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John Whiting

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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Does anybody know any gliding sites in Korea? I will be in Soeul at the
end of April and wondered if I could fly there?

Cheers

John Whiting
Discus H20 Shenington GC UK


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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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In article <36F61774...@bham.ac.uk>,

John Whiting <j.l.w...@bham.ac.uk> wrote:
> Does anybody know any gliding sites in Korea? I will be in Soeul at the
> end of April and wondered if I could fly there?
>

Hi, If you can find Joe Bennis, he should have information. He gave
instruction in Korea. Gus

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Donald Ingraham

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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John Whiting wrote:
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> Does anybody know any gliding sites in Korea? I will be in Soeul at the
> end of April and wondered if I could fly there?

John,
I once took one of my Korean students (in Minnesota for a month of
training)
down to the glider port for a taste of soaring and American hospitality.
We both had a great time. On the drive home I explained how this
wonderful
sport could be enjoyed rather inexpensively. He shook his head and told
me
that privately owned planes, including gliders, were not allowed in
Korea.
He made it sound like their airspace was for commercial and military use
only. (hmmmm, nope...since we don't sell Cray computers to the North, he
must have been from the South...)

Anyone know if this is true?

Don

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todd michael prine

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Mar 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/22/99
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Yeah, now that I think about it...US charts are full of airways and class
b,c,d,e, and g airspace sparsely intermingled with a handfull of special
use (read military) airspace. Korean charts are noticeably inverted in
this respect. MOA, Alert, Restricted area's with a few airways thrown in
there. Oh, can't forget that *big* Prohibited area to the north of it
all.
Todd

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Billevelyn

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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>Does anybody know any gliding sites in Korea? I will be in Soeul at the
>end of April and wondered if I could fly there?

I inquired a few months back with some friends in Korea. There is a gliding
operation just east of Seoul, but it is for student training - i.e. University
students studying aeronautical engineering. I've yet to find a commercial
operation, that would suit your needs.


Bill Evelyn LS3A, WLE

David Brunner

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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Anyone tried doing an AltaVista search??

I used +Korea +Gliding

and got the Korea Gliding Association Home Page http://www.kpga.or.kr

May be worth a look. 3655 other references.. Has Korean and English too

We have the web, lets use it!!!!

Dave (N126D)


Chris Reed

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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In article <Pine.SOL.3.96.990322...@ux9.cso.uiuc.edu>,
pr...@students.uiuc.edu says...

>
>Yeah, now that I think about it...US charts are full of airways and
class
>b,c,d,e, and g airspace sparsely intermingled with a handfull of
special
>use (read military) airspace. Korean charts are noticeably inverted in
>this respect. MOA, Alert, Restricted area's with a few airways thrown
in
>there. Oh, can't forget that *big* Prohibited area to the north of it
>all.
>Todd
>
>s
>
I flew into Seoul on an airliner a couple of years ago, and because I'd
just started gliding i asked to visit the flight deck. The flight crew
showed me the chart for Seoul - just north of the city there are two
concentric cirlcles marked. Apparently they surround a N. Korean
military site - the warning if you enter the outer ring is that they
fire at you, while in the inner rign they just shoot you down with no
warning. In the circumstances, I'd want to fly gliders well south of
Seoul.

By the way, looking down on Korea it appeared to be all mountains, which
suggests that serious short field landing technique prctice might be a
good idea.

Donald Ingraham

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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David,
Actually, you found a Korean PARAgliding Club whose "English"
link connects you to an "Under Construction" notice. There seems
to be a lot of paragliding in Korea. The page claims 15,000
members. However, I have found no soaring activities with any
of my searches...
+Korea +soaring
+Korea +glider(s)
+Korea +sailplane
?

Don

David Brunner

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Mar 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/23/99
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Hmmm... sorry, I stand corrected, I only did a quick search before work,
however, I have found an address for the FAI branch in Korea, maybe that
will make up for my earlier goof :-)

Dave (N126D)

CENTRAL AERONAUTICAL ASSOCIATION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF
KOREA (PRK)
Association Aéronautique Centrale de la République Démocratique Populaire de
Corée

Munsindong 2, Dongdaiwon District
PYONGYANG
Korea (People's Dem. Rep.)

Telephone: +850 (3) 27 98 or 53 98
Telefax: +850 (2) 3814 403
Telex: 5472 KP

President : Mun Jong Uk
Secretary General : Il Jong Gu

Billevelyn

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Mar 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/24/99
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>Hmmm... sorry, I stand corrected,

WARNING: If you try to contact these people of fly anywhere near Pyongyang,
your mother will be crying for years.

Pyongyang is in the North, and doubt if they would appreciate a yank, or anyone
else outside the party mechanism gliding north of the 38th parellel. This is
not another correction, but a warning not to try gliding or contacting this
address.

>CENTRAL AERONAUTICAL ASSOCIATION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF
>KOREA (PRK)
>Association Aéronautique Centrale de la République Démocratique Populaire de
>Corée
>
>Munsindong 2, Dongdaiwon District
>PYONGYANG
>Korea (People's Dem. Rep.)
>
>Telephone: +850 (3) 27 98 or 53 98
>Telefax: +850 (2) 3814 403
>Telex: 5472 KP
>
>President : Mun Jong Uk
>Secretary General : Il Jong Gu


Bill Evelyn LS3A, WLE

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Mar 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/27/99
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In article <36F61774...@bham.ac.uk>,
John Whiting <j.l.w...@bham.ac.uk> wrote:
> I've spent months in Taejon, about 2-hrs south of Seoul. Been there both

winter and summer and have gazed hopefully at faint cumulus that rarely show
in the hazy skies. Have wondered, also, whether soaring in Korea is
possible. I think the answer is "no," for there are essentially zero
off-field landing sites. Most likely place would be along a rocky stream-bed
with 100% chance of breaking something. The terraine is 80% hills (up to
~1500 meters high) and only 20% flat land, mostly in the western portions of
Korea. EVERY flat piece of land is cultivated for rice, usually in small,
irregular shapes, surrounded by a earthen dike. During April, these fields
will all be flooded for spring planting. The mountainous terraine is
forrested, and looks the same in all directions; getting disoriented is a
strong possibility. I've seen very few, like almost zero, private
recreational aircraft in Korea, and zero gliders.

The area around Seoul doesn't look inviting to gliders; landing at Kimpo in a
glider would be exciting, to say the least. Best you speak Han-gul if you do.

Virgil

Uwe Beger

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Mar 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/28/99
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On 24 Mar 1999 09:19:55 GMT, bille...@aol.com (Billevelyn) wrote:

>>Hmmm... sorry, I stand corrected,
>
>WARNING: If you try to contact these people of fly anywhere near Pyongyang,
>your mother will be crying for years.
>
>Pyongyang is in the North, and doubt if they would appreciate a yank, or anyone
>else outside the party mechanism gliding north of the 38th parellel. This is
>not another correction, but a warning not to try gliding or contacting this
>address.

Why not? I was born in the German Democratic Republic and learned
flying a glider there starting 1974. I became an instructor '83 with
an age of 23. We had contests there like in other developed countries.
I also participated in the last 3 GDR championchips up to '89. And
yes, there were also special restrictions there. It's not worth to
discuss them, because they have passed by.
Actual I still have my licenses and I'm responsible for the education
in my club.
I found that glider pilots around the world are able and intelligent
enough to deal with different political ideas.
I would say that having the same hobby could help to decrease other
discrepancies.

But: To be honest, I have no experience with the north korean glider
assoc. May be they have actual other problems than to deal with yanks?

Many happy landings, Uwe.
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Billevelyn

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Mar 29, 1999, 3:00:00 AM3/29/99
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Uwe Beger writes:

>Why not? I was born in the German >Democratic Republic ...

Sorry to hear that Uwe. At least your no longer living in the German
Democratic Republic. You a very lucky person.


Bill Evelyn LS3A, WLE

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