Rammjaeger Info for Lazy Bastards- from RAM Archive
Rob Arndt
The Germans got the idea of ramming a/c from the Russians as early as
1941 when they were ramming German bombers in Taran attacks by Young
Communists (Komsomoltsi) using Polikarpov I-16s with a steel-plated
prop which would come from astern to "buzzsaw" the German bomber
tail.
The Luftwaffe considered the ramming idea as early as Sept 1943 as
well as explosive-laden Ju-88s exploding in Allied aerial formations.
The ideas were rejected by Adolf Galland; however Major Hans von
Kornatski advocated Sturmstaffeln (Assault Squadrons) equipped with
Rammjaeger Fw-190 fighters.
The first Rammjaeger units were set up in April 1944 with the
Fw-190A-6 upgraded with protection armor and armed with 4x 20mm
MG-151/20 cannon. The next were upgraded Fw-190A-8/R7s with armored
leading edges. They were used on Nov 2, 1944 against a USAAF 1000
bomber raid, escorted by 600 P-51s and P-38s, were met by 500 LW
interceptors with 61 Rammjaeger a/c. The Rammjaeger a/c claimed 30 of
the 80 bombers destroyed. 30 of the 61 Rammjaeger a/c were lost.
Due to lack of a/c the Sturmstaffeln attacks waned until again by
April 7, 1945 120 Fw-190s and Bf-109Gs attacked a raid of 1000 USAAF
bombers with 800 escorts. Since Goebbels had called for suicide
squads
since March 31, 1945 (documented by his diary entry) the ensuing
battle was frantic and most of the rammjaeger a/c covered by Me-262s
were lost. Only 8 bombers were rammed and the LW lost almost all the
Rammjaeger a/c- only 15 returning home with 28 successful parachute
drops but with 77 pilots killed.
That was the final use of the Rammjaeger a/c.
~ Suicide Squads, Richard O'Neill, pgs 196-197
Rob
Dean Markley
Thanks from one Lazy Bastard.
Daryl
> Repost from Dec 6, 2010:
>
> The Germans got the idea of ramming a/c from the Russians as early as
> 1941 when they were ramming German bombers in Taran attacks by Young
> Communists (Komsomoltsi) using Polikarpov I-16s with a steel-plated
> prop which would come from astern to "buzzsaw" the German bomber
> tail.
>
> The Luftwaffe considered the ramming idea as early as Sept 1943 as
> well as explosive-laden Ju-88s exploding in Allied aerial formations.
> The ideas were rejected by Adolf Galland; however Major Hans von
> Kornatski advocated Sturmstaffeln (Assault Squadrons) equipped with
> Rammjaeger Fw-190 fighters.
They also used ME109s for the ones right out of flight school.
Once again, you messed up the Cherman History.
>
> The first Rammjaeger units were set up in April 1944 with the
> Fw-190A-6 upgraded with protection armor and armed with 4x 20mm
> MG-151/20 cannon. The next were upgraded Fw-190A-8/R7s with armored
> leading edges. They were used on Nov 2, 1944 against a USAAF 1000
> bomber raid, escorted by 600 P-51s and P-38s, were met by 500 LW
> interceptors with 61 Rammjaeger a/c. The Rammjaeger a/c claimed 30 of
> the 80 bombers destroyed. 30 of the 61 Rammjaeger a/c were lost.
>
> Due to lack of a/c the Sturmstaffeln attacks waned until again by
> April 7, 1945 120 Fw-190s and Bf-109Gs attacked a raid of 1000 USAAF
> bombers with 800 escorts. Since Goebbels had called for suicide
> squads
For the ME109, the primary pilots were fresh out of flight
school. Some as young as 17.
> since March 31, 1945 (documented by his diary entry) the ensuing
> battle was frantic and most of the rammjaeger a/c covered by Me-262s
> were lost. Only 8 bombers were rammed and the LW lost almost all the
> Rammjaeger a/c- only 15 returning home with 28 successful parachute
> drops but with 77 pilots killed.
>
> That was the final use of the Rammjaeger a/c.
>
> ~ Suicide Squads, Richard O'Neill, pgs 196-197
Gee, I stated pretty much the same thing in the past and now that
you have just stated. Does that make you a bigger liar?
Her lil adolf.
Rob Arndt
This was from last year and at least I cite reputable books.
You, ignorant asshole, only spew opinion with little to nothing to
back it up.
I love it when Euno nails you technically too :-)
Rob
Daryl
The Cites have been done to death and we all are pretty well up
on them. You are thinking that you are the only one that can
read. Plus, you believe that anyone that prints the facts other
than you and your lil buddy are lying. Then you come back and
print it almost verbatum. You are a sad piece of work.
>
> I love it when Euno nails you technically too :-)
He's not doing such a good job of it.
On another note: I notice that the Nazi White Supremacist in
California was shot and killed. You going to try and fill that
position?
David E. Powell
as they were no longer "front line" but were available in some
numbers, and it wasn't much chance they'd get more than one use out of
the plane involved. Similar to the Japanese with the older planes as
Kamikazes, though the Japanese used some of their newer planes as well
in that role.
Still, horrifying stuff. The History Channel did a "Dogfights" show
with a Sonderkommando Elbe pilot who survived a ram (and being shot up
by another fighter before he rammed his Bf-109 into a bomber) and got
into a lot of detail about the missions. They also interviewed allied
bomber crew members who encountered this stuff in the final days of
the war in Europe.