Convair Model 49 AAFSS
Rob Arndt
David E. Powell
> http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Convair49-SPFX.jpg
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> http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/convair-49.phphttp://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Convair49Page.htm
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> Rob
That would ruin Charlie!
LIBERATOR
> http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Convair49-SPFX.jpg
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> http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/convair-49.phphttp://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Convair49Page.htm
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> Rob
Okay, who's the German behind that design behind the American who is
said to have designed it?
Rob Arndt
> On Apr 6, 4:35�pm, Rob Arndt <teuton...@aol.com> wrote:
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> >http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Convair49-SPFX.jpg
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> > Rob
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> Okay, who's the German behind that design behind the American who is
> said to have designed it?
Lippisch worked for Convair and had a similarly-configured aerodyne
while working for Collins (1951-53)... so go figure... Some believe
the 1967 Convair Model 49 AAFSS was based on the French SNECMA
coleopter (1959), but they are different types. Lippisch was working
from the Third Reich forward on an armed machine that carried over to
Collins and then he worked for Convair which amazingly came up with a
similar VTOL combat craft.
And there is also the Fw Triebflugel and Heinkel coleopter designs
Wespe & Lerche II from WW2:
http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/FOCKE1.htm
http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/HEINKEL%20WESPE.htm
So the concept of a VTOL coleopter attack a/c was not new in 1967 at
all.
Lippisch aerodyne:
http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/picturese/lip18.jpg
Proposed unmanned Lippisch military aerodyne development:
http://www.jp-petit.org/OVNIS/UN_OVNI_A_VINON/illustrations/lippisch_aerodyne3.jpg
http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/LippischAerodyneBoxArt.jpg
SNECMA C.450-01 Coleoptere:
http://www.airteamimages.com/pics/67/67572_800.jpg
Rob
LIBERATOR
> On Apr 7, 9:39 pm, LIBERATOR <spy.exp...@linuxmail.org> wrote:
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> > On Apr 6, 4:35 pm, Rob Arndt <teuton...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > >http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Convair49-SPFX.jpg
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> > >http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/convair-49.phphttp://www.fant...
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> > > Rob
>
> > Okay, who's the German behind that design behind the American who is
> > said to have designed it?
>
> Lippisch worked for Convair and had a similarly-configured aerodyne
> while working for Collins (1951-53)... so go figure... Some believe
> the 1967 Convair Model 49 AAFSS was based on the French SNECMA
> coleopter (1959), but they are different types. Lippisch was working
> from the Third Reich forward on an armed machine that carried over to
> Collins and then he worked for Convair which amazingly came up with a
> similar VTOL combat craft.
>
> And there is also the Fw Triebflugel and Heinkel coleopter designs
>
> So the concept of a VTOL coleopter attack a/c was not new in 1967 at
> all.
>
> Lippisch aerodyne:http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/picturese/lip18.jpg
>
I have shivers going up my back, and with seeing two in the field with
men standing next to them, did any of these actually fly on or off
record?
Is there an advantage to these craft compared to the helicopters of
today (I would think these are way advantageous except for carrying
cargo or personnel).
This is real stuff yet would pass for sci-fi movie thriller with a
large following. That movie should happen.
That German creativity, it wasn't only German it was result of every
human being calibrated by love & loyalty as their regular social mood
& commerce. This creativity is one of a kind, no designers today can
even fathom what is shown by your website. The thinking & emotional
basis could not exist anywhere else other than Nazi Germany because of
the "comrade in folk" basis for society, only achieved by ending
alienation by ending debt-finance.
http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/HEINKEL%20WESPE.htm
We know where George Lucas stole his idea for the X-Wing Fighter, he
stole it from Adolf Hitlers scientists namely Heinkel, and then he
used Star Wars & the creativity he steals from the Nazis, to defame
and persecute Nazi Germany, by the subliminal methods of same
uniforms, same aesthetics & so on.
Forget me rambling but please comment on why we don't see these craft
(of any designer it doesn't matter, I'll know they came from 3rd
Reich) flying around today.
I still have shivers after writing all this... the thinking basing the
designs is of a higher source of spirit and that's what gives me the
shivers...
LIBERATOR
> On Apr 8, 12:48 am, Rob Arndt <teuton...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 7, 9:39 pm, LIBERATOR <spy.exp...@linuxmail.org> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 6, 4:35 pm, Rob Arndt <teuton...@aol.com> wrote:
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> > > >http://www.fantastic-plastic.com/Convair49-SPFX.jpg
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> > > >http://www.aviastar.org/helicopters_eng/convair-49.phphttp://www.fant...
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> > > > Rob
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> > > Okay, who's the German behind that design behind the American who is
> > > said to have designed it?
>
> > Lippisch worked for Convair and had a similarly-configured aerodyne
> > while working for Collins (1951-53)... so go figure... Some believe
> > the 1967 Convair Model 49 AAFSS was based on the French SNECMA
> > coleopter (1959), but they are different types. Lippisch was working
> > from the Third Reich forward on an armed machine that carried over to
> > Collins and then he worked for Convair which amazingly came up with a
> > similar VTOL combat craft.
>
> > And there is also the Fw Triebflugel and Heinkel coleopter designs
>
> > So the concept of a VTOL coleopter attack a/c was not new in 1967 at
> > all.
>
> > Lippisch aerodyne:http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/picturese/lip18.jpg
>
> > Proposed unmanned Lippisch military aerodyne development:http://www.jp-petit.org/OVNIS/UN_OVNI_A_VINON/illustrations/lippisch_...
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Or maybe it was Fockwulf that George Lucas copied, either one
instigates the X-wing fighter from Star Wars. But George Lucas
couldn't come up with it on his own as Heinkel or FockeWulf did.
Rob Arndt
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Lucas DID use a lot from Germany in "Star Wars":
- Vader comes from German word Vater= Father (Darth Vader= Dark
Father)
- Solo's gun was Mauser C-96 mod
- Stormtroopers (take your pic from WW1 assault kommandos to Hitler's
Brownshirts)
- Stormtrooper laser rifle was MG-34 mod
- Death Star Turbo laser was a Flak 88 mod:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3531/3226503890_26aa2c7e86.jpg
88mm:
http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/88_uk.jpg
- Death Star was taken from Hitler's Solar Cannon Peenemunde project
- Princess Leia's "cinnamon bun" hairstyle is traditional Dutch/German
Bavarian look
- Imperial troops uniforms combo of traditional Prussian military look
and Allgemeine SS
- Empire Galactic symbol in form of German Hagal Rune
http://www.typophile.com/files/200px-Star_wars_galactic_empire_emblem_4892.svg.png
Hagal rune:
http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/images/encyclopediaimages/h/ha/hagal_rune_white_on_black.svg.png
There is also the suggestion that the Millenium Falcon looks
suspiciously like a German naval base or shipyard in configuration,
although I have no idea which one...
Other military stuff:
- Stormtrooper pistol is Sterling SMG mod
- Trench battle was based on WW2 fighter simulations taken from ETO
Rob
LIBERATOR
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> > - Show quoted text -
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> Lucas DID use a lot from Germany in "Star Wars":
>
> - Vader comes from German word Vater= Father (Darth Vader= Dark
> Father)
> - Solo's gun was Mauser C-96 mod
> - Stormtroopers (take your pic from WW1 assault kommandos to Hitler's
> Brownshirts)
> - Stormtrooper laser rifle was MG-34 mod
> - Death Star Turbo laser was a Flak 88 mod:http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3531/3226503890_26aa2c7e86.jpg
> 88mm:http://www.achtungpanzer.com/images/88_uk.jpg
> - Death Star was taken from Hitler's Solar Cannon Peenemunde project
> - Princess Leia's "cinnamon bun" hairstyle is traditional Dutch/German
> Bavarian look
> - Imperial troops uniforms combo of traditional Prussian military look
> and Allgemeine SS
> Hagal rune:http://image.absoluteastronomy.com/images/encyclopediaimages/h/ha/hag...
>
> There is also the suggestion that the Millenium Falcon looks
> suspiciously like a German naval base or shipyard in configuration,
> although I have no idea which one...
>
> Other military stuff:
>
> - Stormtrooper pistol is Sterling SMG mod
> - Trench battle was based on WW2 fighter simulations taken from ETO
>
Thanks for validating my points.
Lucas uses their creativity as his own, then denounces the ones who
created it.
Quite the dark evil man.