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Nick Kennedy
Jul 14, 2019, 12:26:56 PM7/14/19
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Hi All
Just got back from 3 weeks of flying in Ephrata and Nephi.
I have random issues with Flarm targets not showing up on my Oudie.
After several years of perfect functionality, Its not working so well now
So this spring I updated my Flarm Firmware, My Flarm net data base and my Oudie to all the latest versions of software.
Flying this year, Often times targets would not show up even though they were 50' away on the ramp, while most targets that did show up came in at very long range, often 10 miles+ out. Sometimes not though and I'd lose targets at 2-3 miles. Or less. Very random performance.
I lost all the targets I.D. which I used to have.
Does anyone know where my problem lies?
In the latest Flarm update?
In the latest Oudie update?
Is it in the Flarmnet data base update?
I checked my Flarm performance in the range analyzer and It came in as very good.
Some others reported they could see my I.D. but not all.
All ADS-S targets came in OK
Any ideas from the Pro's out there?
Anyone experiencing these problems this season?
Where should I start?
Thanks in advance.
Nick
Just got back from 3 weeks of flying in Ephrata and Nephi.
I have random issues with Flarm targets not showing up on my Oudie.
After several years of perfect functionality, Its not working so well now
So this spring I updated my Flarm Firmware, My Flarm net data base and my Oudie to all the latest versions of software.
Flying this year, Often times targets would not show up even though they were 50' away on the ramp, while most targets that did show up came in at very long range, often 10 miles+ out. Sometimes not though and I'd lose targets at 2-3 miles. Or less. Very random performance.
I lost all the targets I.D. which I used to have.
Does anyone know where my problem lies?
In the latest Flarm update?
In the latest Oudie update?
Is it in the Flarmnet data base update?
I checked my Flarm performance in the range analyzer and It came in as very good.
Some others reported they could see my I.D. but not all.
All ADS-S targets came in OK
Any ideas from the Pro's out there?
Anyone experiencing these problems this season?
Where should I start?
Thanks in advance.
Nick
Dan Marotta
Jul 14, 2019, 12:58:22 PM7/14/19
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I had similar problems recently after installing the latest Flarm
update. I eventually went back to the Flarm configuration tool and
redid my Flarm config file. IIRC, I then had to make some manual
changes to the config file and, after reloading that, everything worked
again. It was very tiresome!
--
Dan, 5J
update. I eventually went back to the Flarm configuration tool and
redid my Flarm config file. IIRC, I then had to make some manual
changes to the config file and, after reloading that, everything worked
again. It was very tiresome!
Dan, 5J
Tim Taylor
Jul 14, 2019, 3:16:53 PM7/14/19
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Dan, please provide details of what you did. I have not had Flarm target ID’s on my Oudie since last August. I also can not add gliders to my buddy list.
Dan Marotta
Jul 14, 2019, 4:37:03 PM7/14/19
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Hi Tim,
Go to the Flarm website and use the configuration tool.
Log in if you have an account, if not, it might be good to do so. Enter data applicable to your ship. If I didn't know any better, I used the defaults. After running the tool, the flarmcfg.txt file was downloaded automatically.
Place the flarmcfg.txt file in the root of an SD card or USB stick whichever is applicable to your device. Insert the device and power on your device. After the configuration is complete, remove the device. This should at least get you started. I found initially that I got alerts on my own glider which was very distracting. The fix was, IIRC, to go back to the default settings in the flarmcfg.txt file.
That should get you started.
Dan
Go to the Flarm website and use the configuration tool.
Log in if you have an account, if not, it might be good to do so. Enter data applicable to your ship. If I didn't know any better, I used the defaults. After running the tool, the flarmcfg.txt file was downloaded automatically.
Place the flarmcfg.txt file in the root of an SD card or USB stick whichever is applicable to your device. Insert the device and power on your device. After the configuration is complete, remove the device. This should at least get you started. I found initially that I got alerts on my own glider which was very distracting. The fix was, IIRC, to go back to the default settings in the flarmcfg.txt file.
That should get you started.
Dan
On 7/14/2019 1:16 PM, Tim Taylor wrote:
Dan, please provide details of what you did. I have not had Flarm target ID’s on my Oudie since last August. I also can not add gliders to my buddy list.
--
Dan, 5J
Dan, 5J
Craig Reinholt
Jul 14, 2019, 5:27:28 PM7/14/19
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You might want to do a factory reset. Multiple threads in the past discuss that.
Here is the basic command. I stole this from JS's post a couple of years ago. I've used it successfully in the past. Remove the # sign to activate the command. After the reset, I used the config tool to redo my config file. Works fine(ish) now.
# Original reset line. Clears PowerFlarm, sets all parameters to default values
# $PFLAC,S,DEF
# Complete factory reset. Use once in a one-line config file.
# $PFLAR,99
Craig
Richard Pfiffner
Jul 14, 2019, 9:06:10 PM7/14/19
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on a clean USB drive and put in the PowerFlarm.
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
Nick Kennedy
Jul 14, 2019, 10:43:38 PM7/14/19
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Craig
The factory reset sounds like a good idea at this point.
I hope that fixes the I.D. problem too.
Should be straightforward.
Richard
Should I put my USB stick in the dishwasher?
You said clean
The factory reset sounds like a good idea at this point.
I hope that fixes the I.D. problem too.
Should be straightforward.
Richard
Should I put my USB stick in the dishwasher?
You said clean
zach yama
Jul 14, 2019, 10:53:22 PM7/14/19
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I have been having almost the same issue and posted about it a few weeks back. I seem to display all flarm targets but only show their ICAO hexidecimal code, not their ID from the flarmnet database. When I ran XC soar on my Oudie with the propper flarmnet data set active, the targets and IDs were displayed perfectly, leading me to believe this is a problem with the current Oudie firmware. I have reached out to Naviter who has not provided a solution. I will reset my FLARM and post my results here.
krasw
Jul 15, 2019, 11:06:12 AM7/15/19
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It's known Oudie bug, no other possibilities than wait for a fix.
George Haeh
Jul 15, 2019, 11:53:44 AM7/15/19
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Latest Oudie update shows IDs.
Current FlarmNet download page:
LXNAV and Naviter
20190715.fln
Copy to RADAR folder
Current FlarmNet download page:
LXNAV and Naviter
20190715.fln
Copy to RADAR folder
Tim Taylor
Jul 15, 2019, 12:04:52 PM7/15/19
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Please post what version of the SeeYou software you are using. I am using 9.15.01 and could not see Flarm ID's last week.
Tim
Richard Pfiffner
Jul 15, 2019, 1:10:38 PM7/15/19
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Bench Testing with two PowerFlarm units and Ultimate running SeeYou PNA 9.15.001.
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
Ramy
Jul 16, 2019, 3:03:22 AM7/16/19
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Contest ID not showing is unlikely an issue with the powerflarm but with your display. Since most complaints are about the Oudie I suspect the issue is with the Oudie, or the flarmnet file (wrong format perhaps)?
I don’t have these issues with latest firmwares neither in Xcsoar nor LX9000. The only contest ID not showing is for those which have yet to enter their info on flarmnet (nearly half the pilots apparently find it too challenging).
Reception vary significant between installations, some show up 5 miles while others less than a mile.
If you see someone consistently from more than 5 miles you most likely see their ADSB signal, not flarm signal (the target will look exactly the same in some displays).
Ramy
I don’t have these issues with latest firmwares neither in Xcsoar nor LX9000. The only contest ID not showing is for those which have yet to enter their info on flarmnet (nearly half the pilots apparently find it too challenging).
Reception vary significant between installations, some show up 5 miles while others less than a mile.
If you see someone consistently from more than 5 miles you most likely see their ADSB signal, not flarm signal (the target will look exactly the same in some displays).
Ramy
George Haeh
Jul 16, 2019, 11:28:37 AM7/16/19
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Running 9.15.001
Settings -> Flarm brings up:
Settings - Radar page
Labels Show box is checked.
The IDs were not showing just before the 9.15 upgrade
Settings -> Flarm brings up:
Settings - Radar page
Labels Show box is checked.
The IDs were not showing just before the 9.15 upgrade
Richard Pfiffner
Jul 16, 2019, 12:12:46 PM7/16/19
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20190715.fln in the Radar Folder of Oudie and PNA
I have on both the Oudie and the SeeYou mobile PNA the settings - Radar Page - Labels Show Box Checked.
Still no Contest ID.
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
moshe....@gmail.com
Jul 16, 2019, 4:41:12 PM7/16/19
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George Haeh
Jul 17, 2019, 11:51:04 AM7/17/19
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I'm using a slightly older.fln file.
My new Core 1.1 is powered by my Air Glide S which is connected to my Oudie with an NMEA adapter.
$PFLAC,S,NMEAOUT1,81
$PFLAC,S,BAUD1,2
$PFLAC,S,NMEAOUT2,81
$PFLAC,S,BAUD2,2
My new Core 1.1 is powered by my Air Glide S which is connected to my Oudie with an NMEA adapter.
$PFLAC,S,NMEAOUT1,81
$PFLAC,S,BAUD1,2
$PFLAC,S,NMEAOUT2,81
$PFLAC,S,BAUD2,2
and...@naviter.com
Jul 24, 2019, 9:01:49 AM7/24/19
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Guys,
thank you very much for this conversation, it helped us pinpoint the problem.
We did have an issue with broken FLN files and when we fixed that we thought that that's "that".
But it turns out that there was another problem with how Power Flarm transmits its ICAO code. We have a new beta version that fixes that. I am very sure that the fix works but it would be incredibly useful if someone who had this problem could test it and report back before we release it:
If you able to test this version please send an email to support at naviter dot com and we'll be glad to give you access to it.
Thanks,
Andrej Kolar
Naviter.com
thank you very much for this conversation, it helped us pinpoint the problem.
We did have an issue with broken FLN files and when we fixed that we thought that that's "that".
But it turns out that there was another problem with how Power Flarm transmits its ICAO code. We have a new beta version that fixes that. I am very sure that the fix works but it would be incredibly useful if someone who had this problem could test it and report back before we release it:
If you able to test this version please send an email to support at naviter dot com and we'll be glad to give you access to it.
Thanks,
Andrej Kolar
Naviter.com
and...@naviter.com
Jul 26, 2019, 10:29:21 AM7/26/19
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Problem fixed. Thank you Tim Taylor and Richard (Craggy Aero) for confirming this with a live test!
You can download the corrected version here:
http://download.naviter.com/oudie_all/UpdateOudie.exe
or wait until after the weekend, when it becomes available through the Naviter Updater.
Along the way, a new feature was added for all those who will participate in the Pan-American championships - Pressing the Pilot Event button will forward this event also to a Flarm / PowerFlarm if connected.
Have a great weekend!
Andrej Kolar
Naviter.com
You can download the corrected version here:
http://download.naviter.com/oudie_all/UpdateOudie.exe
or wait until after the weekend, when it becomes available through the Naviter Updater.
Along the way, a new feature was added for all those who will participate in the Pan-American championships - Pressing the Pilot Event button will forward this event also to a Flarm / PowerFlarm if connected.
Have a great weekend!
Andrej Kolar
Naviter.com
and...@naviter.com
Jul 26, 2019, 10:30:30 AM7/26/19
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Please read this about adding buddies when they are not present in FlarmNET file:
https://www.naviter.com/2018/06/oudie-8-comps-with-your-buddies/
The article focuses on OGN buddies, but it works just the same with regular Flarm targets.
Regards,
Andrej Kolar
Naviter.com
https://www.naviter.com/2018/06/oudie-8-comps-with-your-buddies/
The article focuses on OGN buddies, but it works just the same with regular Flarm targets.
Regards,
Andrej Kolar
Naviter.com
Nick Kennedy
Jul 26, 2019, 12:54:32 PM7/26/19
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Yea Andrej
Thanks for fixing this glitch.
Next week I'm going to pull my plane in the shop and reset my Flarm and reload my confiq and update file, hope it all works.
Thanks for fixing this glitch.
Next week I'm going to pull my plane in the shop and reset my Flarm and reload my confiq and update file, hope it all works.
Nick Kennedy
Jul 29, 2019, 9:37:35 AM7/29/19
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Hello
Did anyone apply Naviters Patch fix to there Oudie this weekend and fly with it?
Did it work?
I downloaded it and it came up as a non updated version of the last update.001
Did anyone apply Naviters Patch fix to there Oudie this weekend and fly with it?
Did it work?
I downloaded it and it came up as a non updated version of the last update.001
Richard Pfiffner
Jul 29, 2019, 10:48:55 AM7/29/19
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The update will be available in the near future.
I have tested beta v 9.16.001 and it shows the Flarm contest IDs
Richard
www.craggyaero.com
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