Covers what to buy?

[ucanem...@gmail.com]

I am looking at purchasing covers for an 18 meter glider. Last glider I had Jaxida (spelling covers). I would use these covers when say flying out of Minded or in Utah for a week soaring vacation and did not want to disassemble every night.

Which covers to buy? Any useful comments welcomed.

Thanks

[Martin Gregorie]

I use Clouddancer covers from Germany. The price is reasonable, support
very good. I've kept my glider assembled and tied down in these covers
for most of the last two summer seasons and they still look in good shape.
Put it this way: I'll do the same this year.

http://www.clouddancers.de/


--
martin@ | Martin Gregorie
gregorie. | Essex, UK
org |

[Richard]

Clouddancers

Uncuttable All Weather Covers

http://www.craggyaero.com/CloudDancers.htm

Richard
www.craggyaero.com

[Paul Remde]

Hi,

I highly recommend the Jaxida covers. They have a reputation for high
quality with glider pilots from around the world and they are in use by
thousands of glider pilots.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/jaxida.htm

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
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[Paul Remde]

Hi,

Jaxida has improved their product over the years. Jaxida is an extremely
well respected company - and preferred by many glider pilots. You can pay
less, but you can't buy better quality.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Richard" wrote in message
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I have found that the Clouddancers Uncuttable covers are better quality than
the Jaxida Covers and half the price. Many customers in the Western US were
not satisfied with Jaxida they turned brown and brittle in a couple of
years.

Richard

[Jonathan St. Cloud]

Paul, what is the warranty on Jaxida covers. I had a set many moons ago and they did not last well, and they were only used a three or four weeks per year. I too am looking for good covers that will be used maybe three weeks every year, one week at a time.

[Colin Roney]

At 05:36 27 April 2015, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
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Hi
i`ve just bought a set of Kerry covers for less than £500 for my Lak 12
and they seem to be made of good material and fit well.
Colin

[Paul Remde]

Hi Jonathan,

Jaxida covers are supplied with a 2-year warranty. They also offer the
option to purchase and additional 2 year warranty at the time of purchase.

You can see some the their quality details here:
http://www.jaxida-cover.de/cover-en/performance/

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

"Jonathan St. Cloud" wrote in message
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[Steve Pozerskis]

Its all about Vertigo covers for me.

The UV protection is alleged to be better than all their rivals and they
won't turn into a brown crisp after 1 year!

You get for what you pay!

My covers are 6 years old and still look as good as new - used regularly
throughout the season.

I would highly recommend.

[Frank Beythien]

Am 27.04.2015 um 14:49 schrieb Steve Pozerskis:

We are very happy with all weather covers including protection against
hail from

http://www.aeroprotect.de/en/default.php

Very helpful people.

The previous covers from jaxida did not last as long as our current
ones. The DG500M is the whole season on the airfield.

[Simon Waddell]

We have a set of these covers for our Arcus M; spent the whole of last
season in the open - April thru' November, Swiss weather - and still look
good.

Each wing cover is in 4 panels.

Big selling point is the thick honeycomb layer in the top surface to
protect against hail.

Downside is that their English language skills are pretty poor, so write,
don't call...

Simon

[Justin Craig]

I would echo Poz on Vertigo!

http://www.vertigocovers.co.uk/gliders.html

At 12:49 27 April 2015, Steve Pozerskis wrote:
>Its all about Vertigo covers for me.
>
>The UV protection is alleged to be better than all their rivals and the

>won't turn into a brown crisp after 1 year!
>
>You get for what you pay!
>
>My covers are 6 years old and still look as good as new - used regularl

>throughout the season.
>
>I would highly recommend.
>
>
>
>
>
>At 11:44 27 April 2015, Paul Remde wrote:
>>Hi Jonathan,
>>
>>Jaxida covers are supplied with a 2-year warranty. They also offer the
>>option to purchase and additional 2 year warranty at the time o

>purchase.
>>
>>You can see some the their quality details here:
>>http://www.jaxida-cover.de/cover-en/performance/
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Paul Remde
>>Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>>
>>
>>"Jonathan St. Cloud" wrote in message
>>news:74fc3aec-42e6-4400...@googlegroups.com...
>>
>>Paul, what is the warranty on Jaxida covers. I had a set many moons ago
>>and
>>they did not last well, and they were only used a three or four weeks pe
>

>>year. I too am looking for good covers that will be used maybe thre

>weeks
>>
>>every year, one week at a time.
>>
>>On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 8:56:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Remde wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Jaxida has improved their product over the years. Jaxida is a

>extremely
>>> well respected company - and preferred by many glider pilots. You can
>>pay
>>> less, but you can't buy better quality.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Paul Remde
>>> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>>>
>>> "Richard" wrote in message
>>> news:1faffdcb-5645-4c3d...@googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have found that the Clouddancers Uncuttable covers are better qualit
>

>>> than
>>> the Jaxida Covers and half the price. Many customers in the Western U
>

[us...@example.net]

Impressed by your endorsement but would like to be sure which ones you
refer to. Aeroprotect?

GC

[Luke Dale]

I would also recommend Vertigo Covers.

Their product seems to be the ONLY one that is breathable. Having
breathable covers is important to prevent the ingress of condensation.
Other covers trap it in with coated fabrics and try to add ventilation with
netting on the bottom. Where as the Vertigo ones have a breathable outer
fabric which works with the inner liner to wick dry the wings.

Its the only product I would buy and my full set of Vertigo Covers on my
Std Cirrus are fantastic.

I think they do the hail protection as well if you wanted it.

Luke

[John Galloway]

The Vertigo optional hail protection layer feels very shock absorbing
but makes the covers very heavy and bulky. I think it is worth it for a
glider parked outdoors in South Africa or somewhere else prone to
large hailstones but if not and if I ever need another set of covers it
would be Vertigos without the hail protection layer - unless they
come up with a lighter weight version'

At 14:28 28 April 2015, Luke Dale wrote:
>I would also recommend Vertigo Covers.
>
>Their product seems to be the ONLY one that is breathable. Havin

>breathable covers is important to prevent the ingress of
condensation

>Other covers trap it in with coated fabrics and try to add ventilation
wit

>netting on the bottom. Where as the Vertigo ones have a breathable
oute

>fabric which works with the inner liner to wick dry the wings.
>
>Its the only product I would buy and my full set of Vertigo Covers on
m

>Std Cirrus are fantastic.
>
>I think they do the hail protection as well if you wanted it.
>
>Luke
>
>
>At 12:03 28 April 2015, us...@example.net wrote:
>>Impressed by your endorsement but would like to be sure which
ones you
>>refer to. Aeroprotect?
>>
>>GC
>>
>>On 28/04/2015 01:38, Simon Waddell wrote:
>>> We have a set of these covers for our Arcus M; spent the whole
of last
>>> season in the open - April thru' November, Swiss weather - and
stil

>look
>>> good.
>>>
>>> Each wing cover is in 4 panels.
>>>
>>> Big selling point is the thick honeycomb layer in the top surface
to
>>> protect against hail.
>>>
>>> Downside is that their English language skills are pretty poor, s

>>>>>> news:74fc3aec-42e6-4400-a380-
2c5a57...@googlegroups.com...

>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul, what is the warranty on Jaxida covers. I had a set many
moons
>>> ago
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> they did not last well, and they were only used a three or fou

>weeks
>>>> per
>>>>>
>>>>>> year. I too am looking for good covers that will be used mayb

>three
>>>>> weeks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> every year, one week at a time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 8:56:05 PM UTC-7, Paul Remde
wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jaxida has improved their product over the years. Jaxida is
an
>>>>> extremely
>>>>>>> well respected company - and preferred by many glider
pilots. You
>>> can
>>>>>> pay
>>>>>>> less, but you can't buy better quality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul Remde
>>>>>>> Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Richard" wrote in message

>>>>>>> news:1faffdcb-5645-4c3d-a5bd-
23cdff...@googlegroups.com...

>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have found that the Clouddancers Uncuttable covers are
better
>>> quality
>>>>>
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>> the Jaxida Covers and half the price. Many customers in th

[Simon Waddell]

Yes, Aeroprotect.

Simon

At 12:03 28 April 2015, us...@example.net wrote:

[Robert Williams]

I could not recommend Jaxida. Mine lasted around 2 and a half years (rigged

outside approx 6 months per year) before they literally disintegrated. This
in
Scotland, hardly renowned for suffering from UV! Jaxida shrugged off my
complaint.

I bought Vertigo. Less expensive and seemingly bulletproof over 6 years
later. (Well, not literally ;o)

At 11:44 27 April 2015, Paul Remde wrote:

[Frank Beythien]

Am 29.04.2015 um 21:29 schrieb Robert Williams:

The same happened to us, so we changed to aeroprotect and they are still
ok after more than 4 years without purchasing additional warranty.
Frank

[Jonathan St. Cloud]

Anyone have experience with the covers made in China?

[Greg Delp]

I've got a set of the Kerry Covers for an ASW-27 that I'm selling. They are almost new so it's too soon to tell how well they will hold up. That said they look well made and fit great. The last glider I sold had Jaxida covers that like many above said had turned into a disintegrating brown powdery mess.

[Mike Philpott]

At 05:55 30 April 2015, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
>Anyone have experience with the covers made in China?
>

My first choice would be Vertigo as well but I needed lighter duty
covers for occasional summer use only so I bought Kerry Covers
from China for my Ventus. They are cheap and I was worried that
Kerry Covers would not accept credit card payments. I had to pay
by wire transfer. There is no come back if anything goes wrong.

In actual fact, the service was nothing short of impressive! I
ordered them on a Monday and they were delivered directly from
China to the UK on the Thursday of the same week. My covers for
my 17.6 m Ventus cT cost around US$660 as I recall including
shipping. The covers themselves look very much like Jaxidas. I have
used them for a little over a year now and so far so good.

There are a few issues with import duty and obviously this will vary
from country to country. A large part of the cost is for shipping
anyway. A friend at Lasham was travelling on business in China and
was able to collect a set for his Nimbus 4 directly. This saved a lot
of money. He is not that impressed with the quality but he keeps
the Nimbus rigged for most of the time.

Previously, I had a Duo and had Vertigo covers for that. These were
the Rolls Royce of covers and are still in daily use with the new
owners. Still going strong after around seven years. You get what
you pay for. If you want lightweight cheap covers, then Kerry
Covers would do. If you want the best, the it has to be Vertigo.

Hope this helps.

[Tom Kelley #711]

Have Kerry covers. Went to the Kerry cover website and sent them an email. They sent a invoice which I took to my bank for a wire transfer. No problems. Had the covers in 3 days!
Slight assemble was required. The bungee cord has to be cut and clips slipped on(they provide cord and clips). Very easy to do. Just requires a short amount of time after you put the covers on for the first time.
For short overnight tie downs, they are very good. I might add that the time to put them on and off is about equal to derig and rerig in the morning. Only time and money saved is the "taping", but when its in the box overnight is really what I find as being preferred. Others told me this, I didn't listen and now have a set of covers which I will use as a rare maybe.
Others I know are using Kerry covers, they are "pleased", which you can also purchase from several vendors in the USA, if you don't want to do a wire transfer yourself.

Best.#711.

[Sean Fidler]

Tom,

I would say that putting the covers on takes same amount of time as efficient "deriggers" but in the morning I am find that I am ready to tow out in just a few minutes which is great (especially in dry climates). Getting the dew off is a potential issue requiring a squeegee and some patience to let the remaining moisture evaporate before fully taking the covers off (20 minutes). Covers also make it easy to put water in the glider during this evaporation wait. So in general I agree that covers are not a big "time" saver but they do allow me to avoid the process (some find this stressful) of rigging and deriggingnand and taping which is really nice on pleasant lazy evenings. And my experience in the mornings has been the best part of owning covers. Zero stress!

[Andrzej Kobus]

On Thursday, April 30, 2015 at 5:44:44 PM UTC-4, Sean Fidler wrote:
> Tom,
>
> I would say that putting the covers on takes same amount of time as efficient "deriggers" but in the morning I am find that I am ready to tow out in just a few minutes which is great (especially in dry climates). Getting the dew off is a potential issue requiring a squeegee and some patience to let the remaining moisture evaporate before fully taking the covers off (20 minutes). Covers also make it easy to put water in the glider during this evaporation wait. So in general I agree that covers are not a big "time" saver but they do allow me to avoid the process (some find this stressful) of rigging and deriggingnand and taping which is really nice on pleasant lazy evenings. And my experience in the mornings has been the best part of owning covers. Zero stress!

I would only add that you can water up before water pressure goes down... :).

[Soartech]

I just wanted to add to this conversation for future pilots researching covers. You don't need to mail order to China for Kerry covers. I bought mine from Northeast Sailplane in Ohio. (Might not be in business as I can't a website now??)
Secondly, tonight I just did a UV test on the material. I had recently cut out a section to install a clear vinyl window over my solar panel. I placed the removed material over my UV mineral lamp and moved it right next to a mineral that flouresces brilliant green under UV. It remained totally dark, even testing in a dark room! So these covers really do protect your finish from UV light. I am very happy with these covers. They seem to be totally waterproof too, yet breathable via bottom side mesh. Well thought out. And way less $$ than Jaxida.

[Soartech]

>I bought mine from Northeast Sailplane in Ohio.

CORRECTION: That should be Eastern Sailplane (John Murry, who I see is retiring announced June 8.)