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olye...@hk.super.net

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Aug 19, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/19/95
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Don't get lulled into a false sense of security just because you pay $180 for a new pair of highly touted hiking boots. Name and
quality are not necessarily synonomous. New production techniques no longer involve stitching. The likelihood of your soles
remaining attached to your boots is probably a function of the chaos theory.

Hard learned advice. If you will be a day or more from the nearest trailhead, always carry some Shoe Goo and a pair of back up
footwear. Italians may be able to make cars and shoes, but my experience is that they cannot produce a durable boot.

Vasque is highly overrated.

Michael Perine (One highly pissed off backpacker)
Hong Kong


FowlerFoto

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Aug 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/21/95
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A little intelligence in buying boots would go a long way. Vasque makes
several highly durable boots that are STITCHED using a Norwegian welt. I
have worn their Montana boot for more than 25 years. I've gone through
three pairs in that time, each being resoled a minimum of four times each.

Most of the lighter-weight boots ARE glued together; of COURSE they fall
apart! What do you expect? Serious hikers should research their gear
before they buy it. My best advice to hikers: Buy a REAL boot and quit
whining about the weight!
Kim Fowler
Kim Fowler Photography
Boise, Idaho USA
fowle...@aol.com

Carl Christian Nelson

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Aug 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/21/95
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Michael,

It's really not very helpful to just say that "Vasque sucks" or
something comparable to that. If you have a specific incident,
such as "I took my (brand-x), (model-y) boots out on a hike and
the sole fell off within 2 miles of leaving the trailhead,"
*please* relate it so that everyone can know about it, but your
posting benefits no one.

Researching your purchase before buying boots is helpful, as is
knowing proper care techniques. Any boot will fall apart if you
don't take care of them! Knowing what kind of hiking you're
going to do will also play a big part in what you buy.

I've used my Vasque Treks very happily through over 100 miles of
Grand Canyon backpacking, a little on the Appalachian Trail,
caving through chest-deep water, and so on.

You may also want to contact the Vasque company; if it's a defect
in the boot they'll most likely replace it for you.

Carl Nelson
http://www.Nashville.Net/~snarl/personal.html
Inline Skating Page: http://www.Nashville.Net/~inline/


David Paul

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Aug 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/21/95
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olye...@hk.super.net olye...@hk.super.net says...

>
>Don't get lulled into a false sense of security just because you pay $180
(snip)

>footwear. Italians may be able to make cars and shoes, but my experience
is tha
>t they cannot produce a durable boot.
>
>Vasque is highly overrated.
>

My Clarions have never given me any problems and I beat the ____ out of
them! Of course, I only paid about $35 for the previous years models.
Maybe it's only the expensive ones that are poorly made.

I wouldn't use Italian cars as an example of reliable goods either.

F ix
I t
A gain
T ony


Jim & Andi Ferguson

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Aug 21, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/21/95
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You might try sending them back to Vasque. My wife had a pair of
Skywalks fail at the Grand Canyon. These boots had been used hard, but
the failure was unexpected. The store where she bought them sent them
back to Vasque and they were replaced with a new pair. Since she had
already replaced them, the store gave her a credit for the full purchase
price.

I can't wear Vasques because the toe box is too narrow, but the Fabiano
(Italian) boots I wear are on their second sole and the uppers are still
in very good shape.

Jim

Whitney Potter

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Aug 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/22/95
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In article <414tp0$k...@tst.hk.super.net>, olye...@hk.super.net wrote:

> Vasque is highly overrated.
>
> Michael Perine (One highly pissed off backpacker)
> Hong Kong

I completely agree. I'm trying to get them to replace my fourth pair
right now. Flimsy boots, Great service (so far). . .

Kirk Mueller

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Aug 22, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/22/95
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>snip

I have had a pair of Vasque Sundowners since 1990. I've hiked and
hunted in them about 8 times a year for 10 to 30 miles per trip. The
dayhiking/backpacking trips were always on trails. The hunting trips
(twice a year) were almost all bushwacking miles. I initially sealed
them and periodically (at least twice a year) have applied mink oil.
Barring scuff marks they have held up fine. The tread is starting to
wear out though, so I'll be buying a new pair within a year.

--
Kirk Mueller
(310)334-2586
Hughes Aircraft Co., Radar and Communications Sector
El Segundo, CA
--- All comments are strictly my own. ---

Alan

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Aug 23, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/23/95
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fowle...@aol.com (FowlerFoto) wrote:

Gee, thanks for being so nice ! That fellow had a legitimate
complaint, and you really told him, didn't you? Well, for me, you
came off like an AOL, know it all, smartass.


Nord J

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Aug 24, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/24/95
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Another variable in boot disintegration is heat. The glue used to bond
soles to midsoles is often a hot glue that will soften and release if you
get it too warm.

I've used Vasque for years (I live in Minnesota, so I have to--state law,
I think), and have had few problems.

C. Merrill

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Aug 25, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/25/95
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I have used Vasque exclusively. I purchased a low cost pair first to see
if I was going to like them. They held up quite well. However, when my
tent blew away in a 60mph gust my boots were lost along with the tent. I
then purchased a pair of leather Skywalker II. I must say, I was a
little timid about purchasing a full leather boot (worried about weight
and them being too bulky). But after they broke in I can't stop wearing
them. I waterproofed them pretty good and have walked through small
streams and stayed dry.

I recommend them.

Cliff M.


David Paul

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Aug 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/28/95
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CMER...@compuserve.com C. Merrill says...

>
>I have used Vasque exclusively.
>
>I recommend them.
>
>Cliff M.
>

And there you have it, folks. If a person named Merrill only wears Vasques,
then who are we to agrue.


WebWalker

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Aug 28, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/28/95
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j...@luci.ifa.hawaii.edu (Kevin T.C. Jim) wrote:

:>A salesman at a store that sells only Vasques claims that soles
:>separating from the uppers is a problem with many boots with
:>cemented construction. He claimed that a big part of the problem
:>is that the solvent(s) in the boot waterproofing solutions
:>can also dissolve the cement used to hold the sole on. He said
:>that the solvents will seep into the cemented area. His suggestion
:>was to apply the solutions to the boot with the boot upside-down,
:>and to allow the boot to dry that way. He specifically mentioned
:>the Vasque Sundowner as one boot that should be treated that way.

:>We were talking about the silicone-based treatments, by the way.

I own a pair of Vasque Brier GoreTex (all-leather) boots, and I find
them very comfortable, and wear them as often as I can.

I treat them (sparingly) with Nikwax Weatherproofing Wax (it's
British) which is excellent for all leather boots. I think you should
try to avoid the synthetic stuff, sprays and what-have-you, and use
more old-fashioned natural stuff.

I'm not familiar with the Vasque Sundowner, though. Around here only
the Vasque all-leather boots are sold, mostly GoreTex boots (Vasque
Brier and Vasque Alpine). I guess that if the Sundowner is a
cordura/synthetic boot Nikwax wouldn't work....

WebWalker

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Jenney Choi

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Aug 30, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/30/95
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: In article <414tp0$k...@tst.hk.super.net>, olye...@hk.super.net wrote:

: > Vasque is highly overrated.
: >
: > Michael Perine (One highly pissed off backpacker)
: > Hong Kong

IMHO, I think Vasque makes an excellent boot. I had my Vasques given to me
by a friend(they were used). They have stayed together wonderfully and I
only occassionally treat them w/ Biwell. I have yet to get a blister in
them after 3 months in the Rockies. I love the stiffness of them. I love
screeing w/ this boot. I would say that the only drawback is the weight.
I weighed them and each boot is approximately 3.3 lbs. But I wouldn't trade
them for anything though and on some trips I never take them off... well only
to go to bed.

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Erwin Keller

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Aug 31, 1995, 3:00:00 AM8/31/95
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I had a pair of Vasque's (the Trailwalk) that were disintegrating. I contacted Vasque,
they refered me to the local dealer. As the boots were in their 3rd year the
dealer in conjunction with Vasque agree to give me 50 percent credit toward
the purchase of new boots. I thought that was pretty decent.

I suggest you try the same. If you do not have a local dealer, call Vasque customer
service yourself.

Erwin

Ohuigin

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Sep 6, 1995, 3:00:00 AM9/6/95
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I bought cheap clarions which the chemicals, hot h2o, and cement in the
winery i work at ate up. my skywalks are two or three and in reasonable
shape but didn't get to go to work (new job) personally i like scarpa and
please note the skys are made in italy

boadi...@gmail.com

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Jan 2, 2020, 3:41:28 PM1/2/20
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On Monday, August 21, 1995 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, FowlerFoto wrote:
> A little intelligence in buying boots would go a long way. Vasque makes
> several highly durable boots that are STITCHED using a Norwegian welt. I
> have worn their Montana boot for more than 25 years. I've gone through
> three pairs in that time, each being resoled a minimum of four times each.
>
> Most of the lighter-weight boots ARE glued together; of COURSE they fall
> apart! What do you expect? Serious hikers should research their gear
> before they buy it. My best advice to hikers: Buy a REAL boot and quit
> whining about the weight!
> Kim Fowler
> Kim Fowler Photography
> Boise, Idaho USA
> fowle...@aol.com

Wow - when you pay a huge amount of money you expect a decent product. A little intelligence goes a long way when giving advice to other people.
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