MiG-29 Fulcrum - What is its Russian name?
TZ
Regaudie) says:
>Hi All,
> Does anyone know the if the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker have
>Russian names? If so, what are they and what do they mean (translated
>to english, of course)?
The story is that the Russians thought the name "Fulcrum" was so neat
when NATO so designated the MiG-29 back in 1980 or so, that they picked it
up for common use themselves. Zubayev talks about it in his book "Fulcrum."
As for the "Flanker," I am unaware of a Russian name.
--TZ--
agr...@opie.bgsu.edu
Sure it is great after Fishbad or Flogger:) I believe MiG-29 called Strizh
(swift), Su-25 Gratch (some kind of raven) and have no idea how Su-27 called.
Alexei
Wayne Regaudie
Does anyone know the if the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker have
Russian names? If so, what are they and what do they mean (translated
to english, of course)?
Wayne Regaudie
VE3THN
Sudbury Ontario Canada
Ka On Lee
> Sure it is great after Fishbad or Flogger:) I believe MiG-29 called Strizh
> (swift), Su-25 Gratch (some kind of raven) and have no idea how Su-27 called.
From my Su-27 photo book published by Osprey, Su-27 is nicknamed
'Zhuravlik' (or crane) in Soviet service.
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Zoltan LAJBER
>
>Wayne Regaudie (rega...@Feldspar.Com) wrote:
>
>: Does anyone know the if the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker have
>: Russian names? If so, what are they and what do they mean (translated
>: to english, of course)?
>
>Western forces have. The rare ones, if any, that may have names are
>exceptions.
I just know one exception: MiG-27 (MiG-23 based strike bird) called "utconos",
this mean "duck beak", because the noise of the MiG-27 contain different (smaller) radar, and cutted for better
outview to ground.
The hungarian pilots use a nickname for MiG-23, but don't so often. This is "bichka", meaning jack-knife,
because the variable wing geometry. Usualy use this name by that pilot, who fly on different plane :-).
Other craft are refered just a type number, like "the 21" for MiG-21.
The last time, when hungarien widely use the nicnk names, was in the WWII. The Me-109 planes nicknamed by type
letter, for example 109G called "Gustav", 109F called "Fritz". After the war, the old pilots, until not
prisoned, try to make names, but not succesfull. The new pilot generetion trained in USSR, forgot all of the
name of the birds and squadrons too. After the change (1989), the squadron began to give back their names,
symbols, painting, etc. But the pilot have some problem at begining, becouse the "eggheads" above them.
Lajbi
agr...@opie.bgsu.edu
> Wayne Regaudie (rega...@Feldspar.Com) wrote:
>
> : Does anyone know the if the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker have
> : Russian names? If so, what are they and what do they mean (translated
> : to english, of course)?
>
> As far as I know, the Russians never bothered to name their planes as
> Western forces have. The rare ones, if any, that may have names are
> exceptions.
>
I don't think it is quite true. If you talking about names given by AirForce,
than probably you are right. But ALL planes had names given by pilots.
Alexei>
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agr...@opie.bgsu.edu
> In article <D9xLo...@coffeehaus.com>, dra...@coffeehaus.com says...
>>
>>Wayne Regaudie (rega...@Feldspar.Com) wrote:
>>
>>: Does anyone know the if the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker have
>>: Russian names? If so, what are they and what do they mean (translated
>>: to english, of course)?
>>
>>As far as I know, the Russians never bothered to name their planes as
>>Western forces have. The rare ones, if any, that may have names are
>>exceptions.
> this mean "duck beak", because the noise of the MiG-27 contain different (smaller) radar, and cutted for better
> outview to ground.
I just happens to know four or five more:)
MiG-23 Krokodil or Chemodan (Krokodial or Trunk)
MiG-27 Utkonos (Avarduck)
Su-25 Gratch (smaller raven)
MiG-21 Balalaika
MiG-29 Strizh (Swift)
Su-27 Zuravlik (Baby Crane)
Again, all those names are not official AirForce names, but names the planes go
by among their pilots and ground crews. It is possible that for some aircrafts
there are more than one name (see MiG-23)
There are much more for VVT and VMF planes, but it is not relevant to this
disscation.
Cheers,
Alexei
Dominique Durocher
: Does anyone know the if the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker have
: Russian names? If so, what are they and what do they mean (translated
: to english, of course)?
As far as I know, the Russians never bothered to name their planes as
Western forces have. The rare ones, if any, that may have names are
exceptions.
Dom
Dmitri Gennadievitch Alex Artemenko
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Celebrate the pain and havoc we have wrought!
Joseph Tolbert
>
>In article <3rbvaq$s...@centre.univ-orleans.fr>, la...@lajli.gau.hu
(Zoltan LAJBER) writes:
>> In article <D9xLo...@coffeehaus.com>, dra...@coffeehaus.com
says...
>>>
>>>
>>>: Does anyone know the if the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker
have
>>>: Russian names? If so, what are they and what do they mean
(translated
>>>: to english, of course)?
>>>
>>>As far as I know, the Russians never bothered to name their planes
as
>>>Western forces have. The rare ones, if any, that may have names are
>>>exceptions.
"utconos",
>> this mean "duck beak", because the noise of the MiG-27 contain
different (smaller) radar, and cutted for better
>> outview to ground.
>
>I just happens to know four or five more:)
>MiG-23 Krokodil or Chemodan (Krokodial or Trunk)
>MiG-27 Utkonos (Avarduck)
>Su-25 Gratch (smaller raven)
>MiG-21 Balalaika
>MiG-29 Strizh (Swift)
>Su-27 Zuravlik (Baby Crane)
>Again, all those names are not official AirForce names, but names the
planes go
>by among their pilots and ground crews. It is possible that for some
aircrafts
>there are more than one name (see MiG-23)
>There are much more for VVT and VMF planes, but it is not relevant to
this
>disscation.
>
>Cheers,
>Alexei
I found this latest information fascinating, since I am an enthusiast
of Russian/Soviet aircraft. I have read that the current crop of
Russian pilots have adopted (unofficially) the NATO code names for the
MiG29 (Fulcrum) and Su27 (Flanker) since these names are a bit classier
than some of the earlier ones NATO provided.
Bill Horne
<la...@lajli.gau.hu> wrote:
>In article <D9xLo...@coffeehaus.com>, dra...@coffeehaus.com
>says...
>>
>>Wayne Regaudie (rega...@Feldspar.Com) wrote:
>>
>>: Does anyone know the if the MiG-29 Fulcrum and Su-27 Flanker
>>have : Russian names? If so, what are they and what do they
>>mean (translated : to english, of course)?
>>
>>As far as I know, the Russians never bothered to name their planes
>>as Western forces have. The rare ones, if any, that may have
>>names are exceptions.
>I just know one exception: MiG-27 (MiG-23 based strike bird) called
>"utconos", this mean "duck beak", because the noise of the MiG-27
>contain different (smaller) radar, and cutted for better outview
>to ground.
On a recent TV program (Wings?), it was stated that the Russians
liked the Nato assigned 'Fulcrum,' and also used this name for
the aircraft.
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