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Les Kearney

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Feb 8, 2002, 10:36:51 AM2/8/02
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Hi

I recently made a control gust lock for my Piper Chreokee. It is very
low cost and very effective. It keeps the controls centered and
immoveable without put any undue strain on the yokes.

If you are interested, you can see a picture and a sketch at:

http://www.kookamunga.net

Cheers

Les Kearney
PA28/180C
C-GEKF


Ryan Abel

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Feb 8, 2002, 3:01:19 PM2/8/02
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I have a Cherokee 180C as well and either side's (pilot or passenger)
seatbelts are a little too tight when using them as a control lock.
However, if I used the right side of the Pilot's and the left side of the
Passenger's, it seems to work fine. But I do like the idea of a control
lock. Is there any disadvantage to using the seatbelt method?

Thanks,
-Ryan


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Northwest School of Aviation

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Feb 8, 2002, 3:41:26 PM2/8/02
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My airplane has a factory gust lock, BUT, where did you get the aftermarket
yokes? They look great!
Thanks
Dave Wheeler
www.NorthwestSchoolofAviation.com
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Dave Butler

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Feb 8, 2002, 4:18:15 PM2/8/02
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Ryan Abel wrote:
>
> Is there any disadvantage to using the seatbelt method?
>
The seatbelt method locks the controls with the trailing
edge of the elevator up. The drain holes are in the trailing
edge, so it's possible to accumulate water inside the
elevator, which can freeze. Also you're more susceptible to
upset on the ground from a wind gust with the elevator up.

Dave

Piper News Reader

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Feb 8, 2002, 4:44:54 PM2/8/02
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I bought a really nice made "lock" that bridges between the yokes with a web and buckle
loop to center the ailerons, and snaps to the panel to keep the yokes full in. I cannot remember
the company name but they advertise in TAP and most Owner Mags :-(

It is expensive for what it is (maybe $30 from memory) but works well. You could do the same thing
wrapping bungees between the yokes and then around the rudder pedals for $3-4, but it would
not look as nice ;-)

PhilT
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N9312P PA24-260C

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Stan Prevost

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Feb 8, 2002, 6:52:11 PM2/8/02
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In my Saratoga (just a Cherokee on steroids), I use a bungee cord. One end
hooks to one rudder pedal (or the brake lever attached thereto), I bring it
up to the yoke, loop it around one horn, across to and around the other,
then down to the other pedal or brake lever. It is a fairly large bungee,
holds well, the yoke is fully in (elevator down) so it is not being pulled
down like with the seatbelt. Costs about a buck. I store it under the
right front seat, it installs and removes in a jiffy.

Stan Prevost

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Les Kearney

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Feb 8, 2002, 7:28:15 PM2/8/02
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Ryan

Until I made my control lock, I used seat belts as well. What it did
do was keep the controls off center and full back. This just seemed
neater and it was a snap to make. It cost about $5.00 for the bits and
pieces and took only 30 minutes to make.

Cheers

Les

PaulaJay1

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Feb 9, 2002, 11:31:42 AM2/9/02
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In article <u68p87s...@corp.supernews.com>, "Stan Prevost"
<spre...@knology.net> writes:

>In my Saratoga (just a Cherokee on steroids), I use a bungee cord.

For my Archer I use the bungee cord approach, too.
I put a loop around the right horn of the pilot yoke, go under the brake lever
and back up the the left horn of the passanger yoke. This gives stability to
the ailerons as well as puts the control full forward.
Chuck

loww...@mypiper.net

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Feb 11, 2002, 3:09:44 AM2/11/02
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I use a $2 bungee cord around both inside yoke horns with the yokes
full in. No excess tension on the yokes and no control movement, even
with gusts over 50mph this weekend,

On Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:36:51 GMT, kear...@home.com (Les Kearney)
wrote:

Piper News Reader

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Feb 11, 2002, 9:04:36 AM2/11/02
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The "high price" but pretty Piper gust lock is at

http://www.airplanethings.com/

The redeeming feature IMO is one does not need to try bending down to the
rudder pedals. When you are young that is easier than when you are older ;-)

Philt
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N9312P PA24-260C


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Ryan Abel

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Feb 11, 2002, 11:41:53 AM2/11/02
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Well, after reading this thread and realizing that the seat-belt method is
not a good way to lock the controls, I made my own gust lock. I wanted it
to hold the controls forward and be easy to remove without having to go
through the rudder pedals like some mentioned doing with a bungee cord. I
wanted to clip it somewhere under the switch panel, so thought I would have
to figure out a good clip, etc. But when browsing Wal-Mart, I found a Car
Luggage Rack strap that was perfect and already had a spring-loaded clip.
So I bought that for $7 and cut it, put on some Velcro and now have a gust
lock. You can see it at http://www.baypc.com/airplane/gustlock.asp

Thanks for the post, Les. I probably would still be using the seat-belt
method had it not been for you.

-Ryan

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Les Kearney

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Feb 11, 2002, 8:48:12 PM2/11/02
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Phil

My $5.00 solution is similar in that it doesn't require use of a
bungee cord to the rudder pedals. Actually, I prefer the webbing with
a CAM lock as there is no continuous tension on the controls at any
time. My orginal design was similar to the airplanethings design
except that I didn't like having to "pull" the yokes together to tie
them off. To keep it snug also meant having to "pull" the yokes
forward to the panel.

I just recut the webbing, added velco and got the fianl result.

Using the dowel to provide horizontal rigidity means the yokes are not
under tension. I just "snug" the yokes forward so there is no slack.

But then again, to each thier own. I made this on a lark when I was
grounded due to -40c weather.

Cheers

Les Kearney
PA28/180C
C-GEKF

http://www.kookamunga.net

PaulaJay1

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Feb 12, 2002, 12:13:52 PM2/12/02
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In article <3c687203.253063698@news>, av8...@kookamunga.net (Les Kearney)
writes:

>But then again, to each thier own. I made this on a lark when I was
>grounded due to -40c weather.
>

Interesting trivia, Les. When you say -40 degrees, you don't have to say "C"
since it's the same as "F". Either way, it's to damn cold!
Chuck

Les Kearney

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Feb 13, 2002, 8:54:23 AM2/13/02
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Chuck,

You are very, very wrong. It would have to warm up to be just "damn
cold".

..Les

Les Kearney

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Feb 15, 2002, 9:00:34 AM2/15/02
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Dave

I got them from Aircraft Spruce. They are aftermarket yokes for a
Navion (STC'd) that many Piper owners have installed via the 337
route. They are a breeze to install. Just look for "Control Wheels" on
their website: www.aircraftspruce.com. They are called ACS control
wheels. The more expensive ones ($136) have cavities for PTT, A/P
disconnect and xpndr ident.

Les Kearney
PA28/180C
C-GEKF

http://www.kookamunga.net

Frank Miller

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Feb 17, 2002, 10:19:44 PM2/17/02
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The benefit of the -40° temperature at that it can't snow!

Some folks in the South think the 32° F is cold. Compared to -40°, it's the
HOT end of cold!


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