Monerai P Self Launching Sailplane

[marc silverman]

This is not a low time ship or anytime ship.It was not a succesful design.Thats why
you don't see them flying.Don't buy it. Marc Silverman WV

MIKEB1835 wrote:

> Can anyone give me some info about the Monerai P. I am a low time glider pilot
> who is interested in purchasing one, but need to know about flight
> characteristics.
> They look nice but how do they fly. It is extremely light in weight, what
> does this mean to the pilot. Thanx

[MIKEB1835]

[Ping Hansen]

On Tue, 18 Aug 1998 22:55:25 +0900, marc silverman
<mar...@westworld.com> wrote:

Contact the Australian Homebuilt Sailplane Ass. I don't remember the
URL to their page offhand, but there is a link on
http://home1.inet.tele.dk/ping/flight/homesail.html . They have
several Monerais and will be able to tell you more.
Ping.

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[Michael A. Pilla]

While I have no first hand pilot experience, I have first hand ground observation
experience and know the owner of one; he has stopped flying it and he was a very good
glider pilot and CFI-G.

The ruddervators can stall if you are flaring (back elevator) and using rudder at the
same time. The stall/unstall oscillation looks "interesting" (from the ground!)

I concur with Marc's comments; it is *not* a low-time ship. The pilot/owner of the
local ship I referred to, above, is designing a conventional "tail". Won't fly it
until he is successful.

Michael Pilla

marc silverman wrote:

> This is not a low time ship or anytime ship.It was not a succesful design.Thats why
> you don't see them flying.Don't buy it. Marc Silverman WV
>

[Tim W Mara]

Michael A. Pilla wrote in message <35DC7F23...@mitre.org>...

>While I have no first hand pilot experience, I have first hand ground
observation
>experience and know the owner of one; he has stopped flying it and he was a
very good
>glider pilot and CFI-G.

as a one time builder (a long time ago) and a test pilot for a Monerai
builder (See Soaring Magazine December 1986 issue) and as a good friend of a
strong advocate of the Monerai who was eventually killed in his, I can only
say, "If you value your life, stay far away from this design"...
The Monerai seems attractive to new pilots as it promises good performance
for the $$ but that is very misleading.....I just recently turned down an
opportunity to buy a Monerai (all instrument ect removed by a wise owner)
for $500.00. I rather of wish I had bought it to keep it out of the hands of
someone unsuspecting who might be lured but the cost.......and besides, it
might have made a nice wind "T"....
tim

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This is a great glider I was one of the first to complete building it. it is a sensitive plane fly a 1-26 sail plane will help greatly or do an auto tow the plane does exactly as advertised I flew it for 3 years never had a problem but I did fly similar planes to get used to its characeristics. I urge anyone who has one or planning to buy please contact me at 417-848-5026 this is a great plane the power pod is so-so had some issues with it

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[Scott Williams]

I once saw a capable and skilled pilot fly a monerai as a pure glider. On his first flight in it, I thought his wife and child would be witness to his death, as they were at the airport that day.
he reported later that he could only turn left, and could only fly it level with full side stick right.
I think the price (cheap) was the draw for him.
He was very lucky to survive.
YMMV
Scott.

[Dave Nadler]

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 4:32:12 PM UTC-5, Scott Williams wrote:
> I once saw a capable and skilled pilot fly a monerai as a pure glider.
> On his first flight in it, I thought his wife and child would be witness
> to his death, as they were at the airport that day.
> he reported later that he could only turn left, and could only fly it level
> with full side stick right.

I witnessed a Monerai crash, where the glider had been improperly rebuilt
after a prior crash. Another pilot rushing to the crash scene drove over the
crashed pilot's son's foot, but that was the only injury that day.
Can't make this stuff up...

ANY glider built improperly is a hazard!

http://www.nadler.com/public/1995_Flying_the_Monerai.html

See ya, Dave

[Tony]

that story about Dave Nadler flying the Monerai is probably the best gift the Monerai has given to the sport of soaring...

[Eric Greenwell]

Base on your article, I would judge a Monerai as "very unsuitable" for the
original poster, and that he would be much safer buying factory-built ship that
has a good reputation for easy handling in all situations. If he were in my club,
I would volunteer to help him find a glider that does not has several caveats
attached to it, such as a Ka-6.


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http://soaringsafety.org/prevention/Guide-to-transponders-in-sailplanes-2014A.pdf

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On Tuesday, August 18, 1998 at 3:00:00 AM UTC-4, marc silverman wrote:
> This is not a low time ship or anytime ship.It was not a succesful design.Thats why
> you don't see them flying.Don't buy it. Marc Silverman WV
>
> MIKEB1835 wrote:
>
> > Can anyone give me some info about the Monerai P. I am a low time glider pilot
> > who is interested in purchasing one, but need to know about flight
> > characteristics.
> > They look nice but how do they fly. It is extremely light in weight, what
> > does this mean to the pilot. Thanx

I flew one for a few years(N8530L).. I was told the it had poor spin characteristics.. so I never spun it.. It is a Pod and Boom type construction.. which allowed NO real fuselage to slip the aircraft.. so I see how getting out of a spin is might be difficult... It was really difficult to assemble the wings.. the alignment was not perfect.. It had a Ballistic Parachute.. which could carry the entire aircraft to the ground. The 28 HP engine was never used by me.. the last I heard it was hanging in a Museum in Texas. J.F Butrick