MiG 29 kill ratio?
Randy Kaufman
Anybody know how many air-to-air kills MiG-29s have actually made?
Just curious.
Thanks!
Matt Wiser
the Gulf in July,1988 by
Iraqi MiG-29s, and there is a story from Desert Storm of an Iraqi MiG-29
flight leader killing his wingman
by mistake and then he flew into the debris cloud and FOD'ed his engines,
and he crashed. The only other
Fulcrum kill was two Cessna 337s from Brothers to the Rescue that a Cuban
Fulcrum shot down north of
Havana a couple of years ago. Other than that, I think the Fulcrum is
scoreless.
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Paul J. Adam
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>Anybody know how many air-to-air kills MiG-29s have actually made?
>Just curious.
Didn't they get a couple of Cessnas off Cuba?
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Piotr Jezierski
Randy Kaufman wrote in message
Eritrea - Ethiopia War.. I think both Su27 and mig29 scored.... against each
other!!
lekomin inc
Mike Kopack
by the MiG-23 that was scrambled with it?
Mike Kopack
Jussi Saari
>
> Randy Kaufman writes:
> >Anybody know how many air-to-air kills MiG-29s have actually made?
> >Just curious.
>
> Didn't they get a couple of Cessnas off Cuba?
IIRC just one; one of the three escaped, and one was shot down by a
MiG-23...
Jussi
Jussi Saari
>
> Anybody know how many air-to-air kills MiG-29s have actually made?
> Just curious.
Not counting the Cessna(s?), Iraqi MiG-29s apparently shot down two
Iranian F-14s shortly before the end of the first Gulf War. I think
there was also a Su-17 kill by a MiG-29 in the Afghan civil war after
the soviets had left.
Jussi
Krztalizer
>Fulcrum kill was two Cessna 337s from Brothers to the Rescue that a Cuban
>Fulcrum shot down north of
>Havana a couple of years ago.
I recalled the news reports crediting MiG-23s with that dastardly deed...?
G
haydar aziz
> Just curious.
hi
Iraqi AF MiG29s shot down 2 Iranian AF F-14A tomcats in august 1988.
In addition there are TWO unconfirmed MiG-29 kills during the gulf war,
one of which was a US-Navy F-14D "TARPS" aircraft.
Apart from that, there are also the two light aircraft shot down by the
Cuban air Force 29s,
and during the south/north yemen war of 1994? there were south yemeni MiG-29
involved in the downing of several North Yemeni AF SU-22 "Fitter" and F-5E
aircraft [but I don't know the total number that the Mig was responsible for
3-5??].
as for the MiG-29 losses...
USAF F-15Cs destroyed 5 Iraqi AF MiG-29s during the second Gulf war,
Ethiopian AirForce destroyed 2 eritrean MiG29s using SU-27s... and currently
in the Balkans about 4-5? Yugo AF MiG-29s have been downed by US and Dutch
F-15C/F-16C aircraft.
which makes 12 losses for about 12-13 kills [although the number of kills is
NOT very sure, especially in the Yemen war].
NOTE that the MiG is only able to perform sufficiently well when the
opposition is equipped with older aircaft or is out of touch with their
controller [AWACS or GCI], this was the case when the MiG shot down the
Iranian tomcats, and also true of the Yemen war.
The two cuban kills can be disregarded as they simply shot down slow drones
[like in a training exercise... ]
The F-14D kill during the gulf war was against a recon equiped aircraft...
and iraqis probably knew most of the weak spots of the F-14 [since Iranians
used them extensively during the 8 year conflict], the second kill was
against an A6 intruder also in the al-qaim region where the TARPS plane was
shot down, and the real reasons for the losses were probably confusion with
their covering defence assets, and also the western desert was just on the
edge or beyond AWACS coverage during the earlier part of the conflict [when
the awacs was still flying away from the Iraqi border] so maybe they had no
warnings??
hope this helps.
regards
haydar
Scott Barnes
Russians Shoot Down Plane of Uranium Smugglers
Source: The New York Chronicle, March 5, 1996
Russian fighter planes pursued and shot down a light plane yesterday whose
wreckage yielded 30 of a missing 50 kilograms of stolen uranium-235 that was
recently sold by Russian crime figures. The uranium was previously believed
to be in Iran's possession, but with the recovery of most of the cache in
Russian territory, international non-proliferation officials say the
remaining 20 kilograms is probably still in Russia.
The Russian air force, acting on information from undisclosed sources,
pursued a Russian-made eight-passenger Yak-40 business jet as it flew south
toward the Caspian Sea and -- presumably -- Iran. Two MiG-29s fired on the
Yak after several warnings to land were ignored. "We gave fair warning, but
we could not wait until the aircraft was over water, which would have made
recovery [of the uranium] virtually impossible," said Defense Ministry
spokesman Major Alexei Volkov.
In addition to the uranium, the bodies of three still-unidentified men and
numerous light weapons were also recovered at the crash site, about 100
kilometers south of the city of Volgograd in southern Russia. The location
of the remaining 20 kilograms of uranium is still unknown, but experts say
that is not enough material for a country such as Iran to fabricate a
nuclear weapon.
International nuclear-safety officials assailed the Russian action, calling
it "precipitous, irresponsible, and unnecessarily dangerous" in that it
could have resulted in a "nuclear event" had any of the uranium containers
been damaged, though such containers are designed to remain safe even under
such circumstances. "We acknowledge that risk," said Volkov, "but ending the
murderous hooliganism of these nuclear bandits was unquestionably the higher
priority."
wal...@oneimage.com
much danger as that much critical material in reckless hands.
Walt Bj ftr plt ret
Eni23
possible kills in Yugoslavia.