Converting CUP file to TXT file

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Dec 1, 2010, 7:35:48 AM12/1/10

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I need to convert a Seeyou airspace file .CUP to a TXT file.
Can anyone help?

Paul Remde

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Dec 1, 2010, 7:47:56 AM12/1/10

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Hi,

In what soaring instrument do you want to use the .txt file? Is it a
Cambridge .dat waypoint file (.txt also works for those file types). Or for
Glide Navigator II, or...?

I recommend opening the file in SeeYou or StrePle on the PC and then saving
the waypoints as a Cambridge .dat file.

There are some SeeYou Training videos available in the link below which show
how to import and export waypoint files in SeeYou.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/training.htm#Training-SeeYou See videos #28
and 29.

If you don't have SeeYou then if you e-mail the file to me I can convert it
for you. I would need to know the home airport so I can give it the "h"
attribute in the created waypoint file.

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

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Wojciech Scigala

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Dec 1, 2010, 8:31:41 AM12/1/10

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Użytkownik og napisał:

> I need to convert a Seeyou airspace file .CUP to a TXT file.

SeeYou binary airspace files are CUB. (CUP is for turnpooints).
It's impossible to convert binary CUB back to TXT. Perhaps guys at
Naviter (SeeYou authors) are able to do it, but resulting TXT will be
nicely readible for humans.

--
Wojtuś.net

Wojciech Scigala

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Dec 1, 2010, 9:04:12 AM12/1/10

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Użytkownik og napisał:

> I need to convert a Seeyou airspace file .CUP to a TXT file.
> Can anyone help?

SeeYou binary airspace files are CUB. (CUP is for turnpoints).

It's impossible to convert binary CUB back to TXT. Perhaps guys at

Naviter (SeeYou authors) are able to do it, but resulting TXT won't be

og

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Dec 1, 2010, 10:22:41 AM12/1/10

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On Dec 1, 2:35 pm, og <oscar...@iafrica.com> wrote:
> I need to convert a Seeyou airspace file .CUP to a TXT file.
> Can anyone help?

Thanks Paul

Actually Wojciech is correct, it is a CUB (airspace) file in binary
code. Converting the CUP file is easy.

Best
Oscar

Guy Byars

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Dec 1, 2010, 11:03:34 AM12/1/10

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Pity there is no XML standard for airspace definitions.

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Darryl Ramm

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Dec 1, 2010, 12:30:55 PM12/1/10

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How would that help? The reason Naviter obfuscate their own CUB files
was (still is?) due to licensing restrictions from some airspace data
providers. In locations where this data is provided to Naviter by
third parties without this licensing restriction then maybe it is
already available in OpenAir or TNP format elsewhere.

Darryl

Peter Wyld

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Dec 1, 2010, 12:30:39 PM12/1/10

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At 16:25 01 December 2010, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:
>X-no-archive: yes
>In article , Guy Byars writes
>>On Dec 1, 10:22 am, og wrote:

>>> On Dec 1, 2:35 pm, og wrote:
>>>
>>> > I need to convert a Seeyou airspace file .CUP to a TXT file.
>>> > Can anyone help?
>>>
>>> Thanks Paul
>>>
>>> Actually Wojciech is correct, it is a CUB (airspace) file in binary
>>> code. Converting the CUP file is easy.
>>>
>>> Best
>>> Oscar
>>
>>
>>Pity there is no XML standard for airspace definitions.
>>

>Perhaps, but ten years ago IGC set such a standard for Waypoint files
>(see http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/wpformat.asp), and guess how many
>Flight Recorder/Software manufacturers use it.
>
>That's right, Zero.
>--
>Tim Newport-Peace t...@spsys.demon.co.uk
>
>"Indecision is the Key to Flexibility."
>

. but happily, waypoint files are generally easily converted to almost
any other format, since they are usually plain text.

If only all airspace files were that simple (Winpilot and TNP format
already are of course).

While we are on the subject, does anyone know how to generate or edit the
airspace files for Apic ? (rest of the world, not for the USA)

thanks.

Andrej Kolar

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Dec 2, 2010, 6:55:19 PM12/2/10

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Oscar,

which airspace file are we talking about?

it is true that CUB is encrypted because we were not supposed to give
away the source data but that's years ago. CUB survived, but the
reason for it did not.

Any airspace created in the last 5-7 years is available in TXT format
somewhere.

Andrej Kolar
--
glider pilots use
http://www.naviter.com/

On 1 dec., 18:30, Peter Wyld <pw...@cix.co.uk> wrote:
> At 16:25 01 December 2010, Tim Newport-Peace wrote:
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> >X-no-archive: yes
> >In article , Guy Byars writes
> >>On Dec 1, 10:22 am, og wrote:
> >>> On Dec 1, 2:35 pm, og wrote:
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> >>> > I need to convert a Seeyou airspace file .CUP to a TXT file.
> >>> > Can anyone help?
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> >>> Thanks Paul
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> >>> Actually Wojciech is correct, it is a CUB (airspace) file in binary
> >>> code. Converting the CUP file is easy.
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> >>> Best
> >>> Oscar
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> >>Pity there is no XML standard for airspace definitions.
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> >Perhaps, but ten years ago IGC set such a standard for Waypoint files

> >(seehttp://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/wpformat.asp), and guess how many