PP-SEL / PP-ASEL etc.?

Andy Hardy

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98

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Hi all,

I see license descriptors such as PP-SEL / PP-ASEL from you US guys on
the site... I guess theses are along the lines of the UK PPL(A)
(aeroplane) PPL(M) (microlight) etc...

Can anyone explain what the PP-XXXX designations mean?

Just curious...

Thanks...

Andy

John R. Johnson

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98

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The certificates are:

SP - Student Pilot
PP - Private PIlot
CP - Commercial Pilot
ATP or ATR - Air Transport Pilot

Ratings modify the basic certificate. Some of these are

SEL - Single Engine Land ( assumes Airplane )
ASEL - Airplane, Single Enging Land
MEL - Multi Engine Land ( assumes Airplane )
AMEL - Airplane Multi Engine Land
SES - Single engine Sea
MES - Multi Engine Sea
SMELS - Single, Multi, Engine Land and Sea
IA - Instrument, Airplane. For a mechanic it also
means he holds an Inspection Authorization.

I don't know what abbreviations are current for the rotary wing and balloon
ratings these days.

Instructors are:

CFI - Certified Flight Instructor ( NOT Chief Flight Instructor, it is
comparable to QFI ( Qualified Flight Instructor ) in Britain.

CFIA - Certified Flight Instructor - Airplane
CFII - Certified Flight Instructor - Instrument
MEI - Multi Engine Instructor

It can get pretty confusing. Also, when you add ratings you might have
different certificate priveleges on different ratings. For example,
you could have ATP for Airplane, Single and Multi Engine, with Commercial
priveleges for Hot Air Balloon, Glider, Helicopter, etc.

I hope this helps you figure out some of the brag strings! :-)

John

cu...@us.ibm.com

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98

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In article <350689F0...@nomura.co.uk>,

andy....@nomura.co.uk wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I see license descriptors such as PP-SEL / PP-ASEL from you US guys on
> the site... I guess theses are along the lines of the UK PPL(A)
> (aeroplane) PPL(M) (microlight) etc...
>
> Can anyone explain what the PP-XXXX designations mean?
>
> Just curious...
>
> Thanks...
>

PP-ASEL = Private Pilot - Aircraft Single Engine Land
PP-SEL = ??? Something unofficial :-)

Hugo Cueni
PP-ASEL
> Andy
>
>

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dhs...@ingr.com

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98

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In article <6e6d90$k1r$1...@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,

Actually it is Private Pilot _Airplane_ Single Engine Land. Aircraft is a
little to broad a term.

Dave S.

PilotC150

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Mar 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/11/98

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ASEL and SEL basically mean the same thing (Airplane) Single Engine Land.
There are also ratings such as MEL, (Multi Engine Land) and SES or MES, (Single
Engine Sea and Multi Engine Sea)

Chris Anderson
Student Pilot

Andy Hardy

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Mar 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/12/98

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Thanks for all the replies folks!

That clears it up for me...

Andy

Alun

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98

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In article <350689F0...@nomura.co.uk>, Andy Hardy
<andy....@nomura.co.uk> writes

>Hi all,
>
>I see license descriptors such as PP-SEL / PP-ASEL from you US guys on
>the site... I guess theses are along the lines of the UK PPL(A)
>(aeroplane) PPL(M) (microlight) etc...
>
>Can anyone explain what the PP-XXXX designations mean?
>
>Just curious...
>
>Thanks...
>

>Andy
>

I'm curious as well. Somebody fill us poor Brits in :)
--
Alun

Hattaway

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Mar 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/14/98

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Andy Hardy wrote:
> I see license descriptors such as PP-SEL / PP-ASEL from you US guys on

> the site... Can anyone explain what the PP-XXXX designations mean?

PP = Private Pilot
CP = Commercial Pilot
ATP = Air Transport Pilot

ASEL = Airplane Single Engine Land
AMEL = Airplane Multi Engine Land
AMES = Airplane Multi Engine Sea (and so forth)

IA = Instrument Airplane

CFI = Certificated Flight Instructor
CFII = CFI Instrument
MEI = Multi-engine Instructor

I think the glider people and rotorheads could just use "G" or "H"
somewhere in there.

We don't get licensed to fly, we get certificated. :-)

NJ

Scott Geeding

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Mar 16, 1998, 3:00:00 AM3/16/98

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Hattaway wrote:

>PP = Private Pilot
>CP = Commercial Pilot
>ATP = Air Transport Pilot
>
>ASEL = Airplane Single Engine Land
>AMEL = Airplane Multi Engine Land
>AMES = Airplane Multi Engine Sea (and so forth)
>
>IA = Instrument Airplane
>
>CFI = Certificated Flight Instructor
>CFII = CFI Instrument
>MEI = Multi-engine Instructor

And the CFI abbrev I saw for all those was CFI-AIM for Airplane, Instrument,
Multi-Engine. Not sure if it's "official" but I've seen it quite often, and
use it myself at times.