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Seam Grip = Aqua Seal ??

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Ken

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Mar 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/12/99
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Are these the same products?

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Gary S.

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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In article <36e94b9b...@news.optonline.net>,
cprst...@optonline.net (Ken) wrote:

> Are these the same products?
>

Not as I am aware.

Seam Grip is used for seam sealing and repairs. It dries to a strong,
clear, rubbery stuff.

Aquaseal (sold by REI as Ultraseal) is a silicone-based paste used for
treating boot leather for water repellance and conditioning.

For leather boots, applying Seam Grip to the stitching and letting it dry,
and then applying Aquaseal, is a commonly suggested combination.

Both are good, but for different uses.
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H. Paul Jacobson

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Gary S. wrote:

> Seam Grip is used for seam sealing and repairs. It dries to a strong,
> clear, rubbery stuff.
>
> Aquaseal (sold by REI as Ultraseal) is a silicone-based paste used for
> treating boot leather for water repellance and conditioning.

There is an adhesive much like (if not the same) SeamGrip called Aquaseal.
It is marketed as an adhesive and seam sealer for neoprene. People on the
paddle group may have a better idea of how they compare. I believe GOOP
is similar, though it may be more viscous. It has the advantage of
coming in larger tubes.

Paul

Lloyd Bowles

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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H. Paul Jacobson wrote in message ...

>
>There is an adhesive much like (if not the same) SeamGrip called Aquaseal.
>It is marketed as an adhesive and seam sealer for neoprene. People on the
>paddle group may have a better idea of how they compare. I believe GOOP
>is similar, though it may be more viscous. It has the advantage of
>coming in larger tubes.


I tried using GOOP once as seam sealer on a tent. It discoloured & turned
brittle with age. I'll stay with Seam Grip.

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gfel...@usa.net

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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Aqua Seal is marketed toward sealing Neoprene and such, and can be
found in diving shops. I read something about outfitters using it to
seal tents and decided to give it a try... That was maybe 6-7 years
ago, and it's done a heck of a job. It's still pliable, and shows no
sign of coming loose. I ran out on my final seam, and used something
like the Kenyon seam sealer to finish - that was flaking loose within a
year. The only problem I saw was that the Aqua Seal didn't soak into
the little web loops at each corner of the tent, and these wicked water
in. Easily resolved with a little of the recoat compound soaked into
the webbing.

I've not used Seam Grip yet, but it appears to be similar consistency
to Aqua Seal, but with a yellow-brown tint where the Aqua Seal drys clear.
I could only find the little (1 oz?) tubes of Aqua Seal at the time. It
took a bunch of those, but the results were worth it.

Gary

H. Paul Jacobson

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Lloyd Bowles wrote:

> I tried using GOOP once as seam sealer on a tent. It discoloured & turned
> brittle with age. I'll stay with Seam Grip.

I wonder if UV caused it to change. They do market a version with UV
inhibitors (for the sports or boating market).

Paul

Bud Kuenzli

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Mar 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/13/99
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well, McNett markets Seam Grip and it's catalyzed by Toluene so...if it
also physically resembles the other then they may well be the same, or
perhaps just similar. Only McNett may know....

In article <36eb353f...@news.optonline.net>,
cprst...@optonline.net (Ken) wrote:

> The Aquaseal I am talking about is a urethane adhesive, accelerated
> with "Cotol" (which I believe is marketese for toluene), looks and
> smells like Seam Grip before and after it dries. It is made by McNett
> in Bellingham, WA. Instructions say to use it on tent seams. Hawked
> primarily to water sports market for repair of neoprene.


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Ken

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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Gary S.

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Mar 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/14/99
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In article
<Pine.OSF.4.05.99031...@saul10.u.washington.edu>, "H.

Paul Jacobson" <hp...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Mar 1999, Gary S. wrote:
> > Seam Grip is used for seam sealing and repairs. It dries to a strong,
> > clear, rubbery stuff.
> > Aquaseal (sold by REI as Ultraseal) is a silicone-based paste used for
> > treating boot leather for water repellance and conditioning.
>
> There is an adhesive much like (if not the same) SeamGrip called Aquaseal.
> It is marketed as an adhesive and seam sealer for neoprene. People on the
> paddle group may have a better idea of how they compare. I believe GOOP
> is similar, though it may be more viscous. It has the advantage of
> coming in larger tubes.
> Paul

Trademark homonyms. I thought the makers would try to avoid that.

As with other adhesives, choosing one that is compatible with your
materials is important. Plastics and rubbers are especially tricky.

Robb McLeod

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Mar 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/15/99
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On Sun, 14 Mar 1999 04:10:34 GMT, cprst...@optonline.net (Ken)
wrote:

>The Aquaseal I am talking about is a urethane adhesive, accelerated
>with "Cotol" (which I believe is marketese for toluene), looks and
>smells like Seam Grip before and after it dries. It is made by McNett
>in Bellingham, WA. Instructions say to use it on tent seams. Hawked
>primarily to water sports market for repair of neoprene.

McNett is the same compony that makes SeamGrip and FreeSole urethane
sealents. They're all identical except for the printing on the tube.
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Ken

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Mar 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/16/99
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Spurred on by the lack of authoritative responses, I called McNett.
It seems that the two products are chemically the same, but Seam Grip
has lower viscosity than Aquaseal. As a result of the lower
viscosity, it lays down with a thinner bead and penetrates better,
making it more suitable for seam sealing. The Aquaseal has more body,
making it more suitable for boat and neoprene repairs. In a pinch,
you could use either to do a repair.
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