Trailered Ultralight

[greg arnold]

Hey Gang:

Does anybody have experience trailering an ultralight on a vacation with the
family? I just wonder how many have actually done it and was it worth the
hassle of removing the wings etc. I'm just curious to know.

Greg

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[sleepy6]

In article <IFJ%8.9695$Og3.2...@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>,
catf...@bellsouth.net says...

I do it twice a year when I go to stay for a week or so at certain
places. It's a real pain to set the trailer up for your partacular
plane but once everthing is set up it's not bad. My setup is an old
construction office trailer with a 24 foot enclosed box after I knocked
out the internal dividing wall. Used ones are for sale fairly cheap
from places that rent them to construction companies. Try Wells Cargo.

It takes about 2 hours to get my Hawk loaded and ready for the road.
Also takes about 2 hours to get it out and ready to fly.

A little planning and it also serves as a camper while at the fly in.
Mine came with electric heat and an air conditioning unit already
installed so I am really well off if I can get power.

[Bubba]

On Wed, 24 Jul 2002 22:01:05 -0500, "greg arnold"
<catf...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>Does anybody have experience trailering an ultralight on a vacation with the
>family? I just wonder how many have actually done it and was it worth the
>hassle of removing the wings etc. I'm just curious to know.

While I haven't finished mine yet, taking off the wings involves 8
bolts on the wing joiner plates, 2 wiring harnesses (16 pin Molex), 2
pushrods and 6 bolts on the struts. The tail comes off with 6 bolts
for the vertical and horizontal stabilizers, 3 pushrods, and 4 bolts
for the bracing wires (assuming the tail needs to come off). Putting
it on a trailer also means that all the luggage can go around the
plane instead of in the car so there's actually more room. I plan on
taking mine with me when we go on our shorter vacations. No way I
could take it on our annual Montana trip since we fly ;)

Steve
Conroe, TX
There is no problem so great that it cannot be
solved by a suitable application of engineering,
horsepower, or light explosives.

[SidWell]

What kind of UL do you fly?

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[Bubba]

On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 01:24:05 GMT, "SidWell" <sid...@itagain.net>
wrote:

>What kind of UL do you fly?

None, yet. Should have it built within a year. Looks something like a
Heath Parasol. Mostly wood with some foam and glass thrown in instead
of the Heath's plywood. Probably a half VW engine.

[Harry Burns]

Steve,

I'm planning a 20 footer for my Wright 1902 glider. My major components are 4
5'x17' wing pannels... the rest is struts, etc. If I had a larger budget, I'd
buy a full-size pick-up truck and a type of camper trailer known as a
toy-hauler. Its built like a camper trailer, only with a drop down rear
door/ramp similar to a utility trailer. The interiors are kinda plain, but
tons of space for wings etc. and a stove, beds, bathroom etc. You might want to
check out the local RV center.

Harry

PS: I'll be the guy pulling the trailer made of roofing tin behind the beat-up
Chevy Cavalier.

[Bubba]

On 29 Jul 2002 04:39:26 GMT, wright19...@aol.comnojunk (Harry
Burns) wrote:

I'm cheap and own (and know how to use) a MIG welder ;) The plan is to
find some box tubing at the scrap yard for the frame, build a trailing
arm suspension with hubs from a late model Camaro or Cavalier to hold
the wheels, and cover it with either aluminum or foam/glass over 1/2"
conduit frames. My fuselage will be 18' long overall and the wings are
12'x5' each. A bit long for a Camaro, but it won't weigh more than
about 600 pounds so I'm not worried. But then I might be selling the
Camaro to buy a truck anyway.

[Peter Vergoossen]

Look at:
http://www.fed-ulm.be/gegevens/div/galeries/belgium/index.htm

My airlpane is folding in 10 min.

Peter Vergoossen , Calypso OO-D54

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[Carmel Roy]

Please can you send me more pictures and details of your great trailer.Any
plans available?

--
Carmel Roy
Pabos QC.Canada
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[Peter Vergoossen]

Hi Carmel,

I have made plans in Autocad,
Can you read that?
I can send it with Winzip.

Peter Vergoossen

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[Bradley Johnston]

Peter, very nice airplanes! Do you know of a web site where I could
find out more about these airplanes?

Thank you,

Bradley Johnston

"Peter Vergoossen" <peter.ve...@hetnet.nl> wrote in message news:<aj2ck7$abc$1...@reader10.wxs.nl>...

[Peter Vergoossen]

Hi Bradley,

There is no web-site.
This airplane is made for local market.
There are 7 single-seaters flying,
The OO-D54 is the first two-seater.
Under construction are 6 two-seater en 1 single seater.
The plane is manufacterd by "Ultracraft"
( Erik Reynders , my flightinstructor)

Greetings from Holland.
Peter Vergoossen

BTW there are pictures from Fly-Inn in Tannheim
http://www.fed-ulm.be/NL/allerlei/galerijen/9tannheim/index.htm

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[Glen Weldon]

Peter...do your wings fold back, or do they completely separate? I want to
modify my quicksilver MX to have detachable or folding wings. I would like
to see what kind of wing detachment or folding hinge you have designed. I
can read AutoCad files. Would you mind sending me details of your
attachment point?

Glen

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[John Hunt]

Glen
Please post a picture to a website we can view when you get your MX's
wings to fold like that. I would love to see it. :~)

jh

[Mark Smith]

John Hunt wrote:
>
> Glen Weldon wrote:
> >
> > Peter...do your wings fold back, or do they completely separate? I want to
> > modify my quicksilver MX to have detachable or folding wings. I would like
> > to see what kind of wing detachment or folding hinge you have designed. I
> > can read AutoCad files. Would you mind sending me details of your
> > attachment point?
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > "Peter Vergoossen" <peter.ve...@hetnet.nl> wrote in message
> > news:aj92dj$8fo$1...@reader13.wxs.nl...

> > >
>

> Glen
> Please post a picture to a website we can view when you get your MX's
> wings to fold like that. I would love to see it. :~)

me too, I built an MX wih removable wing panels, the center 8 feet was
fixed, the outer panels were removable,,

this allowed the tail to stay together since it attaches to the wings,
folding without tail removal isn't possiblble

--

Mark Smith
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1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620 mailto:ma...@trikite.com
1-812-838-6351

[Bradley Johnston]

Peter are these aircraft considered to be in a class like the Canadian
Advanced Ultralight? (544 kg gross and 27km/h stall?) and the American
Sport licence?

Bradley

"Peter Vergoossen" <peter.ve...@hetnet.nl> wrote in message news:<ajr1je$etm$1...@reader06.wxs.nl>...

[Glen Weldon]

I was going to do what you did Mark. I just wanted to see the design Peter
had for his folding wings. I never got a response. I think I'll stick to
the removable wing panels. Question is: How do you add/remove the outer
wing wires from the kingpost? It's in an awkward position!

Thanks....Glen

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[Mark Smith]

Glen Weldon wrote:
>
> I was going to do what you did Mark. I just wanted to see the design Peter
> had for his folding wings. I never got a response. I think I'll stick to
> the removable wing panels. Question is: How do you add/remove the outer
> wing wires from the kingpost? It's in an awkward position!

outer wing panels attached with a separate shackle top and bottom, spars
slid into fixed center section

tail stayed attached, all controls stayed attached except the
spoilers,,,,,,,, one line on each side.

special upper KP fitting with an extra hole 1 inch above the top stock
one,,for the extra shackles,,,,,,,,

reached them with a step ladder for the few times I removed the outer
panels,,,,,,,,

considered some small steps on the tribar assembly, and stand on the
root tube

[Dale Smith]

SidWell wrote:

Pardon my late entry into the discussion, but I just bought a Mitchell B-10
project on eBay at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1852963334 .

I need to trailer it from the S.F. Bay Area to L.A. Fairly quickly ... I have
a week to get it out of it's present home.

Any suggestions gratefully accepted.

Dale Smith

[Glen Weldon]

It looks to me like the whole craft would fit into the back of a U-haul
truck...sideways of course. Am I mistaken?
Man...you got a deal on that plane...didn't you!

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[John Hunt]

Hi Dale,
I think you got a hell of a deal. How do you plan to transport it?
If you will be using an open trailer you will need to protect the
folding wing. I had damage to my A-10 using the factory trailer setup.
You should use foam or blankets to pad between folding and main wing and
strap them together securely. Leave the ailerons and rudders off. On the
A-10 the rudder folded down and was pinned to the main wing when the
wing was folded. Towing from home to airport ( 50 mi. ) was enough to
tear up the rudder hinges. I still have Mitchell documentation. Let me
know if I can be of help. Good Luck!

jh

[Les]

Get a 26' U-haul (deisel), two roles of duct tape, 100' of light rope and a
dozen blankets. Duct tape blankets around anywhere you tie down, to avoid
abrasion.

Don't forget three or four buckets and 20 zip-locks to throw parts into and
mark on the baggies with a sharpie where they came from. If you can, video
or photgraph everything very closely, that you might re-create anything
later without relying on memory.

Les

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[John Hunt]

Might also want to cover the open end of the folded wing that faces
forward into the wind.
jh

[Dale Smith]

Glen Weldon wrote:

> It looks to me like the whole craft would fit into the back of a U-haul
> truck...sideways of course. Am I mistaken?
> Man...you got a deal on that plane...didn't you!

Yes ... I think so also. The former owner/builder had done a couple of
ultralights previously as well as spar repairs to conventional aircraft
(ercoupe). He built it "rugged" to take "back 40" field landings, but he
retired, and moved to another home that did not have the room to take it.
Complete w/ engine, prop, & belt reduction drive that is a/c quality. All that
is lacking is to change out a motor mount, gap seals, instruments & wiring. I
am stoked!

Another dude with one says you can haul it in the back of a pickup truck, so I
am probably gonna go that route.

All good comments and considerations from the group, however. Blankets, foam
and an open end wind cap are all on my priority list.

Thanks,

Dale Smith

[Rex D Hewitt]

If you need to build a trailer for the B-10 you can get some ideas from my
website. I have an A-10 and trailer it every where. I also have a picture
on the website of a B-10 on a trailer.
http://www.mitchellwing.com/more_A10.htm

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