What can a CFI do without a Medical?
WAnthonyClarke
except when the instructor is a required crewmember. The are not many
activities I can think of which do not require the the instructor to act as PIC
or required crewmember.
You couldn't give primary instruction and that is where most of the business
is.
Heather RG Hopfensperger
a BFR and is current can act as PIC. Yes, you are right, you couldn't give
primary instruction.
Heather
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Matthew Majka
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> A commercial student can act as PIC of the aircraft. Someone who is in
for
> a BFR and is current can act as PIC. Yes, you are right, you couldn't
give
> primary instruction.
> Heather
Actually, you can't do a BFR as hood work is part of the BFR
and for that part of the flight you are a required crew member.
I was reminded of that during my oral exam... ;-)
al...@huckerby.net
WAnthonyClarke <wanthon...@aol.com> writes
>It is said a Medical Certificate is not required to give flight instruction
>except when the instructor is a required crewmember. The are not many
>activities I can think of which do not require the the instructor to act as PIC
>or required crewmember.
>You couldn't give primary instruction and that is where most of the business
>is.
Just a though, haven't engaged brain and checked the regs!
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Steve Foley
I think it comes free inside the CFI envelope.
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>In article <20000801131521...@ng-ca1.aol.com>,
Northstar
What is the hangup?
David
On 01 Aug 2000 17:15:21 GMT, wanthon...@aol.com (WAnthonyClarke)
wrote:
WAnthonyClarke
to act as flight instructor." I don't think they were putting enough emphasis
on how limited a flight instructor would be without a valid medical. An
ill-informed person might have even thought from listening to them that a
medical certificate wasn't needed to instruct at all.
MACKLIN
You could just tell him to watch his instruments and that is "legal" for
instrument instruction.
At least that is what the AOPA FIRC said last fall.
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James M. Knox
>It is said a Medical Certificate is not required to give flight instruction
>except when the instructor is a required crewmember. The are not many
>activities I can think of which do not require the the instructor to act as PIC
>or required crewmember.
Also, remember that even where a medical is required (primary instruction, for
instance) it only needs to be a Class III, not a Class II medical. [Bizarre,
but true.]
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wrote:
Why do you consider this bizarre?????
John Prickett
>
> Heather RG Hopfensperger <hhop...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> > A commercial student can act as PIC of the aircraft. Someone who is in
> for
> > a BFR and is current can act as PIC. Yes, you are right, you couldn't
> give
> > primary instruction.
> > Heather
>
> Actually, you can't do a BFR as hood work is part of the BFR
> and for that part of the flight you are a required crew member.
> I was reminded of that during my oral exam... ;-)
say, what? when did hood work become 'part of the
bfr?' afaik, the bfr consists of (at least) one
hour ground instruction and (at least) one hour
of flying instruction. no specific maneuvers or
requirements are made on the flying portion --
iow, it's at the discretion of the instructor.
if this reg has recently changed, somebody please
let me know before i do that guy's bfr i'm
scheduled for tomorrow night.
john
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Heather Hopfensperger
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WAnthonyClarke
>for
>>instance) it only needs to be a Class III, not a Class II medical.
>[Bizarre,
>>but true.]
>
AOPA explanation of this makes sense to me. CFI's are not being paid as
commercial pilots when instructing they are being paid for their instruction.
That is why CFI's are not required to carry a 1st or 2nd class medical.
Paul Baechler
wanthon...@aol.com (WAnthonyClarke) wrote:
No, a CFI is not required to have a 1st or 2nd class medical because FAR
61.21(a)(3)(iv) requires a 3rd class medical for a CFI acting as PIC, and
61.21(b)(5) states no medical is required if the CFI is not PIC or a
required pilot crewmember. If he is compensated, or for what, are not
relevant issues.
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Mike Reichfeld
class. So the options were, to keep them on the government payroll but with very little use, or change the
regs. and make it third class.
When it's concern the FAA, they take care of their own, and by doing so the same rule had to be applied to
all.
seeya..Mike..
"James M. Knox" wrote:
>
>
> Also, remember that even where a medical is required (primary instruction, for
> instance) it only needs to be a Class III, not a Class II medical. [Bizarre,
> but true.]
>
J C
>
> > >>Also, remember that even where a medical is required (primary instruction,
> > >for
> > >>instance) it only needs to be a Class III, not a Class II medical.
> > >[Bizarre, but true.]
> > >
> >
> > commercial pilots when instructing they are being paid for their instruction.
> > That is why CFI's are not required to carry a 1st or 2nd class medical.
>
> No, a CFI is not required to have a 1st or 2nd class medical because FAR
> 61.21(a)(3)(iv) requires a 3rd class medical for a CFI acting as PIC, and
> 61.21(b)(5) states no medical is required if the CFI is not PIC or a
> required pilot crewmember. If he is compensated, or for what, are not
> relevant issues.
>
> pbae...@bellsouth.net
The AOPA explanation, while true, isn't their own. It's from a FAA Legal
interpretation from sometime in the mid-'80s (IIRC), and the fact that CFIs
need no medical if they don't act as a required flight crewmember was true
before that major revision to Part 61.
The sections Mr. Baechler cites were added in 1997 to "codify" that
interpretation.
CFIs may do Flight Reviews without a medical as long as the "reviewee" is
current, etc. They may not do an Instrument Proficiency Check, though, if they
have to act as a safety pilot (a safety pilot is a required flight crewmember
if the pilot uses a "view limiting device").
JC Boylls
J C
J C
Matthew Majka
FSDO guy asked me about on the oral exam. I can't
find anything to back it up other than "it is probably
a good idea to do some hood work on the BFR"?
Heather Hopfensperger <avia...@nospam.execpc.com> wrote in message
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> I think maybe he was talking about instrument work with the Wings program.
> Heather
>