heavy and sluggish 2021 08

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/6e2pu838> wonderfulengineering.com

The United States Air Force Hypersonic Missile Test Has Failed Again

.. The USAF has recently tested its hypersonic AGM-183A missile, and the
results came out to be disappointing .. In two years, this was a fourth
test that was failed ..



> <https://sptnkne.ws/Bb9y>
>
> The US military has failed in the domain of hypersonic arms

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/pffdu9y7> londonnewstime.com

Russia's deadly new 15,880mph RS-28 Sarmat intercontinental missile set up
for testing .. The weapon can deliver a MIRV warhead weighing up to 10
tons to any point in the world flying both in the Arctic and the South Pole
.. It has the ability to use orbits and unpredictable routes .. New weapons
can .. destroy areas as large as our shoddy island, or Texas ..

...



> <https://tinyurl.com/y9fyc6wc>
>
> .. to make the U.S. anti-ballistic missile shield useless ..

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/s2t6bt3a> nationalinterest.org

.. The first S-500 "Triumfator-M" units will enter service ..
The S-500 is Russia's upcoming next-generation flagship missile system,
promising across-the-board performance improvements over the already-
formidable S-400 Triumf. The S-500 is reportedly capable of intercepting
hypersonic cruise missiles and other aerial targets - including unmanned
aerial vehicles (UAVs) and potentially even certain types of low-orbit
satellites - flying at speeds of over Mach 5. The system has an
operational range of 600 km against ballistic missiles and 500 km for
area defense, a substantial improvement over the S-400. It can track and
target up to ten warheads flying at four miles per second, employing
distinct radar systems optimized for different types of targets.

Aside from its purported ability to intercept hypersonic threats, the
S-500's other major contribution to Russian military capabilities is
against stealth technology .. A "silver bullet" against next-generation
stealth fighters like the Lockheed Martin's F-35 Lightning II and the
F-22 Raptor .. Neutralizes American offensive weapons ..



> <https://tinyurl.com/y7e8uhos>
>
> Turkey tests its S-400 missiles to track F-22s and F-35s

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/3rj9zc74> eurasiantimes.com

.. US Is Failing With Its Hypersonic Program ..

In a major setback, the US Air Force's second attempt to conduct the
flight test of a hypersonic weapon proved to be a dud. The two successive
failures perhaps explain why the US military is lagging ..

Russia Is Far Ahead

As the US Air Force faced two successive failures, Russia and China have
achieved success in developing their hypersonic weaponry. Russia has
three major hypersonic weapons - the Avangard, the Kinzhal, and the
Zircon .. And all of them cleared tests .. The Avangard hypersonic
intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) is the most potent among all
three .. The first regiment of Avangard hypersonic missiles was put into
service in December 2019 ..



> <https://tinyurl.com/yysvruv4>
>
> Russian Northern Fleet frigate test-fires Tsirkon hypersonic missile

[George Black]

On 7/08/21 8:09 pm, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/pffdu9y7> londonnewstime.com
>
> Russia's deadly new 15,880mph RS-28 Sarmat intercontinental missile set
> up for testing .. The weapon can deliver a MIRV warhead weighing up to
> 10 tons to any point in the world flying both in the Arctic and the
> South Pole .. It has the ability to use orbits and unpredictable routes
> .. New weapons can .. destroy areas as large as our shoddy island, or
> Texas ..
>

That tactic of a 'superior technology' killed the USSR.
Now its poor cousin is trying the same tactic.
Wont work

[Byker]

"George Black" wrote in message
news:a5mdnXAZPaz9eJP8...@giganews.com...

>
> That tactic of a 'superior technology' killed the USSR.
> Now its poor cousin is trying the same tactic.
> Wont work

The more Putin boasts about "wonder weapons", the more you can be sure that:

-- They don't exist

-- They can't be put into serial production

This Russia-China "alliance" will blow up in the Kremlin's face when "rich"
China decides to lord it over "poor" Russia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGafVj-wrmw

[George Black]

On 9/08/21 5:02 am, Byker wrote:
> "George Black"  wrote in message
> news:a5mdnXAZPaz9eJP8...@giganews.com...
>>
>> That tactic of a 'superior technology' killed the USSR.
>> Now its poor cousin is trying the same tactic.
>> Wont work
>
> The more Putin boasts about "wonder weapons", the more you can be sure
> that:
>
> -- They don't exist
>
> -- They can't be put into serial production

Oh they might have one or two but at the claimed speeds they'd be more
likely to go into space

[Byker]

"George Black" wrote in message

news:yLudnawuSP6YqI38...@giganews.com...

Or melt in the atmosphere...

[Oleg Smirnov]

China and Russia Joint Military Drill in Northwest China

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqbGud9O_ww>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9sdt9o1uH8>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enj2KFkY5GE>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qvwkK1aj-Y>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBrZ-ewMiOU>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExsCY3iQl6k>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TanDh2C3ZQo>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FxSs0JoKtY>
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-haFifb7X8>

...



> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkXbyklunp4>
>
> Watch Russian drills near the North Pole

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/yjmjv6zf> moonofalabama.org

Why Hypersonic Missiles Are Real Game Changers ..

But let's lower our sights a little from ICBMs and IRBMs [and even
subsonic cruise missiles] to a quite ancient missile technology, the
Soviet-era Scud, first introduced into service in 1957! A recent case
with a Houthi Scud missile fired at Saudi Arabia in December 2017
shows just how difficult missile interception really is ..

The Houthi missile, identified as an Iranian-made Burqan-2 [a copy of
a North Korean Scud, itself a copy of a Chinese copy of the original
Russian Scud from the 1960s], flew over 600 miles before hitting the
Riyadh international airport. The US-made Patriot missile defense
system fired FIVE interceptor shots .. - all of them missed!

.. This was not the first time that Patriot 'missile defense' against
this supposedly obsolete missile failed spectacularly .. During the
first Gulf War, the United States claimed a near-perfect record in
shooting down Iraqi variants of the Scud. Subsequent analyses found
that nearly all the interceptions had failed. Why is shooting down
Scuds so difficult? Because this was arguably the world's first
hypersonic missile [it flies at M 5 and does MANEUVER]! ..

Clearly the US is many years away from fielding a working hypersonic
missile. These early tests were only supposed to test the rocket, and
carried a dummy 'glide vehicle' which is supposed to separate from the
rocket once it reaches a speed of about M 6 or so, and then glide to
its target while maneuvering. The prototype missile would carry a
frangible surrogate for that [glide] vehicle that would disintegrate
after release ..

Zircon .. is in fact groundbreaking .. The next generation of such
missiles .. will be even smaller and more capable .. An even bigger
engineering accomplishment is the astonishing Avangard boost-glide
vehicle .. The bottom line is that these new Russian technologies ..
are game-changing because they are UNSTOPPABLE with today's air defense
technology. Just like the Plains Indians couldn't hope to stop, with
their bows and arrows, the US cavalry with their repeating rifles. Even
more profound may be the psychological effect that Russia's engineering
accomplishments must be exerting on the American psyche ..

Read more <https://tinyurl.com/yjmjv6zf>

...



> <https://tinyurl.com/6e2pu838>

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sf2lu5$1ag$2...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> <https://tinyurl.com/yjmjv6zf> moonofalabama.org
>
> Why Hypersonic Missiles Are Real Game Changers ..

Will "monkey model" versions be available for export?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R753va6xjDM

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/39s6la/is_it_true_that_soviet_military_exports_were/

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:ses82a$4e2$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> China and Russia Joint Military Drill in Northwest China

Wouldn't it be a kick in the head if each side thought the other was
actually about to invade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qx93AYPIRU

Like in "Able Archer '83"?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EI3_jCIkkA

[a425couple]

On 8/7/2021 1:11 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/s2t6bt3a> nationalinterest.org
>
> .. The first S-500 "Triumfator-M" units will enter service ..
> The S-500 is Russia's upcoming next-generation flagship missile system,
> promising

OK Oleg, I do not think we ever doubted that
if it chose to, Russia could fuck up a lot
or the world.

But how about just trying to live a pleasant life?

This view is 4 years old, but is it still valid?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2017/03/19/russia-quality-of-life-indicators-worse-than-chinas/?sh=76a81042571e

Mar 19, 2017,06:34pm EDT
Russia Quality Of Life Indicators Worse Than China's

Kenneth Rapoza Senior Contributor
Markets
I write about global business and investing in emerging markets.


Traffic in snowy Moscow nearly grinds to a halt. Problems like this
occur regardless of weather,... [+]

Sure it has the Bolshoi and pristine Red Square with its luxury shopping
at the Tsum. And yes, unlike New York and Sao Paulo and Mumbai, no one
is asking you for food and spare change on every street corner. But when
it comes to overall quality of life, Russia ranks lower than all of the
big emerging markets. Even Mexico with its corruption and drug lords
does better.

According to the big data cost of living number crunchers at Numbeo,
Russia's biggest problems are weather; Moscow traffic that makes the 405
in Los Angeles and the Marginal in Sao Paulo seem tame; outrageous real
estate prices in city centers, and pollution. Russia may be known for
great culture, world-class great museums and home to one of the world's
most charming cities in St. Petersburg, but its overall quality of life
score is 86.27, putting it on par with its cultural rivals in Ukraine.

Numbeo's impressive data collection compares a cross section of costs
between cities and countries, in both the local currency, dollars and
euros. Russia's cost of living is the lowest of the BRICs.
Numbeo's impressive data collection compares a cross section of costs
between cities and countries,... [+] CHART FROM NUMBEO
PROMOTED


Moscow is home to more billionaires per capita than any other city. And
while most of them may actually live in London full time, it is not
uncommon to hear the roar of a McLaren marking its territory on the
Krasnopresnenskaya road along the Moscow River. Real estate there is
expensive, but according to Numbeo, not as expensive as Shanghai. The
price per square foot is 59.3% cheaper in the city center of Moscow than
it is in Shanghai. A three-bedroom rental in the city center is around
25% cheaper in Moscow.

This high housing cost in China, coupled with its massive air quality
problem, has the biggest of the BRIC countries ranked behind Russia.

Most things in China are cheap. But Chinese pay a high price for
housing...and for air quality.
As every American knows, most things in China are cheap. But Chinese pay
a high price for... [+] NUMBEO
Within the big four emerging markets, India is No. 1 thanks to low cost
of services and goods, including housing costs as a percentage of median
income.

India is the poorest of the big emerging markets, so all things being
equal, the country has a much lower cost basis for goods and services
compared to elsewhere.
India is the poorest of the big emerging markets, so all things being
equal, the country has a much... [+] NUMBEO
And then there is Brazil. Brazilians like to complain that every thing
costs a fortune, particularly in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro cities.
Sao Paulo city ranks well below Brazil's average cost of living score of
94.29 due to crime, pollution, traffic jams, and housing. The city gets
a 59. That's lousy.

Brazil's overall low cost of living makes it better than Russia. Sao
Paulo scores better than Moscow. (Numbeo)
Brazil's overall low cost of living makes it better than Russia. Sao
Paulo scores better than... [+] NUMBEO
Oddly enough, despite being one of the most productive agriculture
states in the world, bananas in Sao Paulo city cost 30% more than they
do in Moscow; eggs cost 58% more in Sao Paulo than in Moscow; a loaf of
bread cost 163% more in Sao Paulo than in Moscow. Even water (+18.4%)
and domestic beer (53.39%) cost more in Sao Paulo than in Moscow,
according to Numbeo data.

Yet, thanks to great weather and a relatively low cost of living
nationwide, Brazil life is better than Russia life.

Numbeo surveys cost of living, purchasing power, housing, air quality,
crime rates, healthcare and traffic commute times in its quality of life
index. Users can compare cities against each other in terms of cost on a
number of consumer items as well as housing and electricity bills.

The Americans vs The Russkiyes

Numbeo's Quality of Life Index gauge goes from 0 to 200. The higher the
number, the better. In this regard, the U.S. scores a 180.02 overall.
It's top five cities with near perfect scores are San Diego (197.7),
Dallas (191.8), Columbus (190.6), San Jose (190) and Portland (187.7).

In terms of cost of living, however, our best cities are more expensive
than Russia's. The top five are over the top in terms of cost, with
Numbeo giving a score of 100 for the highest cost of living in a given
country.

New York scores a 100, followed by Honolulu (97.7), San Francisco
(97.3), Anchorage (96.8) and Washington DC (93).

Russia's best cities are more affordable for the locals who live there.
The top five are Moscow (48.8), St. Petersburg (45.7), Yekaterinburg
(39.5), Novosibirsk (37) and Kazan (34.69).

Within the main segments of Numbeo's Cost of Living power gauge, here's
the winner:

Amerikantsy Russians
Purchasing Power Index: 122.48 48.97
Safety Index: 51.69 53.81
Health Care Index: 68.27 56.12
Climate Index: 68.01 12.32
Cost of Living Index: 74.13 43.28
Property Price to Income Ratio: 3.23 13.16
Traffic Commute Time: 34.41 49.33
Pollution Index: 31.32 63.52

These numbers can be confusing at first blush. A high number can
indicate a negative. For instance, a higher pollution index number is
worse than a lower one, so U.S. air quality is better than Russia's.

A higher climate index is better than a lower one, as it means the
country has warmer and more diverse weather regions suitable for
different outdoor activities and longer growing seasons for farmers.
Russia scores better on safety and cost of living.

Worth noting, as healthcare remains top-of-mind in the U.S., the
healthcare index scores us better than the Russians.

The components of the health care system surveyed by Numbeo respondents
include things like medical staff competency, quality of medical
equipment and diagnosis, insurance costs, and convenience and
availability of doctors.

Russia scores a 60 in terms of cost, beating the U.S. hands-down. U.S.
respondents gave cost satisfaction a 46.7 out of a possible score of 200.




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[Oleg Smirnov]

a425couple, <news:sf3nb...@news4.newsguy.com>

> On 8/7/2021 1:11 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>> <https://tinyurl.com/s2t6bt3a> nationalinterest.org
>>
>> .. The first S-500 "Triumfator-M" units will enter service ..
>> The S-500 is Russia's upcoming next-generation flagship missile system,
>> promising
>
> OK Oleg, I do not think we ever doubted that
> if it chose to, Russia could fuck up a lot
> or the world.
>
> But how about just trying to live a pleasant life?

These are military-related groups, and there's a huge lot
of unedited primary sources from which one can learn Russian
life in various regions.

Only wankers find 'special' articles for masturbation.

[Byker]

a425couple, <news:sf3nb...@news4.newsguy.com>
> On 8/7/2021 1:11 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>> <https://tinyurl.com/s2t6bt3a> nationalinterest.org
>>
>> .. The first S-500 "Triumfator-M" units will enter service ..
>> The S-500 is Russia's upcoming next-generation flagship missile system,
>> promising
>
> OK Oleg, I do not think we ever doubted that
> if it chose to, Russia could fuck up a lot
> or the world.
>
> But how about just trying to live a pleasant life?

Parable:

The industrialist said to the fisherman, "Why are you napping under a tree?"
"Because I've caught enough fish for the day." "Why don't you catch more?"
"Why would I do that?" "So you can buy more nets, a bigger boat, go out into
deeper waters, then buy a whole fleet of boats and be rich like me." "Then
what?" "Well, then you can enjoy life." The fisherman: "What do you think
I'm doing now?"

[George Black]

Yet here you are....
Do Russians understand irony ?????????

[ZZyXX]

On 8/12/21 1:24 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> The bottom line is that these new Russian technologies .. are
> game-changing because they are UNSTOPPABLE with today's air defense
> technology. Just like the Plains Indians couldn't hope to stop, with
> their bows and arrows, the US cavalry with their repeating rifles. Even
> more profound may be the psychological effect that Russia's engineering
> accomplishments must be exerting on the American psyche ..

yet the plains Indians defeated Custer

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/yjkbq3wj> firstpost.com

Wiped out within weeks, Afghan military was built over 20 years with
$20 mn .. US helped build Afghan military with $83mn, over 20 years ..
The surrenders seem to be happening as fast as the Taliban can travel ..

The swift offensive has resulted in mass surrenders, captured
helicopters and millions of dollars of U.S.-supplied equipment paraded
by the Taliban on grainy cellphone videos .. The Taliban .. walked in
with little or no resistance .. This implosion comes despite the United
States having poured more than $83 billion in weapons, equipment and
training into the country's security forces over two decades .. The
United States' 20-year endeavor to rebuild Afghanistan's military into
a robust and independent fighting force has failed, and that failure is
now playing out in real time as the country slips into Taliban control.

...

It looks epic and will go down in history.



> <https://on.rt.com/92qj>
>
> US military spent $60 million on Afghanistan power lines to nowhere

[George Black]

Like Russia in Afghanistan eh.
Reminds us again as to how that went

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/yhz23rxv> newsobserver.com

Costs of the Afghanistan war ..

At just short of 20 years, the now-ending U.S. combat mission in Afghanistan
was America's longest war .. Its death toll is in the many tens of thousands.
And because the U.S. borrowed most of the money to pay for it, generations of
Americans will be burdened by the cost of paying it off .. Here's a look at
the U.S.-led war in Afghanistan, by the numbers ..

Estimated amount of direct Afghanistan and Iraq war costs that the United
States has debt-financed as of 2020: $2 trillion. Estimated interest costs by
2050: Up to $6.5 trillion.

THE WARS END. THE COSTS DON'T:
Amount Bilmes estimates the United States has committed to pay in health care,
disability, burial and other costs for roughly 4 million Afghanistan and Iraq
veterans: more than $2 trillion.
Period those costs will peak: after 2048.

...

In most news the figure of 2,448 dead American servicemen is circulating, but
no one mentions 3,846 dead American "contractors" (plus also 1,144 servicemen
from other NATO states).

It looks like a classic corrupt scheme when the state-linked structures get
most of the state funding while most of the real 'dirty' work is outsourced to
'contractors'.

No wonder the outcome is so pathetic.



> <https://tinyurl.com/onpudqy>
> U.S. troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have stolen tens of millions
> through bribery, theft, and rigged contracts.

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/yjvsa523> newsmax.com

Gen. David Petraeus .. says is "catastrophic ... for the United States
and the world ... a serious mistake [by the U.S.] ... an enormous
national security setback."

"There are no good outcomes here..." Petraeus added. "[This is] tragic,
regrettable, frankly preventable. [And] this did not have to turn out
this way ... Going to be a complete meltdown of a country." ..
Those who decided to pull out of Afghanistan now "have to own it ...
The results cannot be sugarcoated ... Don't put lipstick on a pig, it
undermines your credibility." The general then warned that if Kabul
falls, "it is a blow to our reputation around the world."

...

America needs to better learn to lose.

The further, the more such a skill will be in demand.

[Oleg Smirnov]

2021-08-12 <https://tinyurl.com/yhmeazls> reuters.com

Taliban could take Afghan capital within 90 days .. - U.S. intelligence

2021-08-12 <https://tinyurl.com/yegj2elc> abcnews.go.com

US military analysis says Kabul could fall to Taliban in 90 days ..

2021-08-15 <https://tinyurl.com/yzxwac5l> taskandpurpose.com

It's over. Taliban fighters are entering Kabul. Afghanistan's president
has fled the country.. And thousands of Afghans who have worked for the
Americans are on their own ..

...

So, one can see, the US intelligence, military analysis is a sick joke.
The most funny thing is that in this case the oafs had no motive to
spread disinformation. They really believed in their wishful thinking.

One will recall it next time when "U.S. intelligence" claims something.



> <https://sptnkne.ws/GXRj>
>
> The invasion and occupation of Afghanistan was based on a big lie ..

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sfbssr$u6d$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> It's over. Taliban fighters are entering Kabul. Afghanistan's president
> has fled the country.. And thousands of Afghans who have worked for the
> Americans are on their own ..

And most if not all of the old regime's "soldiers" have
taken off their uniforms and joined the Taliban...

[ZZyXX]

because you are such an unbiased presenter of "facts" could you please
present the Russian version of what their time in Afghanistan cost them.

[Byker]

"ZZyXX" wrote in message news:sfchnl$j60$1...@gioia.aioe.org...

>
> because you are such an unbiased presenter of "facts" could you please
> present the Russian version of what their time in Afghanistan cost them.

Oleg?

[a425couple]

On 8/15/2021 1:09 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz23rxv> newsobserver.com
>
> Costs of the Afghanistan war ..

> ------

> In most news the figure of 2,448 dead American servicemen is
> circulating, but
> no one mentions 3,846 dead American "contractors" (plus also 1,144
> servicemen
> from other NATO states).
>

Hmmm, Oleg seems to gloat over the above, but is
silent about the below,,, in far fewer years:

Soviet invasion of Afghanistan | Summary & Facts | Britannica
https://www.britannica.com › ... › The Modern World
Jul 27, 2021 — The war in Afghanistan became a quagmire for what
by the late 1980s was a disintegrating Soviet Union.
(The Soviets suffered some 15,000 dead ...
Date: December 1979

[a425couple]

Yes, "These are military-related groups".
Most most readers would agree that the purpose
of a military is to protect the country and
it's life.

Everything makes it sound life life in the
Russian military is quite Spartan and
kind of sucks!
And for most regular citizens, not much better.

Ahhh, but you think it's fine because the
military can ruin a lot, and Putin is rich.
It sucks to be an average Russian!

[Oleg Smirnov]

a425couple, <news:sfe9g...@news3.newsguy.com>

> On 8/15/2021 1:09 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz23rxv> newsobserver.com
>>
>> Costs of the Afghanistan war ..
>> ------
>> In most news the figure of 2,448 dead American servicemen is circulating,
>> but no one mentions 3,846 dead American "contractors"
>> (plus also 1,144 servicemen from other NATO states).
>
> Hmmm, Oleg seems to gloat over the above, but is

Just point to the American propaganda trickery.

> silent about the below,,, in far fewer years:
>
> Soviet invasion of Afghanistan | Summary & Facts | Britannica
> https://www.britannica.com › ... › The Modern World
> Jul 27, 2021 — The war in Afghanistan became a quagmire for what
> by the late 1980s was a disintegrating Soviet Union.
> (The Soviets suffered some 15,000 dead ...
> Date: December 1979

America suffered some 60,000 dead in Vietnam.

[Oleg Smirnov]

a425couple, <news:sfe9...@news3.newsguy.com>

> On 8/12/2021 11:10 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>>>> <https://tinyurl.com/s2t6bt3a> nationalinterest.org
>>>>
>>>> .. The first S-500 "Triumfator-M" units will enter service ..
>>>> The S-500 is Russia's upcoming next-generation flagship missile
>>>> system, promising
>>>
>>> OK Oleg, I do not think we ever doubted that
>>> if it chose to, Russia could fuck up a lot
>>> or the world.
>>>
>>> But how about just trying to live a pleasant life?
>>
>> These are military-related groups, and there's a huge lot
>> of unedited primary sources from which one can learn Russian
>> life in various regions.
>>
>> Only wankers find 'special' articles for masturbation.
>
> Yes, "These are military-related groups".
> Most most readers would agree that the purpose
> of a military is to protect the country and
> it's life.

The American "deaths of despair" <https://tinyurl.com/y5mdvwak>
have climbed up to the 100 years back level, which means many in
the filthy nation no longer want to live.

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/yfy7ngx4> nationalinterest.org

Russia's Tsirkon Hypersonic Cruise Missile Is Operational

Here's What You Need to Remember: The missile boasts an operational range
in excess of one thousand kilometers and up to two thousand kilometers
depending on the launch platform and operating circumstances ..

Tsirkon cannot be reliably intercepted by any tools currently available to
NATO forces .. The Arleigh Burke-class missile destroyers' current surface-
to-air systems .. cannot effectively counter hypersonic threats ..

...



> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz6vfyhbIiM>
>
> Russian Northern Fleet frigate test-fires Tsirkon

[George Black]

No reply as to why Russia bailed out of Afghanistan then ???????

[George Black]

Avoiding the question again.
We're talking about the failure of the USSR

[Byker]

"George Black" wrote in message

news:YO6dnQAGGtNQiIH8...@giganews.com...

>
> No reply as to why Russia bailed out of Afghanistan then ???????

No reply from the Kremlin as to why Russian tanks are heading for the Afghan
border, either. Are they supposed to turn back "refugees"?

Since Siberia could stand a few more inhabitants:

If a C-17 can fit 640 Afghans

Then an An-124 can accommodate 1,140

And the An-225 can fit 1,500 on the freight deck alone.

Or would you prefer that they pour across the border on foot?

[ZZyXX]

is it that you are unwilling, or just unable to provide all the costs to
Russia in Afghanistan compared to what you posted about Americas costs

[Dean Markley]

Russia does not have a border with Afghanistan.

[Keith Willshaw]

Indeed but Tajaikistan does have a border with afghanistan and Russia
has a military base in that country. One of its main tasks is keeping
the Taliban out of that country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_201st_Military_Base
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/russia-reinforce-military-base-tajikistan-report-2021-07-21/

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/yjblqwf6> dailymail.co.uk

.. How the US wasted billions in Afghanistan ..
- $549 million spent on unreliable transport planes ..
- $500,000 for 'melting' buildings ..
- $28 million for the wrong camouflage ..
- $36 million for an unused command center ..
- $176 million for a road that did not last a month ..
- $9 billion spent on a futile war on drugs ..

...



> <https://tinyurl.com/m7hcbvb>
>
> Goats and Boats

[Stephen Harding]

The difference is, unlike Russia, we can still afford it!


SMH

[ZZyXX]

On 8/21/21 7:49 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> <https://tinyurl.com/yjblqwf6> dailymail.co.uk
>
> .. How the US wasted billions in Afghanistan ..
> - $549 million spent on unreliable transport planes ..
> - $500,000 for 'melting' buildings  ..
> - $28 million for the wrong camouflage ..
> - $36 million for an unused command center ..
> - $176 million for a road that did not last a month ..
> - $9 billion spent on a futile war on drugs ..
>
> ...
>

you still haven't posted how much russia wasted in Afghanistan

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/ygvb9k92> thedailybeast.com

The Taliban Now Controls a U.S.-Made Super-Surveillance System

Over the last 20 years, Afghanistan became .. the place America
experimented with new weapons of war .. That effort failed to create
anything that could stop the Taliban ..

...

Pathetic.



> <https://tinyurl.com/y8aochcw>
>
> US spy planes are breaking down ..

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/yjlk4xmc> bernama.com

US soldiers shot and killed civilians in a panic after last week's
deadly blast by Daesh/ISIS-K near Hamid Karzai International Airport in
the Afghan capital Kabul ..

<https://tinyurl.com/yjqv6439> washingtonpost.com

A U.S. drone strike .. killed 10 civilians in Kabul, including several
small children .. In total, eight children and young adults were killed
in the attack ..

...

Looks like the frightened boobs shooting haphazardly in a great panic.

The true colors of the US military.



> <https://archive.is/Orh1d>
>
> Who Urinated in Her Boots? Mystery at Military Base ..

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sgiq55$ten$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> A U.S. drone strike .. killed 10 civilians in Kabul, including several
> small children .. In total, eight children and young adults were killed in
> the attack ..

Ten fewer future suicide bombers to worry about: http://rlu.ru/2OObJ

[Oleg Smirnov]

> <https://tinyurl.com/yjqv6439> washingtonpost.com
>
> A U.S. drone strike .. killed 10 civilians in Kabul, including several
> small children .. In total, eight children and young adults were killed
> in the attack ..

<https://tinyurl.com/yhz54k5t> weeklyblitz.net

Biden administration lies, didn't kill any ISIS-suspect in Afghanistan

According to credible sources, despite the drone attack on suspected ISIS-K
hideouts and Biden administration's claim of killing an ISIS-K member, the
US president and his administration actually have lied ..

[ZZyXX]

https://www.iwp.edu/articles/2020/12/18/mass-murder-in-afghanistan-40-years-of-conflict/

Soviet-Afghan War, 1979-1989

On December 24, 1979, in a desperate attempt to stabilize its prop-up
government and save its Communist empire, the Red Army invaded
Afghanistan. Previous experience with guerrilla war tactics did nothing
to stop the Soviets from rolling into Afghanistan with heavy artillery
and strategy ill-suited for the terrain and adversary.[1] They were
ready to fight a classic theater war. The prevailing Soviet
military-industrial complex eclipsed the ability of leaders to approach
the war in Afghanistan in an unconventional way.[2] But indeed, the
mujahideen was an unconventional enemy.

Many factors contributed to the Soviet failure in Afghanistan. The
empire was already limping when it launched its campaign in 1979, and it
was not prepared for such a brutal and costly war. The occupation lacked
popular support back home in the USSR. The Afghan army was weak, and the
mujahideen was supported through American and Pakistani programs
supplying weaponry and finances, strengthening already dedicated
fighters. The Afghans, hardly modernized, were still a formidable force.
Not quite united, but not totally uncoordinated, resistance fighters
came together just long enough to see the Soviets expelled.

The mass murder of civilians in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation
was inevitable due to the nature of guerrilla war. Mujahideen fighters
blended in well, both to the rural Afghan countryside and the tribal
people. Before long, the frustrated Soviets hardly bothered to
distinguish between civilians and insurgents, resorting to mass killing
campaigns. In order to destroy the support base for guerrillas, the
Soviets “felt it necessary to suppress defenseless civilians by killing
them indiscriminately, by compelling them to flee abroad, and by
destroying their crops and means of irrigation, the basis of their
livelihood. The dropping of booby traps from the air, the planting of
mines, and the use of chemical substances, though not on a wide scale,
were also meant to serve the same purpose.”[3]

Retributive murder, as in other instances of war, was commonplace. On
one occasion, two hundred noncombatants in the town of Tashqurghan were
killed in revenge for the death of three Russian soldiers in April
1982.[4] The Red Army specifically targeted large gatherings, especially
mosques. In another instance of violence, the Soviets fired rockets on a
wedding ceremony in the village of Ganjabad in 1980. As a result of the
attacks, roughly 150 people were killed.[5] These are just two of many
such events.

The brutality of the Soviet effort in Afghanistan displaced millions of
people, specifically women and children. Neighboring Pakistan and Iran
absorbed over 5 million refugees, nearly a quarter of the population.[6]
The Red Army disregarded all norms of conduct and unabashedly targeted
children by disguising land mines as toys. Despite demining efforts, to
this day, children are often maimed or killed by the mines that remain.[7]

[Oleg Smirnov]

<https://tinyurl.com/yz95ca93> tribune.com.pk

In the last 50 years, the United States has spent around $10 trillion on
overseas wars ranging from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and elsewhere
in Africa and Latin America. Doling out trillions of dollars collected
from taxpayers only on wars without winning and causing millions of deaths,
America's moment of truth has arrived. History teaches us the lesson that
the decline of power gets an impetus when the people and the government of
the concerned power deviate from the path of accountability, truth,
innovation and justice. Arrogance and ignorance of America despite its
abundant wealth were unable to prevent the irreversible process of its
decline unleashed since the end of the Vietnam War and culminating in its
abrupt, unplanned and chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan ..

...



> <https://tinyurl.com/yhggavy7>
>
> .. Afghanistan capitulation is worse than fall of Vietnam

[Oleg Smirnov]

ZZyXX, <news:sgjmci$1j00$1...@gioia.aioe.org>

> On 8/30/21 12:22 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>>> <https://tinyurl.com/yjqv6439> washingtonpost.com
>>>
>>> A U.S. drone strike .. killed 10 civilians in Kabul, including several
>>> small children .. In total, eight children and young adults were killed in
>>> the attack ..
>>
>> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz54k5t> weeklyblitz.net
>>
>> Biden administration lies, didn't kill any ISIS-suspect in Afghanistan
>>
>> According to credible sources, despite the drone attack on suspected ISIS-K
>> hideouts and Biden administration's claim of killing an ISIS-K member, the
>> US president and his administration actually have lied ..
>
> https://www.iwp.edu/articles/2020/12/18/mass-murder-in-afghanistan-40-years-of-

"There is shit in the meat," says Eric Schlosser, in his book Fast Food
Nation. Writing about the processing of chickens at factory farms in her
book Spoiled, author Nicols Fox says that the "final product is no different
than if you stuck it in the toilet and ate it." .. Dr. Greger also reports
the meat industry's efforts to cover up the information .. He quotes
industry insiders who admit that truly informed consumers are the last thing
they need .. <https://tinyurl.com/ygbbop65>

...

The Americans are shit eaters.

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sgl3r6$cc1$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> In the last 50 years, the United States has spent around $10 trillion on
> overseas wars ranging from Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and elsewhere
> in Africa and Latin America.

How much did the Soviet Union spend fomenting Communist uprisings?

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sgl3ub$d94$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> The Americans are shit eaters.

I just LUV Russian and Chinese rocket failures because, unlike the rest of
the world, they don't have "destruct" mechanisms in case the rocket goes
off-course, thanks to their paranoia about "spies" hacking into the destruct
frequency, so the rocket falls back to the ground intact.

KABOOM!: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VR-AxrLtW8&t=42s

[Oleg Smirnov]

Byker the Shithead, <news:EcSdnbas8eBzNLL8...@earthlink.com>

> "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sgl3ub$d94$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>> The Americans are shit eaters.
>
> I just LUV Russian and Chinese rocket failures because, unlike the rest of

[Oleg Smirnov]

> <https://tinyurl.com/yhz54k5t> weeklyblitz.net
>
> Biden administration lies, didn't kill any ISIS-suspect in Afghanistan

| <https://on.rt.com/bfsv>
|
| Initially, CENTCOM said that there were "no indications" of civilian
| casualties from the "self-defense" strike. After local reports identified
| the victims by name, however, CENTCOM spokesman .. maintained that the
| casualties were caused not by the US drone, but by the explosion of the
| vehicle itself, however ..

Major Indonesia's news outlet refutes the claim.

| <https://tinyurl.com/yf24yl5z> sindonews.com
|
| The missile did hit not an explosive-laden car of the ISIS-K bombers but
| the car contained innocent children from the Ahmadi family. An adult from
| the family was near the car at the time of the attack and was killed as
| well. "The missile came and hit the car full of children near our house,"
| said Aimal Ahmadi, the brother of the car's owner ..

[Stephen Harding]

Don't forget the cute puppies the American Imperialists also destroyed
along with the cute little children.

But I don't think the US does half as good a job killing innocent
civilians as the Russians and Syrians have managed over the years.


SMH

[Oleg Smirnov]

Stephen Harding, <news:sgr3pf$ui6$1...@dont-email.me>

Your shamans taught you to believe in some things.

But your tribal shamans have no power outside of your tribe.

[Jim Wilkins]

"Stephen Harding" wrote in message news:sgr3pf$ui6$1...@dont-email.me...

Don't forget the cute puppies the American Imperialists also destroyed
along with the cute little children.

------------------

Or the pregnant nuns.

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sgp4fi$j9e$2...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> Major Indonesia's news outlet refutes the claim.

What did you expect to hear from a country that's 87% asslifter?

They'll say whatever they have to to keep car bombs from going off...

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sgrd8r$apf$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> But your tribal shamans have no power outside of your tribe.

As Afghan "tribes" have shown us: https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna35831145

[Oleg Smirnov]

Byker the Shithead, <news:HY6dnZsx4-TFK6_8...@earthlink.com>

<https://on.rt.com/bfzj>

Leaked VIDEO of US Afghan exit offers unvarnished look at chaotic evacuation

Footage posted online by a US Marine provides a behind-the-scenes look at
America's withdrawal from Afghanistan, showing images of panic and chaos at
the Kabul airport in stark contrast to rosier visuals issued by the Pentagon.

...

No wonder the US military shot haphazardly.

[Stephen Harding]

Where is the footage of Russians bombing hospitals in Syria? Surely it
was accurate since they gave the GPS locations of them to both Russians
and Syrians.

When you have the GPS locations of your target, there is no
"haphazardly" about it!

BTW, are you of the "reactionary" Smirnoff vodka clan? If so, good idea
to become a "Smirnov" instead and probably best to keep that quiet given
the KGB Putin in power!


SMH

[Oleg Smirnov]

Stephen Harding, <news:sh36o3$cgj$1...@dont-email.me>

> On 9/4/21 4:30 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:

>> <https://on.rt.com/bfzj>
>>
>> Leaked VIDEO of US Afghan exit offers unvarnished look at chaotic
>> evacuation
>>
>> Footage posted online by a US Marine provides a behind-the-scenes
>> look at America's withdrawal from Afghanistan, showing images of
>> panic and chaos at the Kabul airport in stark contrast to rosier
>> visuals issued by the Pentagon.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> No wonder the US military shot haphazardly.
>
> Where is the footage of Russians bombing hospitals in Syria? Surely it
> was accurate since they gave the GPS locations of them to both Russians
> and Syrians.
>
> When you have the GPS locations of your target, there is no
> "haphazardly" about it!

The Syria-related myths you retell are silly, while the US military are
known to be used to kill indiscriminately even in comfortable conditions.
Thus the infamous Obama-authorized "drone war" killed 10 - 25 (by various
estimates) innocent per one legit target. The US servicemen are fat and
accustomed to take war as a computer shooting game, so it's natural they
would like to kill indiscriminately, and if there's even a little danger
then they would shoot haphazardly in a panic.

> BTW, are you of the "reactionary" Smirnoff vodka clan? If so, good idea
> to become a "Smirnov" instead and probably best to keep that quiet given
> the KGB Putin in power!

It's off topic.

[ZZyXX]

On 9/5/21 1:35 PM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
> Stephen Harding, <news:sh36o3$cgj$1...@dont-email.me>
>> On 9/4/21 4:30 AM, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>
>>> <https://on.rt.com/bfzj>
>>>
>>> Leaked VIDEO of US Afghan exit offers unvarnished look at chaotic
>>> evacuation
>>>
>>> Footage posted online by a US Marine provides a behind-the-scenes
>>> look at America's withdrawal from Afghanistan, showing images of
>>> panic and chaos at the Kabul airport in stark contrast to rosier
>>> visuals issued by the Pentagon.
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> No wonder the US military shot haphazardly.
>>
>> Where is the footage of Russians bombing hospitals in Syria?  Surely it
>> was accurate since they gave the GPS locations of them to both
>> Russians and Syrians.
>>
>> When you have the GPS locations of your target, there is no
>> "haphazardly" about it!
>
> The Syria-related myths you retell are silly, while the US military are
> known to be used to kill indiscriminately even in comfortable conditions.
> Thus the infamous Obama-authorized "drone war" killed 10 - 25 (by various
> estimates) innocent per one legit target. The US servicemen are fat and
> accustomed to take war as a computer shooting game, so it's natural they
> would like to kill indiscriminately, and if there's even a little danger
> then they would shoot haphazardly in a panic.

is that your way of admitting that the superior russian military lacks
sufficient capability to provide computer(s support) to its Heer

>
>> BTW, are you of the "reactionary" Smirnoff vodka clan?  If so, good
>> idea to become a "Smirnov" instead and probably best to keep that
>> quiet given the KGB Putin in power!
>
> It's off topic.

BTW, we are still waiting for you to provide figures on deaths,
injuries, material loss, graft of russia while in Afghanistan

[Byker]

"ZZyXX" wrote in message news:sh3i2m$1rd8$1...@gioia.aioe.org...

>
> BTW, we are still waiting for you to provide figures on deaths, injuries,
> material loss, graft of russia while in Afghanistan

The Russkies failed to kill the Afghan president with poison, so they
had to shoot him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHw-vuHTMok

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sh39md$180$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> The Syria-related myths you retell are silly, while the US military are
> known to be used to kill indiscriminately even in comfortable conditions.
> Thus the infamous Obama-authorized "drone war" killed 10 - 25 (by various
> estimates) innocent per one legit target.

Call it proactive suicide-bomber removal:

https://thecandideye.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/kiddiejihad.jpg

https://observer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/gettyimages-2867765.jpg

[Oleg Smirnov]

Byker the Shithead, <news:lqidnekBdLQvYKr8...@earthlink.com>

> "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sh39md$180$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>> the US military are
>> known to be used to kill indiscriminately even in comfortable conditions.
>> Thus the infamous Obama-authorized "drone war" killed 10 - 25 (by various
>> estimates) innocent per one legit target.
>
> Call it proactive suicide-bomber removal:
>
> https://thecandideye.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/kiddiejihad.jpg
>
> https://observer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/gettyimages-2867765.jpg

The Saudis had symbolically castrated America <https://archive.is/F7Jd7>,
and America - in its fiery, brutal impotence, - invaded some nations that
had nothing to do with her castration. ISIS killed few Americans in Kabul,
and America responded with the 'proactive' murder of ten Afghan children.
Such a pattern.

[Dean Markley]

Oh, Oleg. You are so naive and mislead....

Have you never heard of Josef Stalin?

https://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM

Now there is interesting reading about your own history.

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:sha327$i96$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> The Saudis had symbolically castrated America <https://archive.is/F7Jd7>,
> and America - in its fiery, brutal impotence, - invaded some nations that
> had nothing to do with her castration.

Like the Czarists and Soviets did?

[ZZyXX]

the Afghani's actually castrated Russia

[George Black]

You seem to be missing the nearly 3000 Americans who went to work on
9/11 and didn't go home..
Wasn't there a school in Russia that got invaded by Muslimes ?????

[George Black]

How about Beslan?
Beslan school attack | Siege, Massacre, & Aftermath
I thought it was muslimes but evidently it was the neighbours

[Oleg Smirnov]

Dean Markley, <news:e994df78-ff78-47a9...@googlegroups.com>

> On Wednesday, September 8, 2021 at 6:25:14 AM UTC-4, Oleg Smirnov wrote:
>> Byker the Shithead, <news:lqidnekBdLQvYKr8...@earthlink.com>

>>>> the US military are
>>>> known to be used to kill indiscriminately even in comfortable conditions.
>>>> Thus the infamous Obama-authorized "drone war" killed 10 - 25 (by various
>>>> estimates) innocent per one legit target.
>>>
>>> Call it proactive suicide-bomber removal:
>>>
>>> https://thecandideye.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/kiddiejihad.jpg
>>>
>>> https://observer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/gettyimages-2867765.jpg
>>
>> The Saudis had symbolically castrated America <https://archive.is/F7Jd7>,
>> and America - in its fiery, brutal impotence, - invaded some nations that
>> had nothing to do with her castration. ISIS killed few Americans in Kabul,
>> and America responded with the 'proactive' murder of ten Afghan children.
>> Such a pattern.
>
> Oh, Oleg. You are so naive and mislead....
>
> Have you never heard of Josef Stalin?
>
> https://hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM
>
> Now there is interesting reading about your own history.

Do you think something that happened
100 years ago might justify your current
shitty affairs?

This is pathetic.

[Oleg Smirnov]

George Black, <news:IpadnXeYObI5hKT8...@giganews.com>

Hey, dullard, the point is about how America responeded.

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:shb62l$af0$2...@os.motzarella.org...

George Black, <news:IpadnXeYObI5hKT8...@giganews.com>

>>
>> How about Beslan?
>> Beslan school attack | Siege, Massacre, & Aftermath
>> I thought it was muslimes but evidently it was the neighbours
>
> Hey, dullard, the point is about how America responeded.

Russia responded by spraying lead everywhere. Most of the victims
died from Army rifle bullets, not from Chechen handgun slugs...

[Byker]

"Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:shb62f$af0$1...@os.motzarella.org...

>
> Do you think something that happened
> 100 years ago might justify your current
> shitty affairs?
>
> This is pathetic.

Half of all Russians still admire Stalin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7rjaDBAe0w

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/04/16/stalins-approval-rating-among-russians-hits-record-high-poll-a65245

[Byker]

"George Black" wrote in message
news:MOGdnR1Ro8o8haT8...@giganews.com...

>
> Wasn't there a school in Russia that got invaded by Muslimes ?????

Ah, the Beslan School Massacre:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cntbb1a0Gsc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E65yotGs1HE

Don't forget the Moscow theater siege:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItCEBhTvuLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXY6LdzRXQo

[George Black]

There are so many

[Oleg Smirnov]

Byker the Shithead, <news:ev-dnRSupqUi06T8...@earthlink.com>

> "Oleg Smirnov" wrote in message news:shb62l$af0$2...@os.motzarella.org...
>> George Black, <news:IpadnXeYObI5hKT8...@giganews.com>

>>>>>>> the US military are
>>>>>>> known to be used to kill indiscriminately even in comfortable
>>>>>>> conditions. Thus the infamous Obama-authorized "drone war" killed
>>>>>>> 10 - 25 (by various estimates) innocent per one legit target.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Call it proactive suicide-bomber removal:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://thecandideye.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/kiddiejihad.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://observer.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/04/gettyimages-2867765.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> The Saudis had symbolically castrated America
>>>>> <https://archive.is/F7Jd7>, and America - in its fiery, brutal
>>>>> impotence, - invaded some nations that had nothing to do with
>>>>> her castration. ISIS killed few Americans in Kabul, and America
>>>>> responded with the 'proactive' murder of ten Afghan children.
>>>>> Such a pattern.

> Russia responded by spraying lead everywhere.

Watch Byker <https://www.itemfix.com/v?t=3q4usy>