Thanks,
Glen
Steve
>Anyone know any good acronyms for the landing checklist?
>I've been trying to think of one for: Mixture, Seat belts, Fuel both,
>Carb heat....but
>MSFC doesn't exactly roll off the tongue (or brain!).
>
>Thanks,
>Glen
Carb Heat Hot
B Brakes off
U Undercarriage Down
M Mixture Rich
P Prop full fine
P (petrol) fuel pump on and adeqaute fuel
H Hatches and Harnesses secure
Carb Heat Off
Must admit I put the prop to full fine on finals, the rest I do downwind. I
do not have a retractable but still go through the motions for gear
Geoff Semler
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MSFC...
How about:
"My Sister Flies Cessnas" .... :-)
Not exactly an acronym, but other mnemonic devices work well sometimes.
Glen, are you my evil twin? If so, you've spelled our name wrong.
Glenn Scherer
Farmersville, TX USA
This isn't exactly for landing but after several approaches where I forgot one
thing or the other I have come up with a new acronym for the approach
checklist.
MAD MARTHA
M - marker beacons, test and on
A - altimeter setting, get it and note affect on minimums
D - DG, check vs. compass
MA - missed approach procedure, review
R - radios, comm and nav, set
T - time, memorize or set on countdown timer time from FAF to MAP
H - heading, final approach course heading, usually twist this on NAV 1
A - altitude, determine and memorize DH or MDA for approach
I have to admit I "borrowed" MARTHA from Sollman and Harris but that became DA
(district attorney?) MARTHA after forgetting about the DG/compass check, and
then MAD MARTHA after forgetting the marker beacon check.
This seems to work for me.
Mark Levin
PP-ASEL
My C150/152 checklist says this:
B Brakes Off
U Undercarriage Fixed Down
M Mixture Rich
F Fuel On and sufficient for go-around/diversion
F Flaps As required
I Instruments Engine Temp. and Press. checked, altimeter set
C Carb. heat Checked and set as required
H Hatches Secure
H Harnesses Secure and fastened
Anyone had trouble with the shouler strap on a C150/152 ?
Ant.
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Anyone know any good acronyms for the landing checklist?
I've been trying to think of one for: Mixture, Seat belts, Fuel both,
Carb heat....but
MSFC doesn't exactly roll off the tongue (or brain!).
Thanks,
Glen
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I use the common Gas Undercarriage Mixture Props Flaps (GUMPF) Maybe
you could add carb Heat and Seatbelts to get GUHMPFS?
Ken
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I thought LCGUMPS was the popular one, pronounced "L. C. Gumps":
Lights
Carb Heat
Gas (pump and tanks)
Undercarriage
Mixture
Prop
Seats
My instructor taught me CGUMPS (or cee-gumps), and I think it's fairly
common. The word itself doesn't make much sense, but it is memorable.
C - Carb heat on
G - Gas on, or both
U - Undercarriage, pump the brakes (in a non-retractable C-152)
M - Mixture rich
P - Prop. This doesn't apply for fixed-pitch propellers but will in
constant-speed props.
S - Seatbelts fastened.
Hope this helps.
Chris
The acronyms i have been taught at all three schools i have trained at is
BUMFFICH (pronounced bumfitch)
B = Brakes (Off)
U = Undercarrage
M = Mixture (Rich)
F = Fuel (Pump on, correct tank selected, sufficient for "go around"
F = Flaps (As required)
I = Instruments (Check QNH or QFE set)
C = Carb Heat (Hot)
H = Hatches and Harnesses (Secured)
I hope this helps!
BUMFFICH???? were did he go to school?
Listen up, Assuming you are going to stay in a 152 then get used to G U M
P
GAS
Undercarige (gear)
Mixture
Prop
you can add "hot GUMP' if you wish for the carb heat. But if you get into
using GUMP now, I will promise you, you won't be one of those complete
idiots that land gear up.
As far as the seatbelt thing, I am only going to say this ONE GODDANM
TIME you had better have that seatbelt on the entire time your but is in
that thing!
Sound a little uptight do I? Damn right I am, you see, I knew a gal here
in the S.W. a while ago, and she was droping of some pax at one airport
only to go back to base just a few miles away. well I guess she was to
cool to have the belt on for that couple of minutes and hit some
turbulance, well it knocked her out and she and the Barron went STRAIGHT
into a backyard of people having a picknic. Get it??? OK.
Hope that helps.
T.M.
ATP CFII
The one I was taught is even worse
BUMFFPICHH
Brakes
Undercarriage
Mixture
Fuel
Flaps
Pitch
Instruments
Carb heat
Hatches
Harnesses
I found it easier to memorise the actions.
Nightjar
I've nothing much to add except this acronym is fairly standard in
in the UK.
Regards.
Steve
I am not comfortable with carb heat being part of the landing checklist.
It rightly belongs in the power control checklist. It also varies
depending on the aircraft in question. Cessnas tend to require carb
heat whenever power is reduced below a certain level and in other cases
(I've had carb ice climbing out at full power in 80 degree weather in a
150), while other aircraft need it less often. Follow the recommendations
in the owner's manual.
> DOES ANY ONE KNO WHAT BLT COKE AND FRIES STAND FOR?
In a greasy spoon diner I would guess that BLT would stand for
Bacon,Lettuce and Tomato.
In a cockpit checklist I would think that BLT is being misumderstood to
mean ELT,
or Emergency Locator Transmitter.
Otherwise I've never heard of this acronym.
mpw
>
> RRKA...@AOL.COM
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You've never heard of it. When I heard it, it was BLT-TM.
Boost pump
Landing Light
Transponder
Time
Mixture.
For just before takeoff.
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My C150/152 checklist says this:
The one I was/am taught: BUMPFOH (bump-foe)
Brakes
Undercarriage
Mags/Master/Mixture
Primer
Fuel
Oil pressure/temp
Hatches/Harnesses
Anyone had trouble with the shouler strap on a C150/152 ?
Yup. I need the seat right back and the sash _always_ comes undone.
And gets in the way when done up :<
Greg.
VH-JSN/XSR 17 hrs.
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elite class of people who know the shibboleths. Ordinary folks know better,
even if they don't know what "shibboleth" means.'' - Larry Wall
Have a mech. put a tie-wrap around the post. It will help
I am a great believer in having everything you might ever need in
the landing checklist. I still religiously include a place in the check
for the undercarriage, despite never having flown anthing except fixed
wheels. Now that I have a wobbly prop, I won't forget to set the
pitch, because it has always been part of my checklist, even with
a fixed prop. As you say, you need to know what the manual
recommends, but I would interpret that as knowing what to
do at each stage of a comprehensive checklist, even if all
you do is to know that you can safely ignore that check.
Nightjar
That makes "LAND", and covers most points. As for seat belts, if you
don't already have them snug, all the acronyms in the world aren't going
to sharpen you up. What's one of the first requirements concerning
passengers at startup? You guessed it, SEATBELTS. They are your
responsibility from the git go. They stay on!
Bill Everett
T.M. (mr...@goodnet.com) wrote:
: Simon Hatch wrote:
: >
: > Glen Shearer wrote:
: > >Anyone know any good acronyms for the landing checklist?
: > >I've been trying to think of one for: Mixture, Seat belts, Fuel both,
: > >Carb heat....but
: > >MSFC doesn't exactly roll off the tongue (or brain!).
: > >
: > Dear Glen
: >
: > The acronyms i have been taught at all three schools i have trained at is
: > BUMFFICH (pronounced bumfitch)
: >
: > B = Brakes (Off)
: > U = Undercarrage
: > M = Mixture (Rich)
: > F = Fuel (Pump on, correct tank selected, sufficient for "go around"
: > F = Flaps (As required)
: > I = Instruments (Check QNH or QFE set)
: > C = Carb Heat (Hot)
: > H = Hatches and Harnesses (Secured)
: >
: > I hope this helps!
: BUMFFICH???? were did he go to school?
: Listen up, Assuming you are going to stay in a 152 then get used to G U M
> Gregory Bond wrote:
> >
> > In article <626341...@anthill.demon.co.uk> Ant Goffart
<a...@anthill.demon.co.uk> writes:
[snip]
> >
> > Anyone had trouble with the shouler strap on a C150/152 ?
> >
> > Yup. I need the seat right back and the sash _always_ comes undone.
> > And gets in the way when done up :<
> >
> > Greg.
> > VH-JSN/XSR 17 hrs.
> > --
> > Gregory Bond <g...@bby.com.au> Burdett Buckeridge & Young Ltd Melbourne
Australia
> > ``Efforts to maintain the "purity" of a language only succeed in
establishing an
> > elite class of people who know the shibboleths. Ordinary folks know
better,
> > even if they don't know what "shibboleth" means.'' - Larry Wall
>
>
> Have a mech. put a tie-wrap around the post. It will help
A lot of folks use tie wraps, and although they appear to work, tie wraps
when used for this purpose are *unairworthy*. The local FSDO, Teterboro
NJ (TEB), goes around to all the local fields every year and grounds any
plane that has a tiewrap around the post of the Cessna seatbelts. Cessna
sells a plastic ring for this purpose which is overpriced and not too easy
to install.
Bruce
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I'm sure that's true, but it's completely assinine. The FBO is now faced
with a plane which is grounded, but which could become airworthy again
with 30 seconds of work with a snips. So they snip off the tie-wrap. And
the shoulder belts are now free to fall off.
They have now convered a safe, un-airworthy aircraft into an unsafe but
airworthy one. Score another victory for the FAA.
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Hippocrates Project, Department of Microbiology, Coles 202
NYU School of Medicine, 550 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016
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