Hangar Winch
Bob Dieter
hangar and a lineman's help is appreciated on the pushback. But on
solo efforts, late in the evening, especially on snow or ice, a winch
would be nice. Does anyone have plans on how to make a winch, or a
"winch-kit", or any other solutions?
Ron Natalie
The ones I've seen just use a which as sold for mounting on front
of off road vehicles. You'll either want a remote control or some
sort of fail safe device to stop it while you are using the tow bar
to steer the nosewheel. The other interesting thing is finding a
good place to hook it to, on many planes the tail tie down ring isn't
a real good thing to be dragging the plane by. A friend of mine
has fit a Y harness on his winch so he can pull by the main gear.
Michael Horwith
http://www.allenmachineco.com/pages/data/airplane.htm
I bought it about three years ago for around $200. It pulls my 182 back into
the hanger with no problem, and has saved my back many times - especially on
those days when there is snow in front of my north-facing hanger. It comes
with a 75 foot cord for the switch, which is barely long enough - might be
worth getting a little longer cord or the remote control. Also, the spool
isn't really big enough for 120' of cable - I cut off about 50' to keep it
from coming off the spool.
All I did was bolt it down into the asphalt floor of the hanger. It isn't
the strongest method, but pulling an airplane doesn't really strain the
mounts very much.
Michael
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OSKI 3
putting the Tiger away. This tool
Company I think it is Northeast or
Northwestern sends out catalogs
every two days to people at my Airport. I found a 115V lift for
$125 bucks. I installed a 2x4
frame and hung the lift from it.
The short up and down control
would have taken buku wire so:
I fabricated a twine actuated lever
which reaches to the front of the
plane and she can ease it back and
still steer the towbar. We use the
Tiedown ring on the Tail to pull on.
It does not put too much strain on
the ring since the plane rolls easily.
If you can't find this unit. Send me
E-mail and I will get the numbers
for you. I can also show you my
kludge for operation if you want it.
Good luck with your project.
Bill Oparowski
N10SX
Jim Weir
Oh WINCH. Sorry, can't help you there.
{;-)
Jim
Jim Fisher
> "winch-kit", or any other solutions?
My hangar has a manual boat winch bolted to the back wall. It's the same
kinda winch you see on a boat trailer to pull the boat from the water onto
the trailer.
It's slow as hell to crank a plane in that way but it does work in a pinch.
I've used it once just to see how bad it worked. But the previous hangar
occupant was an old fart who used it all the time.
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Jim Fisher
Cherokee 180
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Tina Marie
Jim Fisher <GOSPAM....@hiwaay.net> wrote:
>My hangar has a manual boat winch bolted to the back wall. It's the same
>kinda winch you see on a boat trailer to pull the boat from the water onto
>the trailer.
I had one of those when I had a tailwheel. It worked great. I think it
was about $30 at a marine store.
Tina Marie
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Drew Daglish
one look for a 2 speed model.
Drew Dalgleish
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wrote:
Richard L. Watson
Their number is 800-756-1414
I have seen adds for a plane winch in Trade-a-plane. I use
a power tow from Idaho and love it. Have had it for 6
years. But, I am not sure it would push uphill on snow.
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Richard
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Clyde
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sit inside and take care of the paper work.
Richard L. Watson
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Bob Dieter
outside, and you have been flying solo, you need a winch.
n19346
> I was trying to be really clear. Late in the evening, when it is cold
> outside, and you have been flying solo, you need a winch.
Ya, yer right, laddy, just hang a left on down the street into thee old pub
and fetch one, or even two if your heart desire's. You can even take them
home if you like, just make sure you lock thee old lady up in the outhouse,
and the next day when you let her out make sure your shooting iron is well
hid and no knives are laying around.
Good luck & I hope you sleep well the following nites.
Clyde
Captain Bill & Miss Frances
winch. As far as flying solo ~ gueeze, that's just too much information
for me.
Boulton
searched all the catalogs and didn't see what I wanted.
I bought the Allen Machine Co. winch from a Trade-A-Plane ad.
I bolted it to the floor at the rear of the hangar
Drilled a hole in the concrete, put a lead anchor, and set an eye
screw in front of the winch's spool to act as a cable guide. (like a
bait casting reel)
The 120' of cable (extra purchase) that Allen sells is more than we
need, but it's all on the spool. It wouldn't hurt to cut 30-40' off of
it.
I painted a yellow centerline stripe from the hangar onto the ramp
area to use in alignment as I'm on the front of the plane with a
towbar during the winch operation.
I didn't like the idea of the 75' cable switch. I went to Vellmans
website (search: Vellmans) and found an remote control garage door
transmitter/receiver kit.
The winch is rated at 10 or 11 amps, and the Vellman kit's relay is
good for something like five amps. I ordered a 12 volt relay with 15
amp contacts at a local electronics shop (not Radio Shack).
Then I tore apart an old 120volt - 12v DC current transformers, like
one that might come with a cordless phone base unit. I took the
salvaged transformer, the 15amp relay, the completed kit's circuit
board, and put it all into a plastic project box I got at the
electronics store. Now I could plug the receiver into the wall outlet
obviating the need for batteries, and wired 120v through the relay to
operate the winch.
It works perfectly.
Ron Rosenfeld
Neat method of setting it up.
Were you able to find it for less money in Trade-a-Plane? On their
website, the winch is listed at $300 (not the $200 quoted earlier).
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
Ken Read
free-wheel. The free wheel is a must as you pull the cable out by hand.
It runs on 110AC. I just flip the switch and watch it go. It is a
little bit slow, but it works great. Cost about $400 Can, so cut that
in half for US.
Ken
Mike Schumann
know where to start.
Thanks,
Mike Schumann
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Boulton
It's a Dutch company....they've got a lot of kit products if you like
to heat up a soldering iron.
You need two kits: K6708 & K6709
I think I paid $270 dollars for the winch. With the cable, and the
Velleman kits, I spent about $400 putting the entire package together.
It's not fast on the retrieve, but it's much better than pushing a
Comanche with 90 gallons of gas uphill. It freespools when you pull
the cable out to the plane.
Allen Machine Co. literature cautions against using the tail tie down
to pull the plane. They show some slings you can rig. They seemed
awkward and difficult. I called the International Comanche Society
maintenance guru and asked about the tail tie down strength. He said
it was definitely strong enough. I am just careful to make sure the
tail is aligned with the winch spool so I'm not imposing side loads.
James M. Knox
> Allen Machine Co. literature cautions against using the tail tie down
> to pull the plane. They show some slings you can rig. They seemed
> awkward and difficult. I called the International Comanche Society
> maintenance guru and asked about the tail tie down strength. He said
> it was definitely strong enough. I am just careful to make sure the
> tail is aligned with the winch spool so I'm not imposing side loads.
I was concerned about the tail ring on my Arrow and decided that it was not
strong enough (at least, not for me to feel comfortable using it). So I
rigged a "Y" cable with a roller at the center. The top limbs of the Y go
to the underwing tiedowns which are much stronger, and the winch (pulling
on the tail) will tend to self-center the aircraft and suck it right back
in - neat as a pin.
Having said all that, I know several folks who have used the tail ring on
somewhat lighter Cessnas for years without any apparent problem.
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James M. Knox
TriSoft ph 512-385-0316
1109-A Shady Lane fax 512-366-4331
Austin, Tx 78721 jk...@trisoft.com
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dutch
to the back of the hangar, tie block to the tail hook, and drag the loose
end. It multiplies your effort x 2 and allows you to stand inside the
hangar. You may have to tweak the nose gear once or twice.
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Try Harbor Freight for winches.
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