Discus 2b versus LS-6c

[benhir...@gmail.com]

Which would you buy and why? Everyone probably knows the Discus 2b, but in case you're not familiar with the LS-6c, it has 15m and 17.5m tips, automatic control hookups (unlike the 6a and 6b), and a safety cockipit (unlike the 6a and 6b).

[Paul T]

Very different sailplanes, but....

If you want to seriously compete -the Discus 2B - still competitive in Std

Class.

If you want to fly distance the LS6C - but get one with the 18m tips! Not
competetive in 15/18m class anymore, but has better performance than the
D2.

Either way your lucky to have the choice.

[benhir...@gmail.com]

I'm not planning on racing. I think both of these gliders have enough performance for me, with the LS-6c probably having a slight advantage.

[Paul T]

At 18:52 07 September 2017, benhir...@gmail.com wrote:
>I'm not planning on racing. I think both of these gliders have enough
>performance for me, with the LS-6c probably having a slight advantage.
>

LS6C 18/17.5m has more than a 'slight advantage' over a D2 - take the 6.

[Steve Leonard]

The D2B has a more spacious cockpit than any LS6, so that may come into play if you are a larger person.

[ors...@gmail.com]

Flaps are a real benefit in case of an outlanding. If XC is your aim I would choose LS6.

Carlo

[Dan Daly]

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 3:02:42 AM UTC-4, ors...@gmail.com wrote:
> Flaps are a real benefit in case of an outlanding. If XC is your aim I would choose LS6.
>
> Carlo

LS-6 is subject to DG's ongoing annual 'service contracts' if you want factory parts or support. Details at https://www.dg-flugzeugbau.de/en/maintenance-service-aircraft/service-contract . Resale, in my opinion, would be easier for a non-LS/DG glider if you think you may sell it in a few years.

LS-6 has an SSA handicap of 0.873 (DAeC index 116), Discus 2B 0.915 (DAeC index 108). Each has a reputation for performing well and having no vices.

The trailer, tow-out gear, and avionics would also enter into it; also, the time to the first big inspection (usually 3000 hrs), and the condition of the finish.

Choosing between the two is a first-world problem...

Dan
2D

[krasw]

I don't see much idea comparing std. class ship to older 18m ship. Having flown both, LS has smaller fuselage, heavier ailerons but is gereally nice glider to fly. Ships this old start to require some maintenance. D2 is has bigger, very comfortable cockpit, is more sensitive and nicer to fly. Performance is pretty similar for normal sunday pilot (ridiculous DAeC index difference notwithstanding). Both are modern gliders that always need water ballast to really go well. D2's higher wingloading evens out the advantage of LS's longer span here. I quess the decision would be based on trailer, instruments, paint condition, price etc.

[Charlie M. (UH & 002 owner/pilot)]

To me, big questions are.....
Where do you normally fly?
What is the aircraft mission (contests, XC, thermals, ridge, etc.)
Do you plan to go to other places to fly?
What have you flown before?
What did you like/dislike about them?
Are you a larger pilot, smaller pilot, or in between?

A sailplane that is good for one pilot in one location may not be as good for a different location.

Beyond that, I have not flown either ship but have flown against them. They can do well.

[Retting]

There's a Discus 2b listed on wings-wheels in great shape that you could probably get in the $50s.
That's what the owner told me.
R

[Dennis vreeken]

Ls6- 17c. Rocks , flaps and LS handling . All you need is to fit in it . Flown both .

[Bojack J4]

A true 18m LS6c is rare in USA....maybe 3 imported total.
17.5m version more plentiful, but not numberous.

[Dan Marotta]

Awww...  What's 19.68498 inches?

On 9/11/2017 7:33 AM, Bojack J4 wrote:
> A true 18m LS6c is rare in USA....maybe 3 imported total.
> 17.5m version more plentiful, but not numberous.
>
>
>

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Dan, 5J

[Bojack J4]

The 18m tips have winglets. 17.5 are straight.
Not as sexy..

[Philip van de Donk]

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:23:14 PM UTC+2, benhir...@gmail.com wrote:
> Which would you buy and why? Everyone probably knows the Discus 2b, but in case you're not familiar with the LS-6c, it has 15m and 17.5m tips, automatic control hookups (unlike the 6a and 6b), and a safety cockipit (unlike the 6a and 6b).

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Definitely the LS-6c. I flew both, but liked the LS-6C (with the 17.5m tips) way way more. Very easy to lauch and land, nice in the responses, very easy to fly with few vices. And she's quite a runner with water ballast loaded. The first time you strap in and launch in an LS-6 you say to yourself: "500Km cross country: bring it on!". Rigging/derigging is also much better with the 2 conical bolts. Rougly align the wings and put in the bolts. Ergonomics are also good. After the LS-3/4 the mechanism for operating the landing carriage is the best I ever experienced. Only applying the wheelbrake will need some getting used to as this is done by pressing in both rudder pedals with your heels.

Main drawback is only the fit. The LS-6C is very snug. It's very narrow. But longer pilots do fit in. If the fit is a problem for you don't even look at an LS-7, LS-8 and LS-10 (same fuselage)! The Discus 2B on the other hand is quite roomy....

On the other side:
The Discus 2b is also quite nice, if you don't want to bother with flaps, but it just takes some more time to get used to in order to extract more performance out of her. The wheelbrake is not that good as well as the overall finish of the glider (We in our club say "Scheiss Hirth" instead of Schempp Hirth). I did like it more however than the Discus CS which I also flew. Way more responsive and a roomier cockpit. Also if you fly in competitions on a decent level, the Discus 2b is the better choice (because this glider is still relatively current, the LS-6C is outdated).