Ottawa Air Museum Harrier #

Graham Mansell

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Jul 2, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/2/97

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Someone wanted to know the tail number for the Harrier it is .........
AV-8A 158966, paint is a bit faded but still readable.

Darrell A. Larose

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Jul 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/3/97

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Graham Mansell (cv...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> Someone wanted to know the tail number for the Harrier it is .........
> AV-8A 158966, paint is a bit faded but still readable.

Thanks for the info:

additional (from: Military Aircraft Serials of North America, by: S. Mitchell
and A. Eastwood (c) 1993 The Aviation and Hobby Shop, UK)

158966 BaE AV-8A, unit+ VMA-231 Cherry Point, NC. AMARC 05/1990 preserved
National Aviation Museum, Ottawa, Canada. June 23, 1997. This a/c will
go on public display late in 1997.

Darrell Larose | http://livewire.newforce.ca/darrell | darrell@.newforce.ca

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and building your wings on the way down" (Ray Bradbury)

Kristan Roberge

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Jul 3, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/3/97

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ad...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Darrell A. Larose) wrote:
>
>
> Graham Mansell (cv...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
> > Someone wanted to know the tail number for the Harrier it is .........
> > AV-8A 158966, paint is a bit faded but still readable.
>
> Thanks for the info:
>
> additional (from: Military Aircraft Serials of North America, by: S. Mitchell
> and A. Eastwood (c) 1993 The Aviation and Hobby Shop, UK)
>
> 158966 BaE AV-8A, unit+ VMA-231 Cherry Point, NC. AMARC 05/1990 preserved
> National Aviation Museum, Ottawa, Canada. June 23, 1997. This a/c will
> go on public display late in 1997.

I thought someone reported lastweek that it was an AV-8C?!?

Darrell A. Larose

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Jul 4, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/4/97

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Some speculated last week it was a "C" model, but I always thought it
had to be an "A" as it came from AMARC, and the news said BaE made it...

Tailnumber confirms the model...

Kristan Roberge

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Jul 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/5/97

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ad...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Darrell A. Larose) wrote:
>
> Some speculated last week it was a "C" model, but I always thought it
> had to be an "A" as it came from AMARC, and the news said BaE made it...
>

AM I THE ONLY person in this newsgroup who knows anything about the
early harriers?!?

The AV-8C was simply a mid-life update that was performed on about
two thirds of the AV-8A airframes. It included lift-improvement devices,
more avionics, and a few other changes. It did NOT involve construction
of new aircraft by BaE or MD.

All of the remaining AV-8As and AV-8Cs went into storage at AMARC
when the AV-8Bs came into service.

> Tailnumber confirms the model...

What resource did you use to check the tail number against?!?

>

Darrell A. Larose

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Jul 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/5/97

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Mr. Larose

Sorry for the slight delay to your question on the Harrier but we wanted to
make sure we got all the facts straight.

The AV-8A Harrier acquired by the Museum was built by British Aerospace in
England and entered service with the United States Marine Corps on
September 24, 1973 . It was taken out of service in August 15, 1985. Its
bureau number is 158966. The aircraft flew with three United States
Marine Corps squadrons, VMA 542, VMA 513 and VMA 231, and was attached to
the helicopter carriers USS Guam, USS Peleliu and USS Inchon. During its
service years the aircraft flew in the United States, on both the east and
west coasts, at Iwakuni and Atsugi in Japan and in the Hawaiian Islands.

The Museum acquired the Harrier because it is the only fixed wing V/STOL
aircraft to go into service in the West. It employs a unique vectored
thrust propulsion technology which the National Aviation Museum has wished
to illustrate for many years. The fact that it is a USMC machine is pure
happenstance. This was the most feasible approach for BAe, our benefactor
to take.

Specifications of the AV-8A Harrier are as follows:
Powerplant: One 21,500 lb (9 751 kg) static thrust Rolls-Royce
F402-RR-401 (Pegasus 103) vectored-thrust turbofan engine
Wing span: 25 ft 3 in (7.7 m)
Length: 45 ft 6.6 in (13.9 m)
Height: 11 ft 4 in (3.45 m)
Weight, gross: 25 200 lb (11 429 kg)
Speed, max.: 740 mph (1 191 km/h) at sea level
Climb: 22 500 ft/min (6 860 m/min)
Service ceiling: 51 200 ft (15 605 m)
Combat Radius, short take-off: 250 mi (402 km)
Maximum range: 2 340 mi (3 766 km)
Armament: Two 30-mm cannons in detachable pods; 5 000 lb (2 268 kg) of bombs and
rockets; can carry two Sidewinder air to air missiles
Accommodation: Pilot

Operational history of the National Aviation Museum's AV-8A Harrier
bureau number 158966.

1. Built in the United Kingdom; Accepted September 20, 1973.
2. Entered service September 24, 1974 with VMA 542 at US Marine Corps Beaufort.
3. Transferred to VMA 513 at Beaufort in May 1974.
4. Transferred with VMA 513 to Iwakuni August 28, 1974.
5. Transferred to Yuma with VMA 513 November 30, 1976.
6. Transferred to Cherry Point with VMA 513 June 10, 1977.
7. On detachment to Kadena November 1979 and Kaneohe January and February 1980.
8. Transferred to Atsugi with VMA 513 May 29, 1981.
9. Aboard USS Guam May 30, 1981.
10. Yuma August 27, 1981 to March 11, 1982.
11. Aboard USS Peleliu March 27, 1982.
12. Transferred VMA 231 at Cherry Point March 31, 1983. Aboard USS Inchon February 25,
1984. Operated at Cherry Point and 29 Palms until June 30, 1985.
13. To Davis Monthan AFB Tucson, Arizona for storage August 15, 1985.

If you have any more questions please do not hesitate in contacting me.
--
Ian Leslie
Library Assistant
National Aviation Museum
Library Services
P.O. Box 9724
Terminal T
Ottawa, Ontario
Canada, K1G 5A3
PH.(613)990-5015
FAX (613)990-3655
les...@istar.ca

Graham Mansell

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Jul 5, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/5/97

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Darrell A. Larose (ad...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
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>>> Graham Mansell (cv...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) writes:
>>> > Someone wanted to know the tail number for the Harrier it is .........
>>> > AV-8A 158966, paint is a bit faded but still readable.

snip

>>> additional (from: Military Aircraft Serials of North America, by: S. Mitchell
>>> and A. Eastwood (c) 1993 The Aviation and Hobby Shop, UK)
>>>
>>> 158966 BaE AV-8A, unit+ VMA-231 Cherry Point, NC. AMARC 05/1990 preserved
>>> National Aviation Museum, Ottawa, Canada. June 23, 1997. This a/c will
>>> go on public display late in 1997.
>> I thought someone reported lastweek that it was an AV-8C?!?

> Some speculated last week it was a "C" model, but I always thought it
> had to be an "A" as it came from AMARC, and the news said BaE made it...
>

> Tailnumber confirms the model...
The "C" came from N.A.M. letter announcing the arrival.........

Nils Mathisrud

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Jul 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/7/97

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Thanks for an interesting and well detailed information. However
according
to the book "Harrier - The Vertical Reality" by Ray Braybrook, 158966
was
among the AV-8As which were converted to AV-8C standard. Any comments on
this?
--
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Nils Mathisrud
email: et...@eto.ericsson.se

Kristan Roberge

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Jul 8, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/8/97

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Nils Mathisrud <et...@eto.ericsson.se> wrote:
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> Thanks for an interesting and well detailed information. However
> according
> to the book "Harrier - The Vertical Reality" by Ray Braybrook, 158966
> was
> among the AV-8As which were converted to AV-8C standard. Any comments on
> this?

AH HA!

Nice to see someone else checked the aircraft serial numbers...

John Clarke

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Jul 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/9/97

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In article <5pu0vm$g3b$2...@news.istar.ca>,

Oh boy. You win. You are a genius. Enjoy the depths of my
killfile. Maybe there is someone else down there who is more
obnoxious. Doubt it though.

John
jcl...@nortel.ca

Kristan Roberge

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Jul 9, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/9/97

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Well pardon me for wanting to verify the serial number and NOT
being a gullible moron who believes every press release put out
by the damned air museum.