HELP - Boston area rental - NOT Executive Flyers!!!
Patrick
I will be in the Boston area from Thursday (Sept 14th) on and would like to
rent a single engine aircraft there (172, Cherokee, Arrow). Do you know of
any FBOs which are able to supply an aircraft for a 2-3 day trip and some
one-day-cruises?
Please don't mention Executive Flyers - I've had my story with them. Wanna
hear it? It might be a reason for not doing business with them...
I'm a U.S. licensed pilot from Germany and mailed them almost 2 weeks ago if
they can rent a plane for a 3-day-trip and some shorter ones. They said,
yes, that's possible, just mail us the dates. Same day I replied with the
exact dates - no answer. Another mail - no answer. Then I called and got: "I
don't have any aircraft for you for more than one day for the next 2 weeks".
Now I'm sitting here, my plane to Boston leaves Thursday - and I'm scanning
the net for rentable aircraft...
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Patrick
William W. Plummer
Ask for Tim Campbell. Reasonable rates. Nice people. Decent airplanes.
Even a new, year 2000 C272. Low traffic. VOR nearly on the airport. ILS.
NDB. Cross BOS Class-B at 7500' on the way to the Cape, etc. --Bill
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Peter Macpherson
They rent pretty much what you're looking for.
Here is the url.
Peter Macpherson
They rent pretty much what you're looking for.
Here is the url.
Peter Macpherson
They rent pretty much what you're looking for.
Here is the url.
Peter Macpherson
They rent pretty much what you're looking for.
Here is the url.
S. Ramirez
Call East Coast Aero Club at 781-274-6322 and talk to Greg, Lara or
Dierdre. Tell them you need something for 2-3 days, and they will jockey
around the appointments if possible. They are very good at doing this, but
as with Executive Flyers, sometimes the airplanes are booked solid.
Call at 8am EDT and you will get one of the above people. If Mark
answers, then this is really good, because he's the owner, but he's not
there often.
These guys are the best at Hanscom, and I wonder how Executive Flyers
exists. They treat people the same as they treated you.
Be prepared to take a checkride with one of the CFIs to get checked out
on a particular model of airplane. They have 2 C-172s, 5 Warriors, and 2
Arrows, plus a Seminole and some Katanas and Tomahawks.
Good luck.
-Simon
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RKT Technologies, Inc.
<wplu...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>Try Eagle East at Lawrence Memorial Airport, north or Boston. 978-683-3314
>Ask for Tim Campbell. Reasonable rates. Nice people. Decent airplanes.
>Even a new, year 2000 C272. Low traffic. VOR nearly on the airport. ILS.
>NDB. Cross BOS Class-B at 7500' on the way to the Cape, etc. --Bill
I'll second the nomination for Eagle East. I rented from them for
most of a year and then bought my Bonanza from them. They have an
Arrow which is the plane I rented from them for most of that year, for
3-4 day business trips every other week or so. They usually managed
to juggle their schedule around so that I could have the plane for
those three or four days when I needed it.
Their website is http://www.eagle-east.com
TiernansDad
(978-921-4900), both at Beverly (BVY). If you go with New England
Flyers, try to work with Paul Bonito--he's a good instructor, and very
friendly. (I can't find New England Flyers number right now, but their
rates are better than G.A.S.)
--
Fairwinds,
Brian
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after they have exhausted all the alternatives.
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Before you buy.
Gary Drescher
> Please don't mention Executive Flyers - I've had my story with them.
Wanna
> hear it? It might be a reason for not doing business with them...
I'd be interested in your story. I did my training at Executive and
rent from them now. They seem reasonable to me, but I don't have
experience with other places for comparison.
Thanks,
Gary Drescher
Brian D. Medeiros
lessons at Mansfield and I know they have an arrow which is hardly ever
used. They mostly have students that rent from them, and we go for the
cheap 152s. They also have a few 172s and Warriors.
The number is 508-339 - 3624.
You can check out prices at : http://www.king1b9.com/
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Gary Drescher
post. Sorry for my careless reading.
--Gary
David Rind
> Sorry to hear about your experience with Executive. They're
> usually at the counter, not sitting around on the computer so
> the phone is the best way to go. As for their planes, they book
> up early, so if you only gave a 2 week lead time, you probably
> were already beat, as even one person scheduled on a plane all day
> would prevent someone else from taking it all day. Mike Goulian
> is the owner, and he may have been out on the airshow circuit,
> although he should be home now.
>
> If you're renting from East Coast, good luck and make sure
> you do a helluva preflight. Nice folks there though. There
> are also fine FBO's at Norwood and Lawrence which may be able
> to help you.
I'm wondering if Tim would be willing to elaborate on this a bit:
Do you have some affiliation with one of the FBOs? I've been
renting from EFA, but had been considering trying East Coast
because someone said they were less restrictive about runway
length (I'd like to be able to fly into Minuteman). Do you really
feel that East Coast planes are less well maintained than EFA planes?
Any info would be appreciated.
--
David Rind
dr...@caregroup.harvard.edu
Zachary Kessin
David Rind <dr...@caregroup.harvard.edu> writes:
>
> I'm wondering if Tim would be willing to elaborate on this a bit:
>
> Do you have some affiliation with one of the FBOs? I've been
> renting from EFA, but had been considering trying East Coast
> because someone said they were less restrictive about runway
> length (I'd like to be able to fly into Minuteman). Do you really
> feel that East Coast planes are less well maintained than EFA planes?
> Any info would be appreciated.
>
I've been flying with East Coast for a year or so now, and I feal that
they are very good at maintaining their aircraft. I know the guy who
owns the East Coast on the head mechanic both strike me as the kind of
people who I would like to work on the aircraft I am flying.
East Coast does have 3000 ft Runway/ No grass rule but there are some
exceptions, I think minuteman is one of them. You would have to call
and ask.
--Zach Kessin
Marc J. Zeitlin
> Do you have some affiliation with one of the FBOs? I've been
> renting from EFA, but had been considering trying East Coast
> because someone said they were less restrictive about runway
> length (I'd like to be able to fly into Minuteman). Do you really
> feel that East Coast planes are less well maintained than EFA planes?
I fly with East Cost. They recently changed their rules to prohibit
flights to runways under 3K ft. They specifically told me "no Minuteman
- the runway's too crappy". Sigh. Of course, unless you have an
accident, how would they know you landed there.......
Other than that, they're a good bunch of people, and the planes are in
decent shape.
--
Marc J. Zeitlin email: marc_z...@agilent.com
David Rind
> I fly with East Cost. They recently changed their rules to prohibit
> flights to runways under 3K ft. They specifically told me "no Minuteman
> - the runway's too crappy". Sigh. Of course, unless you have an
> accident, how would they know you landed there.......
Sorry to hear that -- Minuteman's a fun place to land, and it's
supposed to have a great restaurant for weekend brunch. I have
friends who live right near the airport and go there to eat and
watch planes land. I've been wanting to fly in some weekend day....
While on the subject of East Coast/Hanscom, anyone know of a
CFI out of Hanscom that they like and who has availability? My
girlfriend's CFI who was at EFA took a commercial job, and EFA
lost a couple of other CFIs and so they have little availability
for her to get lessons right now.
--
David Rind
dr...@caregroup.harvard.edu
R. Mehler
David Rind wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear that -- Minuteman's a fun place to land, and it's
> supposed to have a great restaurant for weekend brunch. I have
> friends who live right near the airport and go there to eat and
> watch planes land. I've been wanting to fly in some weekend day....
>
I wouldn't go real far out of the way for the restaurant, but
it is popular. Big crowds on weekend mornings. I only flew in
there once a year ago, but didn't see anything wrong with the
runway. Maybe politics more than technical reasons are behind
the ban.
> While on the subject of East Coast/Hanscom, anyone know of a
> CFI out of Hanscom that they like and who has availability? My
> girlfriend's CFI who was at EFA took a commercial job, and EFA
> lost a couple of other CFIs and so they have little availability
> for her to get lessons right now.
>
Why would anyone want to take primary training out of Hanscom?
It's just too crowded. I did some flight training at Sterling,
out in the country where the traffic tends to be gliders, not
passenger jets.
RM
Ted Ede
R. Mehler <rme...@utdallas.edu> wrote:
>Why would anyone want to take primary training out of Hanscom?
>It's just too crowded. I did some flight training at Sterling,
>out in the country where the traffic tends to be gliders, not
>passenger jets.
Next to Logan and Worcester they've probably got the best crash crew
of any airport in the state :)
ted
Ross Richardson
remember the FBO. They had the same rule. I asked what I could do to be
able to land at shorter runways. I had to take their short field
(>2400') training. I said lets go. He picked 5 airports, Minuteman,
maybe one called Stirling, and I cannot remeber the rest. We were back
in less than an hour. The chief pilot couldn't believe it. You see I
learned at 1800'.
David Rind wrote:
>
> "Marc J. Zeitlin" wrote:
> > I fly with East Cost. They recently changed their rules to prohibit
> > flights to runways under 3K ft. They specifically told me "no Minuteman
> > - the runway's too crappy". Sigh. Of course, unless you have an
> > accident, how would they know you landed there.......
>
> Sorry to hear that -- Minuteman's a fun place to land, and it's
> supposed to have a great restaurant for weekend brunch. I have
> friends who live right near the airport and go there to eat and
> watch planes land. I've been wanting to fly in some weekend day....
>
> While on the subject of East Coast/Hanscom, anyone know of a
> CFI out of Hanscom that they like and who has availability? My
> girlfriend's CFI who was at EFA took a commercial job, and EFA
> lost a couple of other CFIs and so they have little availability
> for her to get lessons right now.
>
> --
> David Rind
> dr...@caregroup.harvard.edu
David Rind
> Why would anyone want to take primary training out of Hanscom?
> It's just too crowded. I did some flight training at Sterling,
> out in the country where the traffic tends to be gliders, not
> passenger jets.
Two reasons:
1) Hanscom is very close to where she lives.
2) If you learn at a place like Hanscom, you end up very comfortable
flying into the various crowded airports in the area.
--
David Rind
dr...@caregroup.harvard.edu
Zachary Kessin
David Rind <dr...@caregroup.harvard.edu> writes:
>
> While on the subject of East Coast/Hanscom, anyone know of a
> CFI out of Hanscom that they like and who has availability? My
> girlfriend's CFI who was at EFA took a commercial job, and EFA
> lost a couple of other CFIs and so they have little availability
> for her to get lessons right now.
>
> --
> David Rind
> dr...@caregroup.harvard.edu
The bad news is that I think all 3 schools (EFA, ECAC, and Fox) are
short on instructors. With the airlines hiring with fewer hours it is
becoming more difficult for the schools to hold onto them. In the end
dual will get more expensive as they pay the instructors more to get
them to stay around.
--Zach Kessin
Zachary Kessin
"R. Mehler" <rme...@utdallas.edu> writes:
>
> Why would anyone want to take primary training out of Hanscom?
> It's just too crowded. I did some flight training at Sterling,
> out in the country where the traffic tends to be gliders, not
> passenger jets.
>
> RM
I am doing my primary at Hanscom, as for why well several reasons,
when I started it was by far the closest thing to my home. The other
plus for me is that after learing at BED big fields won't scare
me. I've seen more or less everything there and have done fine. Seeing
Dash-8's, C-135's, blimps, Corprate jets of all kinds is more or less
normal as far as I'm concerned.
It does not hurt that I'm flying a Katana and have a great CFI.
--Zach Kessin
Tom Williams
> David Rind wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to hear that -- Minuteman's a fun place to land, and it's
> > supposed to have a great restaurant for weekend brunch. I have
> > friends who live right near the airport and go there to eat and
> > watch planes land. I've been wanting to fly in some weekend day....
> >
>
> I wouldn't go real far out of the way for the restaurant, but
> it is popular. Big crowds on weekend mornings. I only flew in
> there once a year ago, but didn't see anything wrong with the
> runway. Maybe politics more than technical reasons are behind
> the ban.
I disagree. Minuteman's runway is not aging well and I cannot fault
anyone who does not want their plane landing there. It has significant
frost heaves and uneven surfaces. I drove up the runway in my car one
night last month and did not feel comfortable driving over about 30 mi/hr
as the ride on the car was so lousy. That having been said, I would not
hesitate to visit the field in a taildragger, but I would be very hesitant
in a nosedragger. Hopefully it will be repaved someday.
Peter H. Schmidt
>
> "R. Mehler" <rme...@utdallas.edu> writes:
>
> >
> > Why would anyone want to take primary training out of Hanscom?
> > It's just too crowded. I did some flight training at Sterling,
> > out in the country where the traffic tends to be gliders, not
> > passenger jets.
> >
> > RM
>
> I am doing my primary at Hanscom, as for why well several reasons,
> when I started it was by far the closest thing to my home. The other
> plus for me is that after learing at BED big fields won't scare
> me. I've seen more or less everything there and have done fine. Seeing
> Dash-8's, C-135's, blimps, Corprate jets of all kinds is more or less
> normal as far as I'm concerned.
What Zach said!
Plus, I get a kick out of cool planes, and I love being in the pattern
with them. Sure, I may be in a bug smasher, but actually sharing the
air with a T-38, a Pitts, an Extra, even a Beech Starship (!) is a dream
come true. BED does get busy, and learning to cope with that has been
good for my "professionalism," I think. I was listening to the tower
while waiting to get on a plane out of Ronald Reagan this morning, and
if anything, it was a lot less hectic than BED. I think I could handle
it. <shrug>
Not to mention that I live about 1.75 miles diagonally from the approach
end of 29, making it a 4 minute trip to the FBO and meaning I turn base
within sight of my house. :-)
I think the busy-ness delayed my solo, since I was extending downwind
and doing right 360s instead of T&Gs a lot of the time, but I think the
rest of my training will go faster for the experience.
FWIW -- Peter
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KJKreuzer
>with them.
A few weeks back,while on dowwind I was asked to extend to allow a 737 (just
coming out of the overcast) to land ahead of me. O, by the way,caution wake
turbulence :-)
Zachary Kessin
kjkr...@aol.com (KJKreuzer) writes:
> >Plus, I get a kick out of cool planes, and I love being in the pattern
> >with them.
>
> A few weeks back,while on dowwind I was asked to extend to allow a 737 (just
> coming out of the overcast) to land ahead of me. O, by the way,caution wake
> turbulence :-)
Last week (I think) I saw a C-135 in Air Force One Colors land at
BED. (It was not being AF1 or AF2 at that at that time). Massive wake
turbulence.
--Zach
highflyer
>
> "R. Mehler" wrote:
>
> I disagree. Minuteman's runway is not aging well and I cannot fault
> anyone who does not want their plane landing there. It has significant
> frost heaves and uneven surfaces. I drove up the runway in my car one
> night last month and did not feel comfortable driving over about 30 mi/hr
> as the ride on the car was so lousy. That having been said, I would not
> hesitate to visit the field in a taildragger, but I would be very hesitant
> in a nosedragger. Hopefully it will be repaved someday.
Just schedule a major flyin there! :-) I worked for me. They were
supposed to repave our airport for a full year. Scheduling the
rec.aviation flyin did the job. The first plane that flew in had
to go to a nearby airport because the paving crew was still on the
runway! :-)
The fifth annual is scheduled for May. See the flyin page at
http://aviator.cwis.siu.edu/flyin/
--
HighFlyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Bernard Karl Velivis
I did my primary training out of East Cost at Hanscom. A gentleman by the name of Al Arcease was my instructor and I can
hightly recommend him. I dont have his phone number handy, but I am sure you can get it through East Coast. If you cant,
drop me a line at vel...@ix.netcom.com and I'll get it for you when I get home on Friday.
Bernie
In article <39C61834...@caregroup.harvard.edu>,
David Rind <dr...@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote:
>"Marc J. Zeitlin" wrote:
>> I fly with East Cost. They recently changed their rules to prohibit
>> flights to runways under 3K ft. They specifically told me "no Minuteman
>> - the runway's too crappy". Sigh. Of course, unless you have an
>> accident, how would they know you landed there.......
>
>Sorry to hear that -- Minuteman's a fun place to land, and it's
>supposed to have a great restaurant for weekend brunch. I have
>friends who live right near the airport and go there to eat and
>watch planes land. I've been wanting to fly in some weekend day....
>
David Abrams
stopped there Sat for lunch (very good) and the runway is fine. It is not
BED but it certainly is good enough for any production airplane. As I was
climbing out a Mooney was landing and those guys have very little wheel well
cover room to work with.
Come on you make it sound like the grass at 7B3 (Hampton). They build
airplanes to land too you know.
David Abrams.
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Christopher Jenkins
but landable. My plane spends half its time there.
Chris Jenkins
N411BC
David Abrams wrote:
> Are you sure you are talking about 6B6 (Minuteman) and not Sterling? I just
> stopped there Sat for lunch (very good) and the runway is fine. It is not
> BED but it certainly is good enough for any production airplane. As I was
> climbing out a Mooney was landing and those guys have very little wheel well
> cover room to work with.
>
> Come on you make it sound like the grass at 7B3 (Hampton). They build
> airplanes to land too you know.
>
> David Abrams.
>
> "Tom Williams" <tom.wi...@hfhans.nospam> wrote in message
> news:39C81D08...@hfhans.nospam...
John Zuena
After I got my licence I opened an account with East Coast. Now I'm adding a
rotorcraft rating and its back to Norwood. After flying out of Hanscom since
'97, Norwood seems downright empty. In a one hour flight practicing autos on
the inactive runway I'll hear 5 or 6 planes talking with the tower. And this
is on a great Saturday or Sunday morning. At Hanscom, I've been in the
pattern with 5 or 6 other planes, with 5 or 6 more waiting to take off. I'll
gladly drive the extra 20-30 minutes to Norwood to save .1-.2 in HOBBS waiting
to take off plus another .1 in extended downwinds and the occasional go
arounds from too many planes trying to squeeze on and off the runway at the
peak times. Norwood's only downside is that it will remain IFR longer on
foggy mornings than other airports in the area.
In article <39C66827...@caregroup.harvard.edu>, David Rind
<dr...@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote:
>"R. Mehler" wrote:
>
>> Why would anyone want to take primary training out of Hanscom?
>> It's just too crowded. I did some flight training at Sterling,
>> out in the country where the traffic tends to be gliders, not
>> passenger jets.
>
>Two reasons:
>
>1) Hanscom is very close to where she lives.
>2) If you learn at a place like Hanscom, you end up very comfortable
>flying into the various crowded airports in the area.
>
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David Abrams
mini-major airports like ALB). Learning to extend downwind (but another
mile and I am in the TCA!), controller calling your base, "sorry stop and
taxi back only", watch for wake turbulance departing C141, etc make you well
preped for complex airspace (and IFR training). I had a friend that soloed
at ASH before the tower was installed and once the tower started up he quit
because he was intimidated by the radio.
Pretty much every other airport I fly into is dead quiet after learning at
BED. I am rather happy I ended up there since at the time I did not know
the difference.
David
@nospam.bnet.at Chris Kurz
> <dr...@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote:
> >"R. Mehler" wrote:
> >
> >> Why would anyone want to take primary training out of Hanscom?
> >> It's just too crowded. I did some flight training at Sterling,
> >> out in the country where the traffic tends to be gliders, not
> >> passenger jets.
I can only recommend BVY, Beverly. It's not much farther than Hanscom, you
still have a tower there to practice your radio skills, a LOC approach and
it's not so heavy that you burn too much of your hobbs time on the ground or
on a long downwind. I flew from ASH, BED, Sterling, Lawrence, etc. And my
favorite is BVY. Give it a whirl.
-- Chris.
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