DG300 vs Discus
James Scott
DG300. 3 Q's1) How close are they to a Discus2) Are they better than an LS4?3) Do the wingtips make any differenceThanks...(anything I forgot to ask?)James
Marc Ramsey
> I can't afford a Discus so am thinking of buying a DG300.
> Do the wingtips make any differenceThanks...(anything I forgot to ask?)James
I owned a DG303 Acro for about 5 years, and flew it in a few contests.
Performance is quite comparable to a Discus 1 at the same wing loading,
I had no problem outclimbing them, or keeping up at 100+ knots (however,
a Discus 2 could walk away from me at anything over 80 knots). A DG303
will easily outrun an LS4. I had winglets and regular tips, handling with
the winglets was nicer, thermalling a bit easier. The cockpit is quite
comfortable, visibility incredible, build quality excellent. Rigging can
be a bit of a pain (automatic torque tube hookups that always seem to be
out of position). The one area where I think the Discus 1 wins is handling,
the DG is good, but the Discus is a step beyond...
Marc
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Janusz Kesik
glider and it is beating DG-300, not to mention LS-4 which should be
compared with Jantar Standard 2/3
There's one SZD-55 for sale in Georgia actually.
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Aero Club of Czestochowa, Poland
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"James Scott" <REMOVE_TO_...@steveisfifty.com> wrote in message
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> I can't afford a Discus so am thinking of... <cut>
MikeYankee
Loaded with water, it is awesome on the ridge.
One thing it doesn't have is light controls, particularly the ailerons. The
ship climbs well, but you have to fly it rather mechanically; it doesn't "talk
to you" like the Discus, my old Standard Cirrus, or a lot of other ships.
The DG's are indeed a terrific value. They are solidly built, comfortable and
safe to fly.
I like having a 5" wheel and a Tost drum brake that really works. The
pneumatic tailwheel is also a nice feature.
The spoilers are excellent and very short landings are possible. I would
prefer the wheelbrake control not be on the spoiler handle, however.
The underwing blowholes are a pain in the ass, but important to keep clean.
Takes about two hours once a year using welder's tip files and very low
pressure (~ 20 psi) compressed air.
I fly regularly with a friend in an LS-4. The two ships climb similarly. In
the low-to-mid cruising range (60-75 KIAS) he is usually a tad better than me
in the same air, but above 80 KIAS the DG is better.
Feel free to contact me for more info.
Wallace Berry
<jant...@interia.pl> wrote:
> Can't afford Discus? Then go for SZD-55 it's a real competitor for this
> glider and it is beating DG-300, not to mention LS-4 which should be
> compared with Jantar Standard 2/3
>
> There's one SZD-55 for sale in Georgia actually.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
Last time I saw it, the SZD in Georgia was in fine condition. I know
the owner. He is careful and meticulous. I think it would be a great
ship.
jbszee
DG-300 and DG-303?????
-Jim
ChrisH966
designed to improve the glide at higher airspeeds.
They have not published a revised polar for the 303.
The data plate in my DG303 has DG300 on it.
They also come with factory winglets.
Chris
Edward Foxon
comps in both. The DG 300 has a far more comfortable
cockpit with more space than the Discus for me(I'm
6' 1'). The Discus has a slight performance advantage
and is easier to fly if you are new to glass, however
I find that the turning cordination is slightly trickier
to get spot on in the Discus. In the typical competiton
speed range of 70-90kts the discus has a definate advantage
and handles the water better in the climb. The main
thing is to try them both as they 'feel' very different.
The DG has a parallelogram stick which moves back and
forward in the upright position, and has a stick push
button trim which is nice unlike the conventional controls
on the Discus.
Rigging on the discus is easier and lighter, and I
haven't managed to injure myself with it unlike the
DG where I lost some blood removing the wing pin from
a stiff retaining bolt.
As for the LS4 I have only flown one in spain for about
20hours and found it the nicest to fly of the three.
Excellent comfort, controls and handling, but I don't
know if that impression was just due to the excellent
soaring conditions there. Whichever you choose you
will enjoy it! ( For my money I would go for an LS4
or DG for value for money or Discus for performance)
Ed
P.S. I belive the SZD factory has shut down so getting
parts for a 55 may be trick in the future and everyone
I've spoken to who owned one was not overlly impressed
John Cochrane
about the same, and varies widely depending on age, options, gel coat,
instruments etc. the DG is a fine glider, but if you want a discus, buy a
discus. Mine for instance (which just happens to be for sale!)
John Cochrane
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Edward Foxon
DG 300(not 303) is about(from what I've seen advertised)
£20,000 and a Discus tends to be nearer £25,000+ these
are not based on statistics or anything just what I've
seen and as a poor student £5000 is a big difference!
Ed
At 22:48 20 March 2002, John Cochrane wrote:
>What makes you think a DG300 is any cheaper than a
>discus? The price seems
>about the same, and varies widely depending on age,
>options, gel coat,
>instruments etc. the DG is a fine glider, but if you
>want a discus, buy a
>discus. Mine for instance (which just happens to be
>for sale!)
>
>John Cochrane
>
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Nick Gilbert
> P.S. I belive the SZD factory has shut down so getting
> parts for a 55 may be trick in the future and everyone
> I've spoken to who owned one was not overlly impressed
Not overly impressed with what? The fact that the factory has shut
down or the sailplane itself?
Nick.
sz...@bigpond.com
Janusz Kesik
continues supplying parts for SZD gliders, provides AD support, and full
range of repair service.
Best regards,
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Janusz Kesik
Aero Club of Czestochowa, Poland
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