Ron Sands "Primary Glider, 1929"
William Wixon
"Ron Sands Primary Glider, 1929"
have any of you guys built one, do you know anyone or heard of anyone
who has built one?
Mike Lund
glider are in there and its only about $5. Better yet, buy the complete set
(1929-1933) at about $25- there's plans for about a dozen-18 different low
power designs, as well as design info and "how to fly" chapters. Even if you
never build any of the designs, they make great reading:
Project Listing
1929-Heath Super Parasol
Russel-Henderson Light Monoplane
Easy to build Glider
1930-Heath Baby Bullet
Lincoln Sport Bi-plane
Northrop Glider
Alco Sport Plane
1931-Longster
Georgias Special
M-M Secondary Glider
Driggs Dart
Church Mid-Wing
1932- Pietenpol Aircramper
Powell "P-H" Racer
Ramsey "Flying Bathtub"
1933-Gere Sport Bi-Plane
Pietenpol Sky Scout
Henderson Longster
John Smith
John Smith
Wayne Paul
Order via the web, http://www.eaa.org/
John Smith wrote in message <90946424...@neptune.uniserve.ca>...
William Wixon
question to info...@eaa.org i got a reply, amazingly, the next
day.
Dear Bill: To get the 5 Flying & Glider manuals,call 1-800-843-3612 with
a crdit card and order same. They are a great set of books.
just thought i'd post this, i was wondering how to order them too, very
much!
b.w.
Hangman!
William Wixon wrote in message <363412...@warwick.net>...
and has since lost all their records in a fire. I called them (Cessna) after
I saw an actual restored Cessna Primary Glider hanging from the ceiling at
the E.A.A. air museum in Oshkosh Wisconsin. There is a book out the there in
public libraries with the plans/specs printed in it. I'm afraid I don't
remember the title, sorry. It talked a lot about the Bowlus family of
gliders, too. Hope this helps.
AL Mills
ra...@my-dejanews.com
<66C2DC74141773C9.8D8CC340...@library-proxy.airnews.net
>, "Hangman!" <alm...@nospamcrown.net> wrote:
Somewhere, D...@n-lemma.com came on a reprint from an old issue of Modern
Mechanics that had a complete construction article. Del passed it on to me,
and while it may be somewhere off in the future, I hope to build one, if only
for a lawn ornament. That thing has more small fittings and small metal
pieces than a host of other homebuilts. It was called the Northrop primary,
as Northrop was the one to import the design. The author of the article was
W. Farmer, but the name rings no bells with me. Maybe this can give another
clue, I don't know if it is copywrited or not, so I'm quite reluctant to copy
it. The quality of the copy I have is not good and would probably not
reproduce. If someone wants to re-draw it, the loan of my copy could
probably be arranged.
"Lennie the Lurker", formerly Richard.
Should anyone want to re-draw it, give me an e-mail.
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Owen Davies
>Somewhere, D...@n-lemma.com came on a reprint from an old issue of Modern
>Mechanics that had a complete construction article. Del passed it on to
me,
>and while it may be somewhere off in the future, I hope to build one, if
only
>for a lawn ornament. That thing has more small fittings and small metal
>pieces than a host of other homebuilts. It was called the Northrop
primary,
>as Northrop was the one to import the design. The author of the article
was
>W. Farmer, but the name rings no bells with me. (snip)
Weston Farmer was editor of the famed "Flying and Glider Manaul," published
annually by Modern Mechanics in the late 1920s and early '30s. The EAA has
reprinted the issues for 1929 through 1933. (Don't know whether there were
any more; if so, I'd love to know about them so that I can go hunting for
original
copies!) In various issues, you'll find usable plans for the Heath Parasol,
the
Heath Baby Bullet, Les Long's Longster, the Pietenpol Aircamper and Sky
Scout, and (of course) the Northrop primary glider, which appeared in 1930.
Last I knew, EAA Antique and Classic Chapter 15, at the Hampton, NH,
airport, was building one. (Last I knew, the consensus was that no one in
the
group would even think about flying it!)
Anyway, I suspect that most folks here already know about this wonderful
series of publications. If you don't, go looking for them. They may well
be
the best $3 or so per issue you'll ever spend. Vast fun, and a lot of Piets
are still being built from those plans.
And if anyone knows of issues before or after the ones reprinted by the
EAA, please let me know.
Owen Davies
highflyer
Yep. You can get the Bingelis books the same way and at the same
number. I would strongly recommend them to any builder, or wannabe
builder.
HF
highflyer
>
>
> Somewhere, D...@n-lemma.com came on a reprint from an old issue of Modern
> Mechanics that had a complete construction article. Del passed it on to me,
> and while it may be somewhere off in the future, I hope to build one, if only
> for a lawn ornament. That thing has more small fittings and small metal
> pieces than a host of other homebuilts. It was called the Northrop primary,
> as Northrop was the one to import the design. The author of the article was
> clue, I don't know if it is copywrited or not, so I'm quite reluctant to copy
> it. The quality of the copy I have is not good and would probably not
> reproduce. If someone wants to re-draw it, the loan of my copy could
> probably be arranged.
>
Mechanix Illustrated. He was the editor responsible for publishing
the original "Flying and Glider Manuals" that have since been reprinted
by the EAA. He did a great deal in the twenties and thirties to make
technical information available to the ordinary guy, along with
projects to build everything from cars and airboats to airplanes.
HF
William Wixon
i tried to contact you with private email but my message bounced.
Howdy,
I have not yet heard of the Bingelis books, what are they?
thanks.
bill wixon
ra...@my-dejanews.com
probably be tonite, we can exchange real addresses and I'll get it out to
you. I still think it would be best, no, a must, if it were re-drawn with a
lot of the unclear areas made clear. It is confusing to say the least. To
make it even more interesting, if it was re-drawn, the rights to the new
drawings would belong to the one that did it. The design of the plane
belongs to history now.
"Lennie the Lurker", formerly Richard.
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Matt Vogel
They're three books: "Sportplane Construction Techiniques," "Sportplane
Builder" and "Firewall Forward." All available through EAA (try their
website http://www.eaa.org ). I've read the first two, and they're great!
They're also big (like phone books!) and packed with photos, drawings, and
excellent explanations and suggestions. Great stuff.
Hope this helps.
Matt
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William Wixon wrote in message <36375E...@warwick.net>...
ra...@my-dejanews.com
Thanks HF, I have long been interested in such as the Heath and Pete, along
with a few others. It's getting time that I quit flying my planes from the
ground with a radio and get in them again. It has been forty years since I
was behind the controls of anything, and then I had a licensed pilot beside
me. Now redrawing the FXS for al tubing instead of wood, and think the
tubing may come up lighter. More interested in working metal, and after
forty years of metal working, more comfortable with it. Thanks for the phone
no., I'll probably call tomorrow.
Lennie the Lurker, formerly Richard
highflyer
>
> Highflyer,
> i tried to contact you with private email but my message bounced.
>
> Howdy,
> I have not yet heard of the Bingelis books, what are they?
>
> thanks.
>
> bill wixon
Yes. I have the untimate spam filter. No e-mail! :-)
Tony Bingelis wrote a column for Sport Aviation for many MANY years.
It was the "Builder's Corner" and had LOTS of really solid info
about various aspects of building airplanes. Tony built quite a
number of excellent homebuilts himself, including a Falco and a
really nice Emeraude. Both of these did have laminated spars!
All of Tony's various articles over the years were edited and
collected into a series of books by the EAA and they sell them
individually or as a set of four. As a set they offer some of the
BEST down to earth solid "how to" info on homebuilding aircraft that
is available everywhere.
The entire set should be in the library of anyone who sets out to
build themselves an airplane, along with the Government publications
for A&P Mechanics. The govt pubs are the Powerplant Mechanics
Handbook, the Airframe MEchanics Handbook, the General Mechanics
Handbook, and AC43-13 1a&2 Circular on Aircraft Alteration and Repair.
Those eight books, which represent an investment of not more than
$150.00 if you buy them all new, will save you many times their cost
by the time you finish your airplane. Also, just reading them will
teach you a great deal about how airplanes go together and why.
HF
soart...@my-dejanews.com
glider. The site is included below, they will be in the Soaring WebRing
shortly as they are working on adding the code to their page. It's a great
site for older gliders pictures. The site also has both German and English
text. http://www.segelflug.de/vereine/oscwasserkuppe/
You can see all the sites in the soaring Webring by clicking on:
http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=soaring;list
Have a good day,
Dale Taylor
http://www.soarwest.com
In article <717d9r$aoj$1...@pyrite.mv.net>,
"Owen Davies" <ow...@davies.mv.com> wrote:
>
> Weston Farmer was editor of the famed "Flying and Glider Manaul," published
> annually by Modern Mechanics in the late 1920s and early '30s. The EAA has
> reprinted the issues for 1929 through 1933. (Don't know whether there were
> any more; if so, I'd love to know about them so that I can go hunting for
> original
> copies!) In various issues, you'll find usable plans for the Heath Parasol,
> the
> Heath Baby Bullet, Les Long's Longster, the Pietenpol Aircamper and Sky
> Scout, and (of course) the Northrop primary glider, which appeared in 1930.
> Last I knew, EAA Antique and Classic Chapter 15, at the Hampton, NH,
> airport, was building one. (Last I knew, the consensus was that no one in
> the
> group would even think about flying it!)
>
>
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William Wixon
books in their mini lending library. Thanks for telling me about them,
i would never have known to ask about them otherwise.
b.w.