US Military 'Sting' Callsign?
Darren Tindall
If so, anyone know who uses/used 'Sting' ?
Cheers
Daz
Dweezil Dwarftosser
> Do the USAF or USN use Squadron designated callsigns?
> If so, anyone know who uses/used 'Sting' ?
It has been a while since I saw a call sign/tail number listing,
but the USAF did NOT use strict designation of callsigns.
(There often was some consistency in that the callsigns for a
particular mission type often repeated week after week for a
month or more - but differing callsigns were used more to
differentiate a mission type than something used by a squadron.)
In any particular squadron, there might be a dozen different
major callsigns used in a flying day, not counting wingmen
using the same name but a different number. (Fowler 01/02,
Snoopy 01 through 04, Trunkline 01,02,03, etc.)
Since the mission drove the requirements, aircraft and or
aircrews from a different squadron in the wing sometimes
filled one or more of the positions in the mission package.
- John T.
Ed Rasimus
>"Darren Tindall" <Daz...@btinternet.com> writes:
>> Do the USAF or USN use Squadron designated callsigns?
>> If so, anyone know who uses/used 'Sting' ?
>
>It has been a while since I saw a call sign/tail number listing,
>but the USAF did NOT use strict designation of callsigns.
--snip--
>In any particular squadron, there might be a dozen different
>major callsigns used in a flying day, not counting wingmen
>using the same name but a different number. (Fowler 01/02,
>Snoopy 01 through 04, Trunkline 01,02,03, etc.)
Well, you're partially correct. During combat ops, the call sign was
assigned with the mission tasking, i.e. the four-ship launching at
11:30 on target #1234 would be call-sign Dumbo with aircraft numbered
from 1 through 4.
But, in peacetime, squadron call-signs were employed while I was
flying in USAFE in the '70s and '80s. And, usually the call-signs
weren't very romantic or dashing. At Torrejon, in the 401st TFW, the
three squadrons were: 612th, Balen; 613th, Duddy, and 614th, Slept.
For four years, everytime I went flying, I carried a "Duddy"
call-sign. The first flight of the day was Duddy 11, then Duddy 21,
etc, until the numbers came around again.
In TAC, by the '80s, we shifted to IP call-signs in the training
squadrons. The lead IP's assigned call-sign was used for the flight. A
squadron was assigned a list of available callsigns and each
instructor was given a fixed call. This is different, however, from
the "tactical call-sign" which is a nickname used for an individual
and occasionally used between wingmen in a flight.
Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (ret)
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Walter Bjorneby
well with 104 pilots. Nor did the tac callsign 'Mike November', where the
SAGE system assigned MN as a prefix so its computer could identify us. WE
looked in the JANAP call sign listing and found 'Baron' was the call sign
of a ground radar (GCI) site up in British Columbia (I think). Anyway, we
started using 'Baron' on our non-tactical flights out of the local area
and no one ever complained and we were happier than with Boron.
Walt BJ
Darren Tindall
Reason I was asking is that a friend sent me a wav file (1.6Mb 3min 30) of a
Sting callsign crew discussing the fact that the rearcrew chap had just shit
his flight suit whilst airborne. The ensuing conversation covers the rear
telling the pilot what he has just done and then having to tell the
formation leader why he has to knock it off. It's recent and somewhere near
Frankfurt.
Have any of the units listed below been stationed in Germany and would
anyone like a copy of the wav file?
It is 1.6 Mb but can be zipped to about 50% and is TOTALLY HILARIOUS and
well worth the wait.
Daz
VFA-113, "Stingers" NAS Lemoore, CA
144th FW, CA ANG at Fresno ANGB
180th FG, OH ANG at Toledo
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Darren Tindall
http://www.flash.net/~kennieg/backseat.wav
http://www.flash.net/~kennieg/backseat.mp3
take your pick!
Daz
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Joe Sambor
unit, but for many many years prior to that it was an F-15 squadron out of
Bitburg.
--
Joe Sambor
LM Aero F-16 Field Service
Chiayi AB, ROC
Mary Shafer
> But, in peacetime, squadron call-signs were employed while I was
> flying in USAFE in the '70s and '80s. And, usually the call-signs
> weren't very romantic or dashing. At Torrejon, in the 401st TFW, the
> three squadrons were: 612th, Balen; 613th, Duddy, and 614th, Slept.
Here at Edwards, as you say, the call signs belong to the
organizations and the numbers are assigned to specific aircrew. For
example, every flight flown by a TPS student has a callsign of "Cobra
nn" where nn is the number assigned to that student, based on
alphabetical order within the class. The staff gets the low numbers,
with the commandant being Cobra 01. The Flight Test squadron uses
Rick and, if my memory hasn't failed completely, the F-15 JTF uses
Eagle. I can't remember any of the others, although I think Zoom is
one, not that I can remember who uses it.
We use NASA nn, where nn is the last two digits of the tail number of
the airplane. Ground assets with radios, like control rooms and video
vans, are assigned numbers outside the range used by the tail numbers.
China Lake used Misty for the A-6s with buddy stores that we used in
about 1982 and the USN TPS used Teakettle the same way the USAF TPS
uses Cobra the last time I was there.
As you say, Ed, they're not really very dashing, although they are
distinctive. No one will mistake Rick for Cobra, for example. Here,
of course, the callsign also provides clues about the airplane type or
flight mission.
--
Mary Shafer
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Senior Handling Qualities Research Engineer
NASA Dryden Flight Research Center, Edwards, CA
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BlackBeard
<sha...@orville.dfrc.nasa.gov> wrote:
>
>China Lake used Misty for the A-6s with buddy stores that we used in
>about 1982 and the USN TPS used Teakettle the same way the USAF TPS
>uses Cobra the last time I was there.
>
>As you say, Ed, they're not really very dashing, although they are
>distinctive. No one will mistake Rick for Cobra, for example. Here,
>of course, the callsign also provides clues about the airplane type or
>flight mission.
>
>--
>Mary Shafer
I haven't been in Range Control for awhile, but when I was working the
OFP's back in the late 80's - early 90's, most o our flights were given a
'Coso nn' call sign. I wonder if there's ever been any confusion over the
Cobra/Coso call signs when your guys are up here?
Not real close, but close enough when you're busy and over a radio...
P.S. I was in Lancaster/Palmdale last weekend buying house paint. Saw
the Hornet-on-a-stick outside the stadium. Was that the NASA paint scheme
you've described here before? Looked sharp.
BlackBeard
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To leave the world a better place, whether by a healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social condition;
To know even one life has breathed easier because you lived.
This is to have succeeded".
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I wrote a book about a C141 accident near Torrejon AFB 28 AUG 1973.
Were you at Torrejon at that time?
Do you recall anything about that accident?
Thank you
Keith Willshaw
you that he passed away on Jan 30 2013 and is much missed.
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