Alpha Bravo Charlie Dixie?
Bullgoose
While using my scanner to listen to Ground at Atlanta airport, I noticed
that the controllers didn't use the standard word for the forth letter for
the phonetic alaphabet. Rather, they used DIXIE instead. Is this just a bit
of that good old Southern patriotism? Or are they trying to avoid confusion
with Delta airlines, who seems to operate about nine out of every ten planes
leaving that place?
Dane Spearing
I've also noticed that planes from southern locales also tend to use
"Sugar" for S rather than "Sierra".
It's got to be some sort of southern thing...
-- Dane
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| Dane Spearing
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HECTOP
pattern around SDL (Scottsdale, AZ) till it finally dawned on me :)
.... Cherokee....
HECTOP
P.S. Here in Northeast it's mostly pronounced "che-roh-key"
haam...@home.net
when reading back a clearance, but the Delta folks and the controllers
will primarily say "dixie". This happens only at Atlanta since
controllers at other airports would probably make fun of them
(deservedly so, considering how often they get lost in SLC).
Personally, I think they should change the name of the airline to avoid
confusion. ;)
Bill Douglas
FE 727
John Schmidt
haam...@home.net wrote:
> It's a Delta thing. You'll notice some other carriers will say
"delta"
> when reading back a clearance, but the Delta folks and the controllers
> will primarily say "dixie". This happens only at Atlanta since
> controllers at other airports would probably make fun of them
> (deservedly so, considering how often they get lost in SLC).
>
> Personally, I think they should change the name of the airline to
avoid
> confusion. ;)
>
> Bill Douglas
> FE 727
>
ABLE, BAKER, CHARLIE, DOG, EASY, et cetera.
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Before you buy.
Steven P. McNicoll
<haam...@home.net> wrote in message news:3988A634...@home.net...
>
> Personally, I think they should change the name of the airline to avoid
> confusion. ;)
>
If confusion is a problem, then the phonetic alphabet should be changed.
The airline did have "Delta" first.
Bullgoose
> Nope. There really is a special taxiway DIXIE at ATL.
>
> Check http://www.deja.com/usenet if you want to look it up.
Tried, but couldn't find it.
And my Flight Guide only shows plain old taxiway D.
Bullgoose
Dan Luke wrote in message:
> Dang it, I can't find it now, either.
But I looked on AOPA's web-site, and there it is!
http://data.aopa2.org/images/asf/taxi/00026AD.pdf
The DIXIE label appears on taxiway D near the tower.
It isn't in the Flight Guide version, though.
vincent p. norris
>
>ABLE, BAKER, CHARLIE, DOG, EASY, et cetera.
>
"new" one.
vince norris
Dan Luke
> While using my scanner to listen to Ground at Atlanta airport, I noticed
> that the controllers didn't use the standard word for the forth letter for
> the phonetic alaphabet. Rather, they used DIXIE instead. Is this just a
bit
> of that good old Southern patriotism?
Nope. There really is a special taxiway DIXIE at ATL.
This has been discussed before. Check http://www.deja.com/usenet if you want
to look it up.
Dan
N9387D@BFM
Dan Luke
>in message news:sohjqm5...@corp.supernews.com...
> Dan Luke wrote:
>
> > Nope. There really is a special taxiway DIXIE at ATL.
> >
Dang it, I can't find it now, either.
Somebody here knows.
Dan
N9387D@BFM
MACKLIN
time they had colors assigned to runways and you could follow the red line
to runway whatever and a blue line or a green line, they had painted
different colored stripes on the taxiways. Bet the FAA standards people
didn't like it. It was a great idea.
"Dan Luke" <dan...@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
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Randy Howard
> It took me awhile to get it why ppl were calling each other "Jerky" in the
> pattern around SDL (Scottsdale, AZ) till it finally dawned on me :)
>
> .... Cherokee....
>
> HECTOP
>
> P.S. Here in Northeast it's mostly pronounced "che-roh-key"
And since there are/were such high concentrations of Cherokee indians
in the Northeast (as opposed to the Southwest), I would definitely go
with their pronounciation.
--
Randy Howard
mike regish
I learned "Alpha, Charlie, Bravo, Delta, etc" 25 years ago...
mike
--
mike regish
1953 TriPacer
N3428A
mike regish
Any idea why it never caught on?
mike
MACKLIN wrote:
>
> Back in 1968 I flew into DSM on my way from Illinois to Wyoming. At that
> time they had colors assigned to runways and you could follow the red line
> to runway whatever and a blue line or a green line, they had painted
> different colored stripes on the taxiways. Bet the FAA standards people
> didn't like it. It was a great idea.
Frederic Woodbridge, III
<3988b781...@news.psu.edu>:
>>I vote for going back to the old alpahbet:
>>
>>ABLE, BAKER, CHARLIE, DOG, EASY, et cetera.
>>
>Me too! I can still remember the old one but have trouble with the
>"new" one.
>
>vince norris
Sorry guys, you don't get to vote on this one. :)
--
Frédéric Woodbridge, III
"A man's own tongue may cut his throat" - Sa'di
Andrea Wolf GUAGLIO
one of the reasons that led to switch to the new phonetic alphabed is
said to be the opposition of the Royal Family in UK.
It happened to hear:
Queen Fox Easy
and some royal people didn't really like the idea of taking the joke
out of their sexual habits and behaviour :-)
Have fun!
Andrea W. GUAGLIO
Milan, ITALY
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If you want to privately mail me, please replace WantNoSpam with FLYING_WOLF
John Schmidt
mike regish <mre...@mediaone.net> wrote:
> Uh...just how old is that alphabet...
> I learned "Alpha, Charlie, Bravo, Delta, etc" 25 years ago...
> mike
>
> "vincent p. norris" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >ABLE, BAKER, CHARLIE, DOG, EASY, et cetera.
> > >
> > Me too! I can still remember the old one but have trouble with the
> > "new" one.
> >
> > vince norris
>
> mike regish
> 1953 TriPacer
> N3428A
>
>
earlier.
Steven P. McNicoll
"mike regish" <mre...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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>
> Uh...just how old is that alphabet...
> I learned "Alpha, Charlie, Bravo, Delta, etc" 25 years ago...
> mike
>
The current phonetic alphabet replaced the previous one in the US on April
1, 1952.
Larry Fransson
>
> You know, I bet that system could radically reduce runway incursions.
> Any idea why it never caught on?
Somebody probably followed one of those painted lines right across an
active runway without a clearance.
Larry Fransson
Pilots are just plane people with a different air about them.
Eric W. Seelig
> You know, I bet that system could radically reduce runway incursions.
> Any idea why it never caught on?
All those people with color vision problems would have to have the
restriction on their medicals appended to include, "No taxiing with
reference to pretty colorful lines painted on the pavement." You'd
have to get a soda.
"Gee, Bob, what color would you say that line is? Yellow? Okay,
you pass."
Eric
MACKLIN
instructor, Debbie H., put her pillows in the seat, climbed in and after
engine start, with a pull on the T handle in the center of the panel, said,
"hold the microphone so the edge touches your lip and say, Springfield
Ground, Cessna 3 0 5 8 Juliet, ready to taxi..." This was before ATIS.
Anyway the ground controller came back with, "Cessan 3058 Junk..." He knew
that airplane.
"Eric W. Seelig" <ese...@nwu.edu> wrote in message
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MACKLIN
panel to engage the starter.
"Copafeel" <copa...@hotmail.co.> wrote in message
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> MACKLIN wrote:
> >
> > My very first flight lesson was back in 1967 in CE150 N3058J. The
> > instructor, Debbie H., put her pillows in the seat, climbed in and after
> > engine start, with a pull on the T handle in the center of the panel,
said,
>
> My first lesson started back in 1978. My instructor, Elaine, after
> climbing in pressed her pillows next to my arm. She didn't pull my
> handle while flying until the 3rd lesson. I've always loved her for
> that as well as now - during our 21 years of marriage.
WIACapt
>Nope. There really is a special taxiway DIXIE at ATL.
>
It is not a special taxiway.
WIACapt
Dan Luke
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> >
> >Nope. There really is a special taxiway DIXIE at ATL.
> >
>
> It is not a special taxiway.
Show me another taxiway somewhere that's officially named "DIXIE".
I think being the only one makes it special.
Dan
N9387D@BFM
Edward Zager
My understanding is that the current phonetic alaphabet was designed such
that the pronunciation would be highly similar regardless of the speaker's
native language.
Edward Zager Focke Wulf 149JZ