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USAF Pilot Critiques Red Flag Action

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dump...@hotmail.com

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Nov 6, 2008, 12:07:41 AM11/6/08
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Nov 6, 2008, 4:13:11 PM11/6/08
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On Nov 5, 9:07 pm, dumpst...@hotmail.com wrote:
> See:
>
> http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story.jsp?id=news/RED11058.xml...
>
> and
>
> http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/defense/index.jsp?plckController...

>
> It looks like Red Flag is as much an intel-gathering exercise as it
> is a combat exercise.  :)


Interesting quote:

"He praised the F-22 as the next great dogfighter. But
he faulted the fact that it carries too few missiles and
contends that the on-board cannon could be a life-saver,"

In this conflict, guns are also proving useful for strafing.
I wonder if the Navy and USMC are beginning to regret
their decision to go gun-less on thier versions of JSF?

I know there's a podded gun in the works for JSF, but
that will use up space/weight that could be used for
other things (podded guns are generally less space-
efficient than built-in ones).

WaltBJ

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Nov 7, 2008, 10:26:23 PM11/7/08
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SNIP>

> I know there's a podded gun in the works for JSF, but
> that will use up space/weight that could be used for
> other things (podded guns are generally less space-
> efficient than built-in ones).
>
>
SUU23 on the F4D/E worked pretty good. 1100 rounds and you could do a
world of hurt with it.
Walt BJ

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Nov 8, 2008, 4:00:18 AM11/8/08
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According to:

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0163.shtml

and

http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:azTqrU6KP7oJ:www.gdatp.com/Products/PDFs/JSF.pdf+jsf+gun+pod+25mm&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us

The gun on the JSF will be a 4-barreled version of the GAU-12/U
called the GAU-22/A. In it's podded form, it will be carried on a
dedicated centerline pylon between the aft portion of the weapons
bays.

I wonder what effect that will have on the aircraft's ability to drop
weapons from the bays?

dump...@hotmail.com

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Nov 10, 2008, 5:30:52 PM11/10/08
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dump...@hotmail.com

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Nov 12, 2008, 11:14:13 PM11/12/08
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Pilot's YouTube indiscretions could trigger wider air power debate

See:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2008/11/10/318544/pilots-youtube-indiscretions-could-trigger-wider-air-power.html

I wonder if the guy in the video is going to suffer some damage to
his career because of this.

dump...@hotmail.com

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Nov 16, 2008, 2:31:20 AM11/16/08
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On Nov 8, 1:00 am, dumpst...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 7, 7:26 pm, WaltBJ <waltb...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > SNIP>> I know there's a podded gun in the works for JSF, but
> > > that will use up space/weight that could be used for
> > > other things (podded guns are generally less space-
> > > efficient than built-in ones).
>
> > SUU23 on the F4D/E worked pretty good. 1100 rounds and you could do a
> > world of hurt with it.
> > Walt BJ
>
> According to:
>
> http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/planes/q0163.shtml
>
> and
>
> http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:azTqrU6KP7oJ:www.gdatp.com/Produ...

>
> The gun on the JSF will be a 4-barreled version of the GAU-12/U
> called the GAU-22/A.  In it's podded form, it will be carried on a
> dedicated centerline pylon between the aft portion of the weapons
> bays.
>
> I wonder what effect that will have on the aircraft's ability to drop
> weapons from the bays?

No one?

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Nov 20, 2008, 11:59:48 AM11/20/08
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