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btobias

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Mar 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/13/96
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I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year and I
remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in respect to
DC-3, DC-10 and etc. Can anyone shed more light on it since I didn't get
that full answer. I remember that many people had varied answers...


bto...@world-net.net

Ron Natalie

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Mar 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/13/96
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btobias (bto...@world-net.net) wrote:
: I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year and I
: remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in respect to
: DC-3, DC-10 and etc. Can anyone shed more light on it since I didn't get
: that full answer. I remember that many people had varied answers...

Douglas Craft. Evidentally the McDonnell side of the company finally got
PO'd and made them switch to MD prefixes (who knows what is going to happen
with the more recent mergers).

-Ron

Craig Wall

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Mar 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/13/96
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In article <4i6v9d$7...@topaz.sensor.com>, r...@topaz.sensor.com says...

>Douglas Craft.


Close. Douglas, *Cargo*, as in C-47 (also known as a DC-3)

C for cargo, like P for pursuit, A for attack, F for fighter, etc...


Craig Wall


Dave Pinella

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Mar 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/13/96
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DC = Douglas Commercial

Mark Ambrose

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Mar 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/13/96
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In article <31470D...@world-net.net> btobias <bto...@world-net.net> writes:
>From: btobias <bto...@world-net.net>
>Subject: What Does DC Stand For?
>Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:02:32 -0800

>I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year and I
>remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in respect to
>DC-3, DC-10 and etc. Can anyone shed more light on it since I didn't get
>that full answer. I remember that many people had varied answers...


>bto...@world-net.net

I always thought it stood for "Douglas Commercial". Seems I heard that on one
of the wings series on the Discovery channel.

Mark Ambrose

C. Marin Faure

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Mar 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/13/96
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In article <31470D...@world-net.net>, btobias <bto...@world-net.net> wrote:

> I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year and I
> remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in respect to
> DC-3, DC-10 and etc. Can anyone shed more light on it since I didn't get
> that full answer. I remember that many people had varied answers..

I believe it stands (stood) for Douglas Corporation (or possibly
Company). It may also have stood for Douglas Commercial. "MD" as in
MD-11, stands for McDonnell/Douglas.

C. Marin Faure
author, Flying A Floatplane

Vince Horan

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Mar 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/13/96
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It is incredible that the first four postings I see give four different
answers. The correct answer 'Douglas Commercial' was given though.

To give some authority to my answer, I quote from the Air Britain DC-3
Monograph by J.M.G.Gradidge/Air Britain.

".... The first reaction came from TWA on 2nd August 1932 when Jack
Frye, Vice President and Chief of Operations, put out a specification
for a three-engined transport to the Douglas Aircraft Company of Santa
Monica, California. Douglas assigned Chief Designer Kindelberger and
assistant AE Raymond to the task.
The result was the Douglas Commerical One or DC-1 outline which was
******************
presented to TWA president Richard Robins...."


Thanks Air Britain!
--
Vince Horan

Kyle B. Russell

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Mar 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/13/96
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In article <31470D...@world-net.net>,
btobias <bto...@world-net.net> wrote:
>I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year and I
>remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in respect to
"DOUGLAS COMMERCIAL"
From when it was the proud Douglas Aircraft Company, before being dragged
down by the McDonald buyout.

Ryan Healy

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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btobias <bto...@world-net.net> wrote:

-=>I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year and I
-=>remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in respect to
-=>DC-3, DC-10 and etc. Can anyone shed more light on it since I didn't get
-=>that full answer. I remember that many people had varied answers...


The "D" stands for DOUGLAS, the maker of the aircraft; the "C" stands
for COMMERCIAL, the division of Douglas that manufactured the
aircraft.

Blue Skies,

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Jim Kerns

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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Ron Natalie (r...@topaz.sensor.com) wrote:
: btobias (bto...@world-net.net) wrote:
: : I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year and I
: : remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in respect to

: Douglas Craft. Evidentally the McDonnell side of the company finally got

Douglas Comercial

Jim ! Free advice is often not worth what you
aq...@detroit.freenet.org ! paid for it.

Owen Smith

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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'C' as in C-47 stands for 'Cargo', and this is a military designation.
'C' as in DC-3 stands for 'Commercial', and 'DC' stands for 'Douglas
Commercial, this is a civil designation. The DC-3 was originally
designed to be an airliner, not a cargo aircraft, though it excels at
both.

Owen Smith

J. Kevin Clifford

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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In article <31470D...@world-net.net>, btobias <bto...@world-net.net> says:
>
>what does "DC" mean in respect to DC-3, DC-10 and etc.

DC as in DC-3 or DC-10 stands for Douglas Corp. After Douglas and McDonnel
merged and formed McDonnel-Douglas the aircraft produced became MD, as in
MD-80 and MD-11.

Kevin :--)
Only the nose knows!

J. Kevin Clifford

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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In article <4i762r$h...@sun2.ccf.swri.edu>, cw...@swri.edu (Craig Wall) says:
>
>Close. Douglas, *Cargo*, as in C-47 (also known as a DC-3)
>
> C for cargo, like P for pursuit, A for attack, F for fighter, etc...
>
Craig, you are right: you are close. DC stands for Douglas Corp., B for
Boeing in the civilian aircraft world.

In the Air Force world C is for cargo the 47 is for the 47th design.

The Douglas Corp. civilian DC-3 became the military C-47. The civilian
DC-10 became the military KC-10A. (K=Tanker: primary mission C=Cargo:
secondary mission.)

Kevin :--)
Only the nose knows! :--)

Ron Natalie

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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J. Kevin Clifford (kcl...@oknet.com) wrote:

: DC as in DC-3 or DC-10 stands for Douglas Corp. After Douglas and McDonnel


: merged and formed McDonnel-Douglas the aircraft produced became MD, as in
: MD-80 and MD-11.

Actually, it was McDonnell-Douglas from the DC-9 on, but they didn't
get into the retro naming until they decided to convince people that
the MD-80 wasn't just the same old DC-9 Super 80.

-Ron


Ron Natalie

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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Vince Horan (Ho...@bandce.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: It is incredible that the first four postings I see give four different

: answers. The correct answer 'Douglas Commercial' was given though.

You're right of course.

-Ron

rockman

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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>
>I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year and I

>remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in respect
to

>DC-3, DC-10 and etc. Can anyone shed more light on it since I didn't
get

>that full answer. I remember that many people had varied answers...
>
>

>bto...@world-net.net


Thats too easy.....Douglas Commercial.
MM

Tom Vaughan

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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DC = Douglas Commercial .

C. Wheeler

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roc...@ix.netcom.com(rockman) wrote:
>In <31470D...@world-net.net> btobias <bto...@world-net.net> writes:
>
>>
>>I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year and I
>>remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in respect
>to
>>DC-3, DC-10 and etc. Can anyone shed more light on it since I didn't
>get
>>that full answer. I remember that many people had varied answers...
>>
>>
>>bto...@world-net.net
>
>
>Thats too easy.....Douglas Commercial.


Too easy huh? I thought is was Douglas Company.

Laren Ambrose

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Mar 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/14/96
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btobias (bto...@world-net.net) wrote:
: I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year and I
: remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in respect to
: DC-3, DC-10 and etc. Can anyone shed more light on it since I didn't get
: that full answer. I remember that many people had varied answers...


McDonnel Douglas Corporation ? Sorry about the spelling. I work up here
in Boeing country.

Laren Ambrose FAA, SEA-ACO
Seattle Aircraft Certification Office
(206) 227 2956 laren_...@mail.hq.faa.gov
** My comments are from me, not the FAA **


Mike Bevan

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Mar 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/15/96
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And the winner, by a landslide (and a reference) is
"Douglas Commercial"

Quick, somebody put it in the FAQ. :-)
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CRAN...@rcrandal.wrc.xerox.com

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In Article<4i7vkn$n...@gaudi.lahabra.chevron.com>, <cwhe...@ccnet.com>
write:

> btobias <bto...@world-net.net> writes:
> >
> >>
> >>I have just recently been back up on the net after about a year
and I
> >>remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in
respect
> >to
> >>DC-3, DC-10 and etc. Can anyone shed more light on it since I
didn't
> >get
> >>that full answer. I remember that many people had varied
answers...
> >>
> >>
> >>bto...@world-net.net
> >
> >
> >Thats too easy.....Douglas Commercial.
>
>
> Too easy huh? I thought is was Douglas Company.
>
>
OK - I'll jump in - some years ago - I believe in the DC-3 50th
anniversary issue (1985 - Flying?) - I recall that it was "Direct
Control"

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Craig Wall

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Mar 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/15/96
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In article <3148A24C...@mprgate.mpr.ca>, osm...@mprgate.mpr.ca says...

>'C' as in DC-3 stands for 'Commercial'


..as I (belatedly) now see...and also finally remembered reading
somewhere, way back when....


Craig Wall


David Lednicer

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Mar 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/19/96
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Before the Douglas A-20 Havoc was accepted into USAAF service, it was
called the DB-7, in French and British service. As "DC" DOES stand for
Douglas Commercial, I would guess that "DB" stood for Douglas Bomber.

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Yves E. Hoebeke

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Mar 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/19/96
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>>: It is incredible that the first four postings I see give four
>>different
>>: answers. The correct answer 'Douglas Commercial' was given
>>though.

>You're right of course.

Great, now we all know what 'DC' and 'MD' stand for, now, does
anyone know what is the meaning of the corresponding numbers?

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Ron Natalie

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Mar 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/19/96
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Yves E. Hoebeke (7413...@CompuServe.COM) wrote:


: Great, now we all know what 'DC' and 'MD' stand for, now, does

: anyone know what is the meaning of the corresponding numbers?

They are sequential. I don't know about DC-1, but from 2-11 were
commercial aircraft. I've personally flown in 3's, 8's, 9's and 10's.

The MD-80 is just a remarketing of the DC-9-80 (the super 80). I suppose
this was done because DC-9's are getting to be real old now.

-Ron

Owen Smith

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Mar 19, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/19/96
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John Prickett wrote:
>
> >remember a discussion around here about what does "DC" mean in
> >respect to DC-3, DC-10 and etc. Can anyone shed more light on it
> >since I didn't get that full answer. I remember that many people
> >had varied answers...
> >> >>
> >> >Thats too easy.....Douglas Commercial.
> >>
> >> Too easy huh? I thought is was Douglas Company.
> >>
> >OK - I'll jump in - some years ago - I believe in the DC-3 50th
> >anniversary issue (1985 - Flying?) - I recall that it was "Direct
> >Control"
> >
> nah, yer all wrong. it's 'direct current'. see, some aircraft
> use 400 cycle 3-phase for their electrical systems, but douglas
> used Dry Cells (another meaning of dc). the number indicated
> the voltage of the bus, hence 'DC-3' used a 3 volt bus, 'DC-10'
> used a 10 volt bus, etc.
>
> obligatory smiley :-)
>
> john
>
> --
> 'this place is full of yahoos' -- jonathon swift
> john.p...@amd.com

The first guy was right it is Douglas Commercial. Douglas Commercial 1,2
etc. What company would name their aircraft after their control system
or electrical sytstem.

- The Douglas Commercial 3
- The Direct Control 3
- The Direct Current 3

Which sounds right?? I wonder.

Check out http://soho.ios.com/%7Ealstone/md.htm


Owen Smith

Rich Ahrens

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Mar 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/20/96
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Owen Smith (osm...@mprgate.mpr.ca) wrote:
: The first guy was right it is Douglas Commercial. Douglas Commercial 1,2

: etc. What company would name their aircraft after their control system
: or electrical sytstem.
: - The Douglas Commercial 3
: - The Direct Control 3
: - The Direct Current 3
: Which sounds right?? I wonder.

Jeez, lighten up. He even signalled the joke with an "obligatory
smiley," labeled as such, and you still took it seriously?

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Owen Smith

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Mar 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/20/96
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The DC-1 was the Douglas aircraft response to American Airlines request
for a new airliner. I believe because of advancing technology, there
was only one DC-1 made, with effort then being put into the more
advanced DC-2. A few hundred DC-2's were made I believe. The DC-2 then
grew into the famous DC-3. The DC-4 was a four engined tricicle
configured airliner. The DC-5 resembled the DHC-4 Caribou but was not
produced in great numbers. The DC-6 and -7 were similar but larger than
the -4. The DC-8 was a four engined jet airliner similar to but smaller
than the Boeing 707. The DC-9 was a small airliner with two engines
mounted on either side of the rear fuselage. The DC-10 was a three
engined airliner (ironic considering American originally asked for a
tri-motor when Douglas gave the the twin DC-2,-3) with an engine under
either wing an one mounted seperate from the fuselage (unlike the
Lockheed Tristar) on the vertical fin.

Then we get into the MD-11... etc, aircraft I have yet to figure out.

Owen Smith

ChuckS1067

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Mar 20, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/20/96
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>Subject: Re: What Does DC Stand For?
>From: r...@winternet.com (Rich Ahrens)
>.Date: 20 Mar 1996 04:07:38 GMT
>Message-ID: <4io0aa$a...@blackice.winternet.com>

>Owen Smith (osm...@mprgate.mpr.ca) wrote:
>: The first guy was right it is Douglas Commercial. Douglas Commercial
1,2
>: etc. What company would name their aircraft after their control system

.: or electrical sytstem.
. - The Douglas Commercial 3


>: - The Direct Control 3
>: - The Direct Current 3
>: Which sounds right?? I wonder.

>Jeez, lighten up. He even signalled the joke with an "obligatory
>smiley," labeled as such, and you still took it seriously?

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Hmmm, I was told DC stood for "Don't Crash" ,just goes to show
ya.


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Ron Natalie

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Mar 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/21/96
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Owen Smith (osm...@mprgate.mpr.ca) wrote:

: Then we get into the MD-11... etc, aircraft I have yet to figure out.

The 11 looks like a 10 with winglets. The 80 looks like a DC-9 (cause it
really is).

Yves E. Hoebeke

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Mar 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/21/96
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Owen Smith wrote:
>>What company would name their aircraft after their control
>>system or electrical sytstem.

If that was a question then this:
Actualy Aeronca did. 7AC = Model 7 Aerobatic, Continental engine
Citabria is still designated 7AEC, E added for Electric system.

If this was :-^) then ignore this.



eric...@fwb.gulf.net

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Mar 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/21/96
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> Great, now we all know what 'DC' and 'MD' stand for, now, does
> anyone know what is the meaning of the corresponding numbers?

Just design series numbers

Ogden Johnson III

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Mar 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/21/96
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Owen Smith (osm...@mprgate.mpr.ca) wrote:

: John Prickett wrote:
: >
: > nah, yer all wrong. it's 'direct current'. see, some aircraft

[snip]

: > obligatory smiley :-)

: etc. What company would name their aircraft after their control system
: or electrical sytstem.

[snip]

: - The Direct Current 3


Looks like john prickett wasted a smiley. Sigh.


Jay Hardin

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Mar 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/21/96
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Yves E. Hoebeke <7413...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:

>Owen Smith wrote:
>>>What company would name their aircraft after their control
>>>system or electrical sytstem.
>
>If that was a question then this:
>Actualy Aeronca did. 7AC = Model 7 Aerobatic, Continental engine
>Citabria is still designated 7AEC, E added for Electric system.
>

I think you mean 7ECA, right? Various models of the Citabria have also been
labeled 7KCAB, 7GCAA, and 7GCBC. Any ideas what THOSE mean?

Jay

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Ronald James Wanttaja

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Mar 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/22/96
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In article <4isbat$f...@reznor.larc.nasa.gov>,

Jay Hardin <jha...@avd00.larc.nasa.gov> wrote:
>Yves E. Hoebeke <7413...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>>
>>If that was a question then this:
>>Actualy Aeronca did. 7AC = Model 7 Aerobatic, Continental engine
>
>... Various models of the Citabria have also been

>labeled 7KCAB, 7GCAA, and 7GCBC. Any ideas what THOSE mean?

Not only that, but what about the Franklin-powered resurrection of the
Champ in the early '70s: the 7ACA. Two "A"s, *neither* of them meaning
"aerobatic"....

Ron Wanttaja
want...@halcyon.com


Jay Hardin

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Mar 22, 1996, 3:00:00 AM3/22/96
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want...@coho.halcyon.com (Ronald James Wanttaja) wrote:
>
>Not only that, but what about the Franklin-powered resurrection of the
>Champ in the early '70s: the 7ACA. Two "A"s, *neither* of them meaning
>"aerobatic"....
>

I didn't even realize there WAS a Franklin-powered Champ. I thought the Champ
died out when Bellanca took over the Citabria line in the 60's. Anyone know
how many were built?

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