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Tip-toe visual approach anyone?

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Corwin Nichols

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Apr 10, 1994, 9:04:00 PM4/10/94
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Today while listening to Bay Approach the controller was clearing a lot
of the jets into SFO on a 'tip-toe' visual approach into the 28 runways.
Anyone know what a 'tip-toe' visual approach is? All of the pilots seemed
to know what it means.
Corwin

Len Fishler

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Apr 12, 1994, 12:40:09 PM4/12/94
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It is a charted instrument visual approach. When assigned, the pilot must
maintain visual separation, and follow the course specified by the approach
chart. In this particular case, it involves an initial course defined by
the OAK R151, then a turn onto the I-SFO localizer for RWY 28L. In good
weather, this is a common approach to 28L, with simultaneous approaches to
28R, usually the Quiet Bridge Visual. The charted procedure also specifies
a "missed approach procedure" to be followed in case of a go-round. If you
want more information about these, you can buy a copy of the US Terminal
Procedures at any local pilot shop (supplied by NOAA), or beg an outdated
copy from a pilot that uses these rather than the Jeppeson chart
subscription service.

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Bruce Bateman

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Apr 12, 1994, 3:59:49 PM4/12/94
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As I recall my Jepps, the "tip-toe" approach is one of the charted
visual approaches into SFO.

Bruce Bateman

Jerry Samsen

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Apr 12, 1994, 8:21:48 PM4/12/94
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Check out your Jepp or NOS charts. This approach is described in a
visual approach plate for SFO.

Jerry Samsen

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Lee McGee

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Apr 13, 1994, 6:55:37 PM4/13/94
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In article <2ofdus$9...@btree.brooktree.com>, jer...@btree.brooktree.com (Jerry Samsen) writes:
|> In article <1728100015@cdp>, Corwin Nichols <cor...@igc.apc.org> wrote:
|> >Today while listening to Bay Approach the controller was clearing a lot
|> >of the jets into SFO on a 'tip-toe' visual approach into the 28 runways.
|> >Anyone know what a 'tip-toe' visual approach is? All of the pilots seemed
|> >to know what it means.
|>
|> Check out your Jepp or NOS charts. This approach is described in a
|> visual approach plate for SFO.

Not all of your readers are IFR pilots having collections of Jepp of NOS charts on hand. So do they really spell this approach "tip-toe"???? Is TIPTO
and intersection, like BRINY?

How does a "tip-toe" relate to a "step-down"? Questions abound for the neophyte in aviation matters.

"Check out your Jepp or NOS charts", indeed! After all, the original poster
was just listening in, and trying to learn something about this mysterious
world called "aviation". I would help him if I could...but as your everyday
simple LowTimeVFR pilot, can't.

-- waiting for a flood of people to flame me to get my "fog ticket",
Lee McGee lmc...@corp.sgi.com

Larry Stone

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Apr 14, 1994, 10:52:46 AM4/14/94
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In article <Co7zo...@odin.corp.sgi.com>, lmc...@bondo.corp.sgi.com (Lee McGee) writes:
> Not all of your readers are IFR pilots having collections of Jepp of NOS
> charts on hand. So do they really spell this approach "tip-toe"????
> Is TIPTO and intersection, like BRINY?

I beleive it's TIP TOE (although it may be one word). The meaning is "tip toe
past Foster City - the very residential area immediately adjacent to the outer
marker." It is definitely not TIPTO as it is not referring to an intersection.

The Tip Toe approach is a charted visual approach to 28L. The equivalent to 28R
is the Quiet Bridge approach which calls for the plane to fly down the SFO 095
radial crossing the San Mateo Bridge at the midpoint of the high span.

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Alan Sanderson

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Apr 14, 1994, 2:51:56 PM4/14/94
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I would expect that the term may be "tip-to" in reference to a
wingtip-to-wingtip parallel approach to the two east-west runways.

This is also quite common at Denver's Stapleton airport.


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Rob Strand

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Apr 14, 1994, 4:30:22 PM4/14/94
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>Not all of your readers are IFR pilots having collections of Jepp of NOS charts on hand. So do they really spell this approach "tip-toe"???? Is TIPTO
>and intersection, like BRINY?

Hint: there is another one called Quiet Bridge, and a SID or STAR
called Quiet.one--has to do with noise control.

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Kris Chubb

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Apr 15, 1994, 4:51:58 PM4/15/94
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OK, I'll pick a nit: I'm pretty sure it's TIPP TOE.

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Keith R. Peterson

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Apr 18, 1994, 11:33:58 AM4/18/94
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lmc...@bondo.corp.sgi.com (Lee McGee) writes:

>How does a "tip-toe" relate to a "step-down"? Questions abound for the neophyte in aviation matters.


They have to give these things a name and just have some fun doing it.

I understand that O'Hare has a "Punchout" procedure. Some airport in
New York was said to have a "lowgo". These were both minimum altitude,
head for the nearest airspace border and cancel proceedures.

It's not like an intersection, no limit on characters as I recall.

Great fun for local pilots who wandered into the big airport...

KP
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Aug 13, 2019, 10:40:17 AM8/13/19
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It’s actually spelled Tipp toe
SFO based
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