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Anyone have plans for Sky Pup for sale?

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No Quarter

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Jul 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/14/98
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I've been interested in Dan Grunlough's (sp?) page with the Sky Pup
ultralight for quite some time. Beings I work a lumber yard and have access
to all kinds of lumber at a good price, I'd like to try building this thing.
It looks neat and fun. The plans are $70 and I thought that since hundreds
or even thousands of copies of plans have been sold, that someone out there
might have the plans that they bought, kicked around, and left to gather
dust on the shelf. I'm interested in buying an original set of plans and
not a pirated copy. I'm just trying to save a couple bucks in case anyone
wants to cut me a deal.

I also would like the plans for the PM Woodhopper. They are no longer
available and although the woodhopper was a death trap, I've always wanted
plans from a sentimental standpoint.

Thanks for reading.

sil...@beatricene.com

SpdOverAll

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Jul 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/16/98
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Try looking into plans for the Ragwing...I think you will be pleased with
the design.......I am still stdying my plans for the minimax................big
project...have to fix house first............
Staring at the sky in MN

(Leonard D. Wood)

No Quarter

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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I found someone who had a set of plans to sell me for the Sky Pup. I sure
like the looks of this little craft. Even though the lack of ailerons
scares me, I guess engineers know more about aircraft design than I do.
However, I'm open for all kinds of other ideas. I like the Mini-Max but
it's too much time and money for me. I do a net search for the ragwing but
I'd like it if someone can toss a URL my way. Thanks.


skybolt

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Jul 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/17/98
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EPONASAPPR

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Jul 18, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/18/98
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In article <wYxq1.281$Ql2.2...@news2.randori.com>, "No Quarter"
<elas...@beatricene.com> writes:

>I've been interested in Dan Grunlough's (sp?) page with the Sky Pup
>ultralight for quite some time. Beings I work a lumber yard and have access
>to all kinds of lumber at a good price, I'd like to try building this thing.
>It looks neat and fun. The plans are $70 and I thought that since hundreds
>or even thousands of copies of plans have been sold, that someone out there
>might have the plans that they bought, kicked around, and left to gather
>dust on the shelf. I'm interested in buying an original set of plans and
>not a pirated copy. I'm just trying to save a couple bucks in case anyone
>wants to cut me a deal.
>
>

guy here locally has a skypup for sale...... if anyones intrested I can get
the info. Its parked at our fly site.

No Quarter

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Jul 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/19/98
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Thanks to Dave Mills for sending me the plans, newsletters, and the whole
shebang for a deal. I sat down tonight for 3 hours or so and read all the
news letters (there were 28 of them) from 1983 until 1992. I don't know if
more letters have come out or not.

I was astounded at the prices for these little crafts. The engines cost
more than the plane does and the materials that go into the Sky Pup are
cheap (moneywise). People have racked up over 500 hours and here, at 6
years later, Dan Grunloh has damn near a 1000 hours on his plane and it's
still flying great. It seems the #1 problem with the Sky Pup is landing
gear snapping off. It's easy to see why - with it's 2 axis design and
people getting into cross winds - it overloads one wheel and <SNAP> - there
goes your axle. But with some minor mods and better flying skills, it can
be avoided.

I know there are newer, faster, better, spiffier planes one can get into but
they ain't as affordable as the Sky Pup is - I don't want to travel or do
anything other then fly lazily and see the town from above in something I've
made - that is all reward enough in itself.

Overall, it looks like a fun little plane to build and fly.

BTW: What's the number for the guy with the skypup that wants to sell?


No Quarter

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Jul 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/19/98
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rleo...@my-dejanews.com

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Jul 19, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/19/98
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In article <39ns1.1428$iV6.1...@news2.randori.com>,

"No Quarter" <elas...@beatricene.com> wrote:
> Thanks to Dave Mills for sending me the plans, newsletters, and the whole
> shebang for a deal. I sat down tonight for 3 hours or so and read all the
> news letters (there were 28 of them) from 1983 until 1992. I don't know if
> more letters have come out or not.
>
> I was astounded at the prices for these little crafts. The engines cost
> more than the plane does and the materials that go into the Sky Pup are
> cheap (moneywise). People have racked up over 500 hours and here, at 6
> years later, Dan Grunloh has damn near a 1000 hours on his plane and it's
> still flying great. It seems the #1 problem with the Sky Pup is landing
> gear snapping off. It's easy to see why - with it's 2 axis design and
> people getting into cross winds - it overloads one wheel and <SNAP> - there
> goes your axle. But with some minor mods and better flying skills, it can
> be avoided.
>
Saw one once - that solid beam wood axle could probably be improved
fairly easily, or a simple bungee cord suspension on the wood axle
might save a few.

Abq Ray

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Daniel Grunloh

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Jul 20, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/20/98
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In article <39ns1.1428$iV6.1...@news2.randori.com>,
"No Quarter" <elas...@beatricene.com> wrote:
>Thanks to Dave Mills for sending me the plans, newsletters, and the
>whole shebang for a deal. I sat down tonight for 3 hours or so and
>read all the news letters (there were 28 of them) from 1983 until
>1992. I don't know if more letters have come out or not.

There were actually 29 issues. Send me your address and I will send
you the missing newsletter.

>years later, Dan Grunloh has damn near a 1000 hours on his plane and
>it's still flying great.

Actually it's Bob Schafer of Boise Idaho who has 1000 hours on his Sky
Pup. There are a few others in the 700 range but I only have 215
hours on mine over a twelve year period. I did a lot of other stuff
too during that period.

>It seems the #1 problem with the Sky Pup is landing
>gear snapping off. It's easy to see why - with it's 2 axis design
>and people getting into cross winds - it overloads one wheel and


Right. The axle is a one piece solid wooden beam. You have to land
them pretty hard to break it. It might be better if it was laminated.
Most breakages are in the backwards direction due to hitting a hole
or ditch. Crosswind landings will more likely collapse the motocross
bicycle wheel.

The plans call for a maple landing gear which is very strong but not
very flexible. Many have switched to white ash which is springier
and can take more bumps. No one has reported failing the ash gear.
The maple gear doesn't bend very much. You would not want a real
flexible shock system because the tractor prop might strike the
ground on a bounce. I have only 9 inches prop clearance tail down
and FIVE INCHES tail up in a wheel landing. I have never hit the
tips on anything but tall weeds. For comparison the Kolb Ultrastar
(the low engine version) also has only about 5 inches prop clearance
and uses no shocks at all, just the air in the tires.

Everything about airplane design involves compromises.

--------------
Daniel Grunloh (gru...@uiuc.edu)
http://www.staff.uiuc.edu/~grunloh

joe...@gmail.com

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Feb 19, 2017, 9:50:25 PM2/19/17
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On Tuesday, July 14, 1998 at 12:00:00 AM UTC-7, No Quarter wrote:
> I've been interested in Dan Grunlough's (sp?) page with the Sky Pup
> ultralight for quite some time. Beings I work a lumber yard and have access
> to all kinds of lumber at a good price, I'd like to try building this thing.
> It looks neat and fun. The plans are $70 and I thought that since hundreds
> or even thousands of copies of plans have been sold, that someone out there
> might have the plans that they bought, kicked around, and left to gather
> dust on the shelf. I'm interested in buying an original set of plans and
> not a pirated copy. I'm just trying to save a couple bucks in case anyone
> wants to cut me a deal.
>
> I also would like the plans for the PM Woodhopper. They are no longer
> available and although the woodhopper was a death trap, I've always wanted
> plans from a sentimental standpoint.
>
> Thanks for reading.
>
> sil...@beatricene.com

I would also be interested in getting my hands on a set of plans for the sky pup. It just might be what I have been looking for, an in expensive way to get into flying. I have an older 25-30hp engine that I am rebuilding and converting to pointless ignition(aerosport Rockwell LB600 direct drive designed for their rail plane.... based on the JLO Rockwell LB600/2 snowmobile engine). I think that the two would be a good combination together.

thanks,
joe...@gmail.com

william...@gmail.com

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Aug 27, 2018, 7:43:36 PM8/27/18
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Hi,
I’m a student trying to replicate the wings of the Sky Pup. Do you still have the plans and could you share them With me please?
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