Transient parking at Teterboro
Hjk40
Aviation on the north end of the field. Yesterday I got a letter saying that
they were raising the ramp fee to $50 per night with or without fuel purchase,
up from 15$ per night, with the first night fee waived if you buy fuel.
Needless to say, I won't be using First Aviation in the future. The question
is, does anybody know of an FBO at Teterboro with reasonable ramp fees? TIA
Howard Kahn
Fairfax Station, VA
Howard Kahn
Fairfax Station, VA
RossPilot
>they were raising the ramp fee to $50 per night with or without fuel
>purchase,
>up from 15$ per night, with the first night fee waived if you buy fuel.
>Needless to say, I won't be using First Aviation in the future. The question
>is, does anybody know of an FBO at Teterboro with reasonable ramp fees?
I can't help with your question . . . but I am curious what kind of aircraft
you fly? I am based at Caldwell, and when I went to a certain FBO there
looking for a permanent tie-down, I was told that Teterboro is kicking out
small Cessnas and Cherokees as fast as they can to make room for the Lears and
Citations and bigger boys . . . creating a bigger demand (read: higher prices)
at the surrounding fields.
Bahadir Acuner
last Sept. we had a great service out of the Av Atlantic people at the
west side of the field. Give them a call..
(www.airnav.com has their number)
BAHA
Hjk40 wrote:
>
> I fly into Teterboro for weekends occaisionally, and usually tie down at First
> Aviation on the north end of the field. Yesterday I got a letter saying that
> they were raising the ramp fee to $50 per night with or without fuel purchase,
> up from 15$ per night, with the first night fee waived if you buy fuel.
> Needless to say, I won't be using First Aviation in the future. The question
Hjk40
(RossPilot) writes:
>I can't help with your question . . . but I am curious what kind of aircraft
>you fly? I am based at Caldwell, and when I went to a certain FBO there
>looking for a permanent tie-down, I was told that Teterboro is kicking out
>small Cessnas and Cherokees as fast as they can to make room for the Lears
>and
>Citations and bigger boys . . . creating a bigger demand (read: higher
>prices)
>at the surrounding fields.
>
>---
I fly an Archer. The ramp fee increase at First Aviation applies to both light
singles and twins..
Dave Sutton
> I fly into Teterboro for weekends occaisionally, and usually tie down at First
> Aviation on the north end of the field. Yesterday I got a letter saying that
> they were raising the ramp fee to $50 per night with or without fuel purchase,
> up from 15$ per night, with the first night fee waived if you buy fuel.
> Needless to say, I won't be using First Aviation in the future. The question
> is, does anybody know of an FBO at Teterboro with reasonable ramp fees? TIA
>
>
> Fairfax Station, VA
The reason for First's change is that the new ILS-19 approach closed about
70% of their ramp, because of the ILS protected area. This displaced many
of the light aircraft that were based there, never mind transients.
Try Millionaire, as they cater to the light airplane fleet. Also there is an operation
near the tower on the east side of the field called Air Fleet, where there is a flight
school, etc. Best bet, actually, woudl be to go to Caldwell, about 10 miles West.
Hey, you need to rent a car anyhow, right? CDW is far more small-airplane friendly.
TEB, sorry to say, is really for business jets.
Dave Sutton dsu...@redstaraviation.org
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Roy Smith
> Also there is an operation near the tower on the east side of the
> field called Air Fleet
I really don't know much about Air Fleet other than the fact that they
share a building with the FSDO. Parking my airplane so close to a FSDO
would give me the willies. Call it paranoia if you want, but I think the
ramp-check nightmares would keep me up at night.
> Best bet, actually, woudl be to go to Caldwell, about 10 miles West.
> Hey, you need to rent a car anyhow, right? CDW is far more small-airplane
> friendly.
I used to fly out of CDW. I agree that it's a pretty good place for small
planes, especially transients. From what I understand, the airport
management isn't too friendly to the residents (at least that's what the
Caldwell Pilot's Association says) but the transient ramp is nice and
close to the FBOs, almost no commercial traffic, and decent instrument
approaches (no ILS, but the localizer's almost as good).
RossPilot
I am based at Caldwell . . . and cannot find ONE thing there to complain about.
Never a delay getting out, never a severe crosswind condition, and the
localizer to 22
is enough to get in in any conditions that I would be flying in. I only hope
that the squeeze by Teterboro doesn't cause my tie-down price to climb too
much.
Roy Smith
> I am based at Caldwell . . . and cannot find ONE thing there to complain
> about.
When I was there (3-4 years ago), the locals were bitching that management
was requiring things in tiedown leases which the plane owners didn't
like. Stuff having to do with washing planes, self-maintenance, insurance
(minimum amounts, and having the airport as a named insured), etc. They
also moved a lot of people to the "new" Bravo tiedown area at mid-field,
which meant they had to cross a runway to get to their planes, and they
could only do that in an official airport vehicle, etc.
Caius Marius
>I used to fly out of CDW. I agree that it's a pretty good place for small
>planes, especially transients. From what I understand, the airport
>management isn't too friendly to the residents (at least that's what the
>Caldwell Pilot's Association says) but the transient ramp is nice and
>close to the FBOs, almost no commercial traffic, and decent instrument
>approaches (no ILS, but the localizer's almost as good).
I don't have a lot of complaints about CDW management........except for the
&^%*&^% cost.
John - N8086N
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Roy Smith
> I don't have a lot of complaints about CDW management........except for the
> &^%*&^% cost.
If you think CDW is expensive, you should come to HPN. What are you
paying for a tiedown? We're paying something like $160/month, for which
we get a spot on the outer reaches of civilization, where we have to push
the airplanes uphill into the tiedown spots. We've got a porta-potty on
the ramp for our convenience. Nearest phone is a mile away. No place to
go inside out of the rain or the cold, unless you drive a mile in the
other direction.
This is all supposed to improve next year when they finish the new GA
parking area on the other side of the field, but nobody's told us yet what
our tiedown fees will get jacked up to then.
Bob Noel
r...@popmail.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) wrote:
> > I don't have a lot of complaints about CDW management........except for the
> > &^%*&^% cost.
>
> If you think CDW is expensive, you should come to HPN. What are you
> paying for a tiedown? We're paying something like $160/month,
$160/month !!! wow! I thought $85/month at BED was expensive.
cripes, the T-hangers at BED are "only" $225/month (with an 8 year waiting
list).
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RossPilot
>also moved a lot of people to the "new" Bravo tiedown area at mid-field,
>which meant they had to cross a runway to get to their planes, and they
>could only do that in an official airport vehicle, etc.
I was at "Bravo-West" for about 5 months at $85.00/month . . . and could have
stayed there, but didn't like the inconvenience of having to get a ride to my
plane and back on every flight. So I moved to the Delta area (near C & W) by
the wash pad . . . it's $130.00/month, but only a few steps from my car to my
plane.
Caius Marius
>> I don't have a lot of complaints about CDW management........except for the
>> &^%*&^% cost.
>
>If you think CDW is expensive, you should come to HPN. What are you
>we get a spot on the outer reaches of civilization, where we have to push
>the airplanes uphill into the tiedown spots. We've got a porta-potty on
>the ramp for our convenience. Nearest phone is a mile away. No place to
>go inside out of the rain or the cold, unless you drive a mile in the
>other direction.
I think we pay $225/month.
Margy Natalie
Roy Smith wrote:
> n...@yahoo.com (Caius Marius) wrote:
> > I don't have a lot of complaints about CDW management........except for the
> > &^%*&^% cost.
>
> If you think CDW is expensive, you should come to HPN. What are you
> paying for a tiedown? We're paying something like $160/month, for which
> we get a spot on the outer reaches of civilization, where we have to push
> the airplanes uphill into the tiedown spots. We've got a porta-potty on
> the ramp for our convenience. Nearest phone is a mile away. No place to
> go inside out of the rain or the cold, unless you drive a mile in the
> other direction.
I used to complain when we paid $125 at Dulles!! We moved to Potomac and pay
$50.
Margy
>
Dave Sutton
> When I was there (3-4 years ago), the locals were bitching that management
> was requiring things in tiedown leases which the plane owners didn't
> like. Stuff having to do with washing planes, self-maintenance, insurance
> (minimum amounts, and having the airport as a named insured), etc.
It's the insurance requirement that keeps me away from CDW. Named Insured?
What this means is that the airport is -completely- idemnified against subrogation
should they run a plow into your airplane or destroy or damage it in any way.
-Your- insurance company pays you, and then cannot stake a claim against
the airport authority for negligence. Bottom line: -you- pay more for your policy
so that they pay less for theirs.
BS to that! I'm elsewhere with my fleet, buying fuel and all of that. Only CDW loses.
Gregory Travis
Roy Smith <r...@popmail.med.nyu.edu> wrote:
>n...@yahoo.com (Caius Marius) wrote:
>> I don't have a lot of complaints about CDW management........except for the
>> &^%*&^% cost.
>
>If you think CDW is expensive, you should come to HPN. What are you
>paying for a tiedown? We're paying something like $160/month, for which
>we get a spot on the outer reaches of civilization, where we have to push
>the airplanes uphill into the tiedown spots. We've got a porta-potty on
>the ramp for our convenience. Nearest phone is a mile away. No place to
>go inside out of the rain or the cold, unless you drive a mile in the
>other direction.
>
>parking area on the other side of the field, but nobody's told us yet what
>our tiedown fees will get jacked up to then.
Wow, you need to get out of the city, Roy. Tiedowns are $30 a month
here at BMG, a fully enclosed angar is $110.
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RossPilot
>here at BMG, a fully enclosed angar is $110.
So where's BMG?
Steve S
news:ihatessppaamm-0...@192.168.1.150...
> In article <roy-030799...@mc-as01-p63.med.nyu.edu>,
> r...@popmail.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) wrote:
>
> > > I don't have a lot of complaints about CDW management........except
for the
> > > &^%*&^% cost.
> >
> > If you think CDW is expensive, you should come to HPN. What are you
> > paying for a tiedown? We're paying something like $160/month,
>
>
> cripes, the T-hangers at BED are "only" $225/month (with an 8 year waiting
> list).
>
> --
> Bob
> (I think people can figure out how to email me...)
> (replace ihatessppaamm with my name (rnoel) and hw1 with mediaone)
T-Hangers at HPN??? They're an average of $600-800/month with 5-10 year
leases (payable in full in advance, the longer the lease the less the
monthly rent) They were gobbled up by lottery immediately. Imagine
shelling out $72,000 for hanger rent??
Steve S
Jim Sokoloff
> It's the insurance requirement that keeps me away from CDW. Named Insured?
> What this means is that the airport is -completely- idemnified against subrogation
> should they run a plow into your airplane or destroy or damage it in any way.
> -Your- insurance company pays you, and then cannot stake a claim against
> the airport authority for negligence. Bottom line: -you- pay more for your policy
> so that they pay less for theirs.
I'm not convinced that's true; I got my insurance for the year, and
later added the MHT airport authority as a named insured. No additional
charge.
---Jim
Airplane96
is great. I utilize MacDan for refueling and maintainance. There are other
FBO based there which are just as good. I landed in TEB to pick up a friend,
taxied to Millionaire and paid the normal $5.00 landing fee, and also a $25.00
ramp fee, for less then 30 minutes of being there that's crazy. I now refuse
to land there.
Caius Marius
to complain! :-)