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Piper Cherokee Towplane?

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Burt Compton

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Apr 1, 2002, 5:20:30 PM4/1/02
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I hear that someone is having sucess with Piper Cherokee 140 / 180 HP
towplanes. I'd like to know more, as I need another towplane that doesn't
require a pilot w/ 100 hours tailwheel time. Thanks,

Burt Compton
"Miami Gliders" in winter, "Marfa Soaring" in summer
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Bruce Hoult

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Apr 1, 2002, 6:14:20 PM4/1/02
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In article <20020401172030...@mb-mp.aol.com>,
fbco...@aol.com (Burt Compton) wrote:

> I hear that someone is having sucess with Piper Cherokee 140 / 180 HP
> towplanes. I'd like to know more, as I need another towplane that doesn't
> require a pilot w/ 100 hours tailwheel time. Thanks,

At Omarama, NZ, they're using a Dakota. I think that's a Cherokee with
a 235 HP engine? It tows great, so 180 HP is probably OK too?

-- Bruce

Bill Daniels

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Apr 1, 2002, 7:23:31 PM4/1/02
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"Bruce Hoult" <br...@hoult.org> wrote in message
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I have heard of an operation that used an old "Hershey Bar Wing" Cherokee
180 as a tug. The operator was happy with the results. I have always
thought that the PA-28 series was an overlooked option for a tug.

If you check with insurance agents, you will find the PA-28 series is their
favorite insured. Pilots find it difficult to break them. Three fat 600x6
tires on Oleo struts handle rough fields well.

I owned an Archer that is the successor to the Cherokee 180. The main
difference is that the Archer wing is a double taper planform of greater
span. It is a docile little workhorse that will do a lot of jobs, towing
among them. All of the PA-28 family has a reputation for easy and cheap
maintenance. Mine was certainly inexpensive to maintain. The all metal
airframe is extremely durable.

The Dakota is the same airframe as the Archer but with a 235 HP Lycoming
O-540 and a constant speed propeller. That would be my choice. A lightly
loaded Dakota will climb like a rocket at 60 Knots.

The key to getting good performance out of either is to insure that they are
lightly loaded. I would strip all unnecessary weight out of it such as
seats and interior fittings not strictly necessary for towing duty. I might
even strip the paint to save another 50 or so pounds.

Bill Daniels

Rob

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Apr 1, 2002, 11:56:52 PM4/1/02
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I have towed L23 Blaniks in a Cherokee 235 (Dakota in later years) and it
worked good off of pavement and grass.

Have you thought about a Cessna 182?

I would think the hotter weather in Florida might tax a Cherokee 180 a bit
much.


--
Rob

rclu...@cinci.rr.com


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BTIZ

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Apr 2, 2002, 1:40:39 AM4/2/02
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C-182s make good tow planes, but watch the engine temps, long slow climbs
keep it hot out here.. Tonopah NV used to tow with a C-182, they didn't do a
lot of daily tows, so it was not so hard on the engine.

60-65knt tows for 1-26s or 70knt tows for glass.. with about 10degree flaps
on the C182

TZ

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Buck Wild

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Apr 7, 2002, 11:05:30 PM4/7/02
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"BTIZ" <bnosp...@lvcm.com> wrote in message news:<uaikaqm...@corp.supernews.com>...
Check with Drew at Hollister Gliding Club (NorCal) They are using 235 Cherokees
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