Charts & A/FD & a/p's
jack
Does your State provide a State aeronautical map and/or State airport
directory? How helpful have you found these items to be?
I use the A/FD whenever I go to a new airport or need to review any of
the a/p data for places I haven't been lately. I find a/p's on the State
charts that do not show up on the Fed charts, but have not yet found any
a/p's on the charts that do not show up in the A/FD, except for
private/restricted a/p's.
I wish that private a/p's at least had contact data and status (club
owned, private individual, commercial operation, etc.) listed, when they
show up on the charts. It might be possible to find hangar space or to
get permission for a single use opportunity.
Jack
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Jim Sokoloff
> I wish that private a/p's at least had contact data and status (club
> owned, private individual, commercial operation, etc.) listed, when they
> show up on the charts. It might be possible to find hangar space or to
> get permission for a single use opportunity.
www.airnav.com (then "Airports")
Using this to find them, I've contacted several owners of private strips
for authorization.
---Jim
Ron Natalie
jack wrote:
>
> Does your State provide a State aeronautical map and/or State airport
> directory? How helpful have you found these items to be?
A state aeronautical chart is only good for hanging on the wall.
They're just out of date, crudely produced sectionals. The only
advantage of which is that they are realigned to get the entire
state on one side of the chart.
Some states however, put out very nice airport directories. For
instance, MD has quite detailed diagrams, phone numbers and name
of the airport manager, and special information on noise abatement
that didn't make it into the AF/D.
>
> I wish that private a/p's at least had contact data and status (club
> owned, private individual, commercial operation, etc.) listed, when they
> show up on the charts. It might be possible to find hangar space or to
> get permission for a single use opportunity.
AOPA has some of these listed in a separate section of their
AirportsUSA
George R. Patterson III
>
> How many on the NG use the A/FD regularly?
I use AOPA's "Aviation USA".
> Does your State provide a State aeronautical map and/or State airport
> directory? How helpful have you found these items to be?
New Jersey provides a directory. It contains aerial photos of many of
the airports, and these can be pretty useful. I have no idea where mine
is, however, which gives you some idea of the value I place on it. North
Carolina provides a chart of the State, which is a copy of the sectional
charts involved. It's nice because the entire State is on one side, but
it has no extra info and may be out of date before it's released.
> I wish that private a/p's at least had contact data and status (club
> owned, private individual, commercial operation, etc.) listed, when they
> show up on the charts.
This information is in AOPA's book.
George Patterson, N3162Q.
Will Flor
>> Does your State provide a State aeronautical map and/or State airport
>> directory? How helpful have you found these items to be?
Wisconsin's State Aeronautical Chart is too small to be extremely useful, but
it does show the entire state on one piece of paper. It shows some private
airports that aren't on the sectional, and vice-versa.
-Will Flor wi...@will-flor.spamblock.com
Appropriately adjust my return address to reach me via e-mail.
Ron Natalie
"George R. Patterson III" wrote:
>
> jack wrote:
> >
> > How many on the NG use the A/FD regularly?
>
> I use AOPA's "Aviation USA".
While Aviation USA is a good way to get phone numbers, it's useless
(and dangerous) to use for flight information. You can't even trust
it to tell you the real story on fuel and such at the airport due
to the sort of bogus way they collect the data.
Bob Chilcoat
IMHO the A/FD would be a lot more useful if it showed an airport diagram
like Aviation USA. Yes, it's the legal source of info, but I always
have to look in Aviation USA or scrounge a look at someone's Jepp guide
to feel comfortable going somewhere I've never been before. Of course,
as a student, that means almost everywhere :-)
Bob
Ron Natalie
Bob Chilcoat wrote:
>
> IMHO the A/FD would be a lot more useful if it showed an airport diagram
> like Aviation USA.
Those are poor reproductions of the ones from the NOS approach plates.
If you want pictures, get an airport guide from Airguide Publications
or Jeppesen. AviationUSA only has pictures of airports for which there
are instrument approaches.
jack
> IMHO the A/FD would be a lot more useful if it showed an airport
> diagram....
The A/FD series is slowly but surely adding a/p diagrams as they update a
particular listing. They have been at it less than a year, I believe, and
there are relatively few, at least in the EC region.
Steven P. McNicoll
jack <bar...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>
> How many on the NG use the A/FD regularly?
>
I do.
>
> Does your State provide a State aeronautical map and/or State airport
> directory? How helpful have you found these items to be?
>
Wisconsin distributes a free aeronautical chart through state FBOs, they're
nice for planning purposes. They also provide a very nice state airport
directory free to registered aircraft owners, I believe it's $5.00
otherwise.
Steven P. McNicoll
>
> The A/FD series is slowly but surely adding a/p diagrams
> as they update a particular listing. They have been at it less
> than a year, I believe, and there are relatively few, at least in
> the EC region.
>
I believe the airport diagrams are being added only for airports without
SIAPs, as those with SIAPs already have them published as part of the
approach plate.
Jeff Meeker
<sandy....@sdrc.com> wrote:
>Ron Natalie wrote:
>>
>> "George R. Patterson III" wrote:
>> >
>> > jack wrote:
>> > >
>> > > How many on the NG use the A/FD regularly?
>> >
>> > I use AOPA's "Aviation USA".
>>
>> While Aviation USA is a good way to get phone numbers, it's useless
>> (and dangerous) to use for flight information. You can't even trust
>> it to tell you the real story on fuel and such at the airport due
>> to the sort of bogus way they collect the data.
>
>
>Even the Jeppesen databases must be taken with a grain of salt. The
>database for FliteStar state that Clermont Co Airport (I69) has a
>restaurant called "Windows on the Runway" on the field. I fly out of
>I69 and the restaurant is the second floor of the FBO building that
>has 6 vending machines. They do not serve breakfast, lunch, and dinner
>as stated in the database. They do, however, have free hotdogs and
>brats
>for Staturday lunches.
>
>The information about hotels, FBOs, and restaurants are the most
>volatile
>in the databases.
>
>Sandy
Well, this type of info is likely to change a lot, and really isn't a
factor in safety of flight. Always best to call ahead to check
facilities (FBOs, Hotels, etc)
Jeff
Jeff Meeker
wrote:
>How many on the NG use the A/FD regularly?
everytime I fly to a new field or to a field I haven't been to
recently. (like since the last update) For local flights, I don't
check it.
>Does your State provide a State aeronautical map and/or State airport
>directory? How helpful have you found these items to be?
I have not seen any for Texas, which seems odd since we have so many
airports.
>I use the A/FD whenever I go to a new airport or need to review any of
>the a/p data for places I haven't been lately. I find a/p's on the State
>charts that do not show up on the Fed charts, but have not yet found any
>a/p's on the charts that do not show up in the A/FD, except for
>private/restricted a/p's.
>
>I wish that private a/p's at least had contact data and status (club
>owned, private individual, commercial operation, etc.) listed, when they
>show up on the charts. It might be possible to find hangar space or to
>get permission for a single use opportunity.
>
Check http://www.airnav.com for info on private strips.
>Jack
Nonspam
TA-like chart. The chart excerpts the areas in and around major airports at
twice the scale (larger) of a terminal area chart. Makes it easier to see how
to get in, under, and around the Class B areas. They do mark the charts as
"not for navigation" but they seem to be identical (other than scale) to the
official charts.
-- Ed.
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> SIAPs, as those with SIAPs already have them published as part of the
> approach plate.
The new AFD does have diagrams for airports with Inst App,
Oxford in Ct per example.
Todd Smith
Steven P. McNicoll
Mike Beede <mbe...@ciprico.com> wrote in message
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>
> P.S., If anyone wants to know where to get the Minnesota directory, all
> I know is it's published by the Minnesota DOT and I got mine free at
> some aviation thing in Minneapolis. I think they're always free.
>
They give away a bunch of 'em at the EAA convention every year.
Scott H. Settlemier
airports, but I might update that software (DigAV-Spotter
at http://www.digav.com) to include the private use
airports too if there is interest in that.
Scott sup...@digav.com
In article <37D5CE20...@earthlink.net>, bar...@earthlink.net wrote:
>How many on the NG use the A/FD regularly?
>
>Does your State provide a State aeronautical map and/or State airport
>directory? How helpful have you found these items to be?
>
>I use the A/FD whenever I go to a new airport or need to review any of
>the a/p data for places I haven't been lately. I find a/p's on the State
>charts that do not show up on the Fed charts, but have not yet found any
>a/p's on the charts that do not show up in the A/FD, except for
>private/restricted a/p's.
>
>I wish that private a/p's at least had contact data and status (club
>owned, private individual, commercial operation, etc.) listed, when they
>show up on the charts. It might be possible to find hangar space or to
>get permission for a single use opportunity.
>
>
>Jack