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guy

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Nov 14, 2009, 9:59:54 AM11/14/09
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I am just watching the excellent 12 o'Clock High again, and near the
start the Colnel asks about the weather. The Weather officer replies
it is CABU, which did not go down well as it meant that the weather
was good.
What does CABU stand for?

Guy

Ed Rasimus

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:12:11 AM11/14/09
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You misunderstood. He says CAVU (pronounced CaaVooo) which means
Ceiling and Visibility Unlimited. Aviators may also call it CAVOK,
meaning the weather is OK or a less reverent, CAFB--Clear as a F***ing
Bell.

Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
www.thundertales.blogspot.com
www.thunderchief.org

guy

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Nov 14, 2009, 11:08:54 AM11/14/09
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On 14 Nov, 15:12, Ed Rasimus <rasimusSPAML...@verizon.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 06:59:54 -0800 (PST), guy
>

Thanks Ed, my hearing must be going!

Guy

Paul A. Suhler

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Nov 14, 2009, 10:10:16 PM11/14/09
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Ed Rasimus <rasimus...@verizon.net> wrote:
> You misunderstood. He says CAVU (pronounced CaaVooo) which means
>Ceiling and Visibility Unlimited. Aviators may also call it CAVOK,
>meaning the weather is OK or a less reverent, CAFB--Clear as a F***ing
>Bell.

A.K.A. Severe Clear.


Daryl Hunt

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:07:10 PM11/16/09
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HUH? SPEAK UP, I CAN'T HEAR YOU. SOMEONE ANSWER THAT DAMNED PHONE!!!!!!


Robert Sveinson

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Nov 17, 2009, 12:43:07 AM11/17/09
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"Daryl Hunt" <dh...@i70westnospam.com> wrote in message
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HELLO!

>
>


Dan

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:00:26 PM11/17/09
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"Hello, this is your government. We are here to help you."

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Jim Yanik

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Nov 17, 2009, 1:47:48 PM11/17/09
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Dan <B24...@aol.com> wrote in news:0yBMm.35492$Wd1....@newsfe15.iad:

"This is the Obama administration.We are here to help you."

--
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jyanik
at
localnet
dot com

Glenn Dowdy

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Nov 17, 2009, 4:06:02 PM11/17/09
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"Jim Yanik" <jya...@abuse.gov> wrote in message
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DJI, Oct 2005: 14066
DJI, Mar 2009: 6626
DJI, Nov 2009: 10437

Good Job.

Glenn D.


Robert Sveinson

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Nov 17, 2009, 7:30:49 PM11/17/09
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"Dan" <B24...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Are you here to help me out??? Sadly I cannot
remember my way in!!

Dan

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Nov 17, 2009, 10:19:33 PM11/17/09
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"There is no out, only in" - Number 2, from the current abortion
titled "The Prisoner."

Jeff Crowell

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Nov 18, 2009, 8:55:45 AM11/18/09
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Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "This is the Obama administration.We are here to help you."

Glenn Dowdy wrote:
> DJI, Oct 2005: 14066
> DJI, Mar 2009: 6626
> DJI, Nov 2009: 10437
>
> Good Job.


Yeah. Whew. Now, if only we knew 'why.' Oh, and 'for how long.'
Not that either of those is specifically Obama's pigeon.


Jeff
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To a procrastinator, a lie is just the truth waiting to happen.
C. J. Schoenrock

Jim Yanik

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Nov 18, 2009, 12:22:34 PM11/18/09
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Jeff Crowell <jeff.crow...@hp.com> wrote in
news:he0ucs$cgb$1...@usenet01.boi.hp.com:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>> "This is the Obama administration.We are here to help you."
>
> Glenn Dowdy wrote:
>> DJI, Oct 2005: 14066
>> DJI, Mar 2009: 6626
>> DJI, Nov 2009: 10437
>>
>> Good Job.
>
>
> Yeah. Whew. Now, if only we knew 'why.' Oh, and 'for how long.'
> Not that either of those is specifically Obama's pigeon.
>
>
> Jeff

at one point,the more Obama spoke publicly,the lower the Dow dropped.
I guess,finally,somebody told him to stop being such a downer.

Jeff Crowell

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Nov 19, 2009, 8:14:33 AM11/19/09
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Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>> "This is the Obama administration.We are here to help you."

Glenn Dowdy wrote:
>>> DJI, Oct 2005: 14066
>>> DJI, Mar 2009: 6626
>>> DJI, Nov 2009: 10437
>>>
>>> Good Job.

Jeff Crowell wrote:
>> Yeah. Whew. Now, if only we knew 'why.' Oh, and 'for how long.'
>> Not that either of those is specifically Obama's pigeon.

Jim Yanik wrote:
> at one point,the more Obama spoke publicly,the lower the Dow dropped.
> I guess,finally,somebody told him to stop being such a downer.
>

Hogwash, Jim. To put it politely.

If you want to assign blame where it belongs, you need go no farther
than the preceding president, plus the Wall Street a$$holes who
thought packaging mortgages into securities was a great idea. Oh,
and the banks and investment houses who feasted on them. And,
don't forgot the people who signed for loans they knew they could
never pay.

In short, everyone but me! ;-)


Jeff
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You go to your family reunion to meet girls.

Steve Hix

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Nov 19, 2009, 2:19:38 PM11/19/09
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In article <he3gbr$itd$1...@usenet01.boi.hp.com>,
Jeff Crowell <jeff.crow...@hp.com> wrote:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
> >>>> "This is the Obama administration.We are here to help you."
>
> Glenn Dowdy wrote:
> >>> DJI, Oct 2005: 14066
> >>> DJI, Mar 2009: 6626
> >>> DJI, Nov 2009: 10437
> >>>
> >>> Good Job.
>
> Jeff Crowell wrote:
> >> Yeah. Whew. Now, if only we knew 'why.' Oh, and 'for how long.'
> >> Not that either of those is specifically Obama's pigeon.
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
> > at one point,the more Obama spoke publicly,the lower the Dow dropped.
> > I guess,finally,somebody told him to stop being such a downer.
> >
>
> Hogwash, Jim. To put it politely.
>
> If you want to assign blame where it belongs, you need go no farther
> than the preceding president, plus the Wall Street a$$holes who
> thought packaging mortgages into securities was a great idea. Oh,
> and the banks and investment houses who feasted on them. And,
> don't forgot the people who signed for loans they knew they could
> never pay.

Don't forget the legislators responsible for agressively pushing "loans
for all and sundry even if they can't possible keep up payments, you're
a racist if you resist the notion", who were largely the same bunch
resisting imposing some control over management of FNMA and FHLMC.

Don't forget they were deep into this stuff well before the previous
administration came into office, either.

Glenn Dowdy

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:24:35 PM11/19/09
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"Steve Hix" <se...@NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote in message
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>
> Don't forget the legislators responsible for agressively pushing "loans
> for all and sundry even if they can't possible keep up payments, you're
> a racist if you resist the notion", who were largely the same bunch
> resisting imposing some control over management of FNMA and FHLMC.
>
> Don't forget they were deep into this stuff well before the previous
> administration came into office, either.

Nope, not forgetting those legislators. IIRC, the GOP held the majority or
deciding vote in both houses from 1995 through 2007.

Glenn D.


Jim Yanik

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Nov 19, 2009, 3:44:05 PM11/19/09
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Jeff Crowell <jeff.crow...@hp.com> wrote in
news:he3gbr$itd$1...@usenet01.boi.hp.com:

> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>>>> "This is the Obama administration.We are here to help you."
>
> Glenn Dowdy wrote:
>>>> DJI, Oct 2005: 14066
>>>> DJI, Mar 2009: 6626
>>>> DJI, Nov 2009: 10437
>>>>
>>>> Good Job.
>
> Jeff Crowell wrote:
>>> Yeah. Whew. Now, if only we knew 'why.' Oh, and 'for how long.'
>>> Not that either of those is specifically Obama's pigeon.
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> at one point,the more Obama spoke publicly,the lower the Dow dropped.
>> I guess,finally,somebody told him to stop being such a downer.
>>
>
> Hogwash, Jim. To put it politely.

No,NOT hogwash.
Obama was spouting nothing but gloom and doom,depressing the markets even
more,then somebody told him to stop it.


>
> If you want to assign blame where it belongs, you need go no farther
> than the preceding president, plus the Wall Street a$$holes who
> thought packaging mortgages into securities was a great idea. Oh,
> and the banks and investment houses who feasted on them. And,
> don't forgot the people who signed for loans they knew they could
> never pay.
>
> In short, everyone but me! ;-)
>
>
> Jeff

No,blame DemocRATs Chris Dodd and Barney Frank,who blocked the changes that
Republicans wanted to(TRIED to) make so this would not have happened. I
note that Frank and Dodd are both PROFITING from this,having ties to
Countrywide. Plus,it was the Dems and BJ Clinton who pushed for the lesser
restrictions on the CRA,-forcing- the banks to make high risk loans.

Daryl Hunt

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Nov 20, 2009, 6:42:52 PM11/20/09
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#1 reason not to get rid of the second ammendment

Dan

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Nov 21, 2009, 2:19:10 AM11/21/09
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Look at the bright side, Chuck Schumer and Mayor Daley are blaming
guns for the Ft. Hood shootings.

Glenn Dowdy

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Nov 23, 2009, 11:34:45 AM11/23/09
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"Dan" <B24...@aol.com> wrote in message
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It wasn't the guns, it was the bullets. Sheesh.

Glenn D.


terri....@yahoo.com

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May 23, 2015, 5:54:30 PM5/23/15
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No, your hearing isn't going....I'm watching the movie now, and heard the same, CABU,and had the same question.

Scott M. Kozel

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May 23, 2015, 9:30:19 PM5/23/15
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On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 5:54:30 PM UTC-4, terri....@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> No, your hearing isn't going....I'm watching the movie now, and heard the same, CABU,and had the same question.

Did the B-17 pilots really have those plastic breathing flasks below their masks, that flexed in and out as they breathed?

Peter Stickney

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May 26, 2015, 12:04:36 AM5/26/15
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Scott M. Kozel wrote:

> On Saturday, May 23, 2015 at 5:54:30 PM UTC-4, terri....@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> No, your hearing isn't going....I'm watching the movie now, and heard the
>> same, CABU,and had the same question.

It sounds like you are mishearing "CAVU" (pronounced "ka-voo") - shorthand
for "Ceiling And Visibiity Unlimited"
'B's and 'V's can be easy to conflate.

>
> Did the B-17 pilots really have those plastic breathing flasks below their
> masks, that flexed in and out as they breathed?

ealy B-17 models used a continuous flow oxygen system - sort of like what
they would plug you into at a hospital. In order to keep losses in
breathing oxygen to a minimum, and thus have the onboard supply last longer,
the system had a "rebreather bag". When a human breathes, they only use
about 25% of the oxygen that they inhale. Holding the exhalation and adding
oxygen to make up that difference cuts the usage down a lot.

Early versions oc the continuous flow gaseous oxygem (Liquid Oxygen was used
in the early and Mid 1930s.) used a mask that only covered the crewman's
nose. (Standardized as the A-7) This worked prerry well, and left the mouth
free for talking or eating, but wasn't truly satisfactory. The A-8 Mask,
with the rebreather bag was standardized as its successor.

Thiese were replauced as quickly as possible by Diluter Demand systems, that
added oxygen to outside air coming into the mask, and only added the oxygen
when the crewmwmber was inhaling. The diluter systems would add an
increasing amount of oxygen as the airplane's altitude increased, feeding
100% oxygen automatically at a bit over 32,000'.

Diluter-Demand systems are still in use, not much difference between the
World War 2 systems, and todays.
--
Pete Stickney
Always remember to close all parentheses.
We're not paying to air-condition the entire paragraph.

lwilso...@gmail.com

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Dec 30, 2015, 9:37:33 AM12/30/15
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Nice to know
1) You misheard exactly the same as I did
20 Im not the only person who watches a film with one eye on my google search!

Daryl

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Dec 30, 2015, 6:17:41 PM12/30/15
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NASA jargon. Short for "Clear and Beautiful," referring to the weather
conditions.
CABU, all the way to the moon, Mission Control!

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Ramsman

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Dec 31, 2015, 3:12:34 AM12/31/15
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On 31/12/2015 00:17, Daryl wrote:
> On 12/30/2015 7:37 AM, lwilso...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Saturday, 14 November 2009 14:59:54 UTC, guy wrote:
>>> I am just watching the excellent 12 o'Clock High again, and near the
>>> start the Colnel asks about the weather. The Weather officer replies
>>> it is CABU, which did not go down well as it meant that the weather
>>> was good.
>>> What does CABU stand for?
>>>
>>> Guy
>>
>> Nice to know
>> 1) You misheard exactly the same as I did
>> 20 Im not the only person who watches a film with one eye on my google
>> search!
>>
>
> NASA jargon. Short for "Clear and Beautiful," referring to the weather
> conditions.
> CABU, all the way to the moon, Mission Control!
>

Interesting, but CABU/NASA doesn't apply here, as Twelve O'Clock High
was made in 1949, 9 years before NASA was created from NACA and 19 years
before Apollo 8.

--
Peter

Daryl

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Dec 31, 2015, 3:58:26 AM12/31/15
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Only you can still be fighting a 15 year old fight. CABU means Clearn
and Beautiful. It's a flyer term whether it be USAF, NASA, AAF or
something flying out your ass.

Ramsman

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Dec 31, 2015, 5:08:59 AM12/31/15
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On 31/12/2015 09:58, Daryl wrote:
> On 12/31/2015 1:12 AM, Ramsman wrote:
>> On 31/12/2015 00:17, Daryl wrote:
>>> On 12/30/2015 7:37 AM, lwilso...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> On Saturday, 14 November 2009 14:59:54 UTC, guy wrote:
>>>>> I am just watching the excellent 12 o'Clock High again, and near the
>>>>> start the Colnel asks about the weather. The Weather officer replies
>>>>> it is CABU, which did not go down well as it meant that the weather
>>>>> was good.
>>>>> What does CABU stand for?
>>>>>
>>>>> Guy
>>>>
>>>> Nice to know
>>>> 1) You misheard exactly the same as I did
>>>> 20 Im not the only person who watches a film with one eye on my google
>>>> search!
>>>>
>>>
>>> NASA jargon. Short for "Clear and Beautiful," referring to the weather
>>> conditions.
>>> CABU, all the way to the moon, Mission Control!
>>>
>>
>> Interesting, but CABU/NASA doesn't apply here, as Twelve O'Clock High
>> was made in 1949, 9 years before NASA was created from NACA and 19 years
>> before Apollo 8.
>>
>
> Only you can still be fighting a 15 year old fight. CABU means Clearn
> and Beautiful. It's a flyer term whether it be USAF, NASA, AAF or
> something flying out your ass.
>
>
>
You really are determined to pick a fight, aren't you? I agreed with you
about the meaning of CABU, but was saying that as it seems to have been
coined on the way to the Moon, it didn't exist at the time Twelve
O'Clock High was made.

--
Peter

Daryl

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Dec 31, 2015, 4:33:25 PM12/31/15
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I didn't say any of that. I just came up with the definition only. You
picked this fight. Now, fly up some monkeys ass and be done with it.

Ramsman

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Jan 1, 2016, 4:26:18 AM1/1/16
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Calm down Daryl! There's no fight here; you seem to have misunderstood.

I was simply making a comment for the benefit of the OP that, as far as
I can tell, CABU wouldn't have been used in 1949. If it was first used
in the context of going to the moon, then that wouldn't have been before
1968. If you know something different, then I'd be pleased to hear it.

--
Peter

Daryl

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Jan 1, 2016, 10:29:38 AM1/1/16
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It's a flyers term and predates NASA. There is a good chance it's a
flyers term since it was used in a 1949 movie. And we used it in the
AF. The Internet attributes it to NASA but it probably predates even
NACA. Chances are, it's really attributed to Bombers.

kirk....@gmail.com

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Jan 1, 2016, 11:27:42 AM1/1/16
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I 'm calling shenanigans on "CABU". The term is CAVU, and just because an actor mispronounced it in a movie doesn't change it.
I've been in aviation (military and civilian) for 50 years and have never heard CABU used when it was "clear and a million "!

Darryl, do you have a cite for your NASA reference or are you just bullshitting?

Happy new year!

Kirk

Daryl

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Jan 1, 2016, 3:12:19 PM1/1/16
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CABU is listed in the Urban Dictionary attributing it to NASA during the
Moon shots. I did find that the term may have been misunderstood. They
could also have said CABO which is Spanish for Cape referring to
rounding the Cape.

CAVU is listed as a Meteorological term meaning what you say it does.

CABU seems to have as much going for it as CAVU or CABO. In fact, due
to the movie and NASA, it appears it has more cred than the other two.

CABU
http://definithing.com/cabu/

This is all over the net under various definition sites.

kirk....@gmail.com

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Jan 2, 2016, 11:11:56 AM1/2/16
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On Friday, January 1, 2016 at 2:12:19 PM UTC-6, Daryl wrote:

> CABU is listed in the Urban Dictionary attributing it to NASA during the
> Moon shots. I did find that the term may have been misunderstood. They
> could also have said CABO which is Spanish for Cape referring to
> rounding the Cape.
>
> CAVU is listed as a Meteorological term meaning what you say it does.
>
> CABU seems to have as much going for it as CAVU or CABO. In fact, due
> to the movie and NASA, it appears it has more cred than the other two.
>
> CABU
> http://definithing.com/cabu/

If the only reference is in the urban dictionary, I still have my doubts - it could be a misheard CAVU, just like in 12 oclock high. And it definitely would not have been said in a combat mission weather briefing in 1943!

Cheers,

Kirk

tdacon

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Jan 2, 2016, 12:38:54 PM1/2/16
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If the only reference is in the urban dictionary, I still have my doubts -
it could be a misheard CAVU, just like in 12 oclock high. And it definitely
would not have been said in a combat mission weather briefing in 1943!

I was an Air Force weather observer in the 60's, and I'll vouch for CAVU:
Ceiling And Visibility Unlimited

Tom

tdacon

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Jan 2, 2016, 12:41:28 PM1/2/16
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"tdacon" wrote in message news:n691qe$ghu$1...@dont-email.me...

I was an Air Force weather observer in the 60's, and I'll vouch for CAVU:
Ceiling And Visibility Unlimited

Mind you, it was informal. We never put that expression into an official
weather observation.

Tom

John Weiss

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Jan 2, 2016, 3:26:24 PM1/2/16
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tdacon wrote:

> I was an Air Force weather observer in the 60's, and I'll vouch for
> CAVU: Ceiling And Visibility Unlimited
>
> Mind you, it was informal. We never put that expression into an
> official weather observation.

CAVOK is still a valid ICAO observation.

Geoffrey Sinclair

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Jan 3, 2016, 10:07:24 AM1/3/16
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"tdacon" <Tom-NOSPAM-@-REALLY-dacons.com> wrote in message
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However CAVU as a weather observation is all through WWII USAAF
raid reports/target sheets. The 15th AF reports I have are by group,
so if 6 groups were sent out there are at least 6 entries, the main
attack plus extra entries if some aircraft bombed other targets. For
example on 3 August 1944 the 463rd Group had 1 aircraft attacking
Wenns, 8 attacking Friedrichshafen/Ober Rad (Primary target), 7
attacking Udine, 4 attacking Misc. targets in Italy and 1 attacking
Gorizia, weather is usually only reported for the main target, and on
3 August it is said to be Poor.

The list I have for the 15th AF is incomplete, however of the 2,718
weather at target reports included the top 5 are

693, CAVU
653, Good
226, Poor
223, Clear
215, I

(as in me, myself and I)

Cloud cover in tenths e.g. 1/10 through 10/10 is reported 545 times.

I do not have the 15th Air Force November 1943 raid reports but
CAVU is in the December ones. The conclusion is CAVU is not a
term normally used by the weather people in forecasts but one
regularly used by the air force.

Geoffrey Sinclair
Remove the nb for email.

MARIN...@yahoo.com

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Oct 22, 2016, 2:44:31 AM10/22/16
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On Saturday, November 14, 2009 at 6:59:54 AM UTC-8, guy wrote:
> I am just watching the excellent 12 o'Clock High again, and near the
> start the Colnel asks about the weather. The Weather officer replies
> it is CABU, which did not go down well as it meant that the weather
> was good.
> What does CABU stand for?
>
> Guy

I've been wondering the same thing for years! Ever since I was a kid and I'm 52 now! Thanks for asking that question. And now it's clear as a bell that the weather officer says CAVU. I always thought CABU.

Stephen Wood

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Oct 12, 2022, 3:57:46 AM10/12/22
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I had the same problem and now it makes sense.

A Couple Near Seattle

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Oct 14, 2022, 10:31:53 PM10/14/22
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I see:

ceiling and visibility unlimited

[Abbreviation for ceiling and visibility unlimited (and unrestricted).]
An operational term no longer formally defined in meteorology, but still
commonly used in aviation, that designates a condition wherein the
ceiling is more than 10 000 ft and the visibility is more than 10
miles.Jan 26, 2012

Cavu - Glossary of Meteorologyhttps://glossary.ametsoc.org › wiki › Cavu

CAVU - Urban Dictionaryhttps://www.urbandictionary.com › define › term=CAVU
An acronym used in aviation circles meaning "Ceiling and Visibility
Unlimited." Commonly used by pilots as slang to describe anything that
is desirable or ...


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