3rd vs. 2nd class medical?
do...@tiac.net
What is the actual difference in the examination itself?
Thanks
Don Paquette
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Matt
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Steven P. McNicoll
>
> What is the actual difference in the examination itself?
>
As I recall, all of the examinations are identical, the differences are in
the standards.
Larry Richardson
differences is vision. 2nd class must be 20/20 for distance. You can wear
glasses/contacts, but it will cause a restriction on Commercial flights (or
at least that is what the AME said0.
Larry
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corrected, each eye, as opposed to 20/40 on third class. After age 50 there
are some add'l eye tests that are done, called phoria testing.
Bob Borucki, MD, S-AME
JerryK
Could you describe these phoria testing and what they check?
jerry
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do...@tiac.net
Thank you Steve, Matt, Larry and Bob...:)
So I guess my eyeglass restriction is no big deal as I can easily see
20/20.
Thanks again!
Don Paquette
PP-ASEL
N9723X
Joe Morris
20/40 near (at both 16 and 32 inches if over age 50) *without* corrective
lenses but can meet them *with* lenses, all that happens is that your medical
certificate will contain a restriction that you must wear the corrective
lenses "while exercising the privileges of an airman certificate." See
FAR 67.203.
This says nothing directly about "commercial flights" although there might
be some other problem that would trigger the "none-of-the-above" restriction
at FAR 67.213(b). Absent any medical condition other than the need for
corrective lenses to meet 67.203, there would be no FAA-imposed restrictions
on the exercise of a commercial pilot's license.
That being said, some employers may choose to require applicants to hold
an aviation medical certificate without any conditions. That certainly
was the case in the past for some airlines; whether such a restriction
today would survive an ADA challenge I don't know.
Joe Morris
"Larry Richardson" <lrich...@iname.com> writes:
>I just completed a 2nd class medical (never had a third class). One of the
>differences is vision. 2nd class must be 20/20 for distance. You can wear
>glasses/contacts, but it will cause a restriction on Commercial flights (or
>at least that is what the AME said0.
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Stan Prevost
examination by my eye doc, cost me more than the flight physical. Eye doc
said half the people who come through his office couldn't pass the initial
screening limits on hyperphoria, etc. If I have to do that every year, I
will give up the second class med, I don't need it for very much.
My understanding is that the major concern is image fusion between the two
eyes, under some circumstances the eyes won't point in the same direction
and the brain has a hard time getting the images together and until it does,
there is no useful vision, just a confused mess. I have temporal
hyperphoria and have experienced the fusion problem a couple of times, not
flying. Closing one eye will temporarily overcome the problem. What
concerns me mostly is flying instruments, looking briefly away from the
panel into a gray nothing where the eyes don't have anything to fix on and
maintain fusion, then looking back at the panel and being unable to get it
together. I have not experienced that, but if I start having a problem with
it, I may have to quit flying instruments.
Stan
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Robert Borucki
Stan gave a great description, however, for 97% of pilots it is a non-issue.
It is the testing on the machine that matches the musical note to the line
or manually, matching the line to the white dot.
Mike O'Malley
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Hmm, thats odd. Is that where they check that both eyes are tracking the
same? If so, then I've had it done on both my 2nd class exams and I'm only
20. Infact, a friend of mine failed his 2nd class for that very item, and
he's only 21.
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> "Robert Borucki" <drl...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Under the age of 50, the difference is distance eyesight. It
>> must be
> 20/20
>> corrected, each eye, as opposed to 20/40 on third class. After
>> age 50
> there
>> are some add'l eye tests that are done, called phoria testing.
>>
>> Bob Borucki, MD, S-AME
>>
>>
>
> Hmm, thats odd. Is that where they check that both eyes are
> tracking the same? If so, then I've had it done on both my 2nd
> class exams and I'm only 20. Infact, a friend of mine failed his
> 2nd class for that very item, and he's only 21.
When I first started my license program in the 70's as an early 20-
something, I got a second class physical and failed the phoria test due
to muscle balance problems. End result was crappy depth perception that
messed me up on landings.
Dave in San Diego
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