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Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
May 20, 2013, 11:46:31 PM5/20/13
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Protests were held on Friday to mark the Guant�namo hunger strike�s
100th day. Outside the White House, demonstrators wearing orange
jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
rally in Times Square.
Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
that Congress is holding him up, or there�s these laws, or it�s
complicated. As far as I can tell, it�s not complicated. That�s a
military prison down there, and President Obama is the
commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
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Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
shitcan him, i say
;-)
--
Each person has an individual responsibility to
determine if his actions are moral, and no government
or army may ever take that responsibility away.
definition:
murder - the immoral killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
May 21, 2013, 12:21:19 AM5/21/13
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In article <B_qdnYTzh7yRcwfM...@supernews.com>,
"Dr. Vincent Quin, PhrauD." on Monday, May 20, 2013 21:21:17 PM spewed
commitment to your philosophy?
"Dr. Vincent Quin, PhrauD." on Monday, May 20, 2013 21:21:17 PM spewed
> Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
>
> shitcan him, i say
why not volunteer to house those now housed in Gitmo, just to show your
>
> shitcan him, i say
commitment to your philosophy?
a425couple
May 21, 2013, 9:45:24 AM5/21/13
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"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." <dr...@coldine.edu> wrote in message...
> Protests were held on Friday to mark the Guant�namo hunger strike�s
> 100th day. Outside the White House, demonstrators wearing orange
> jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
> the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
> rally in Times Square.
> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
> that Congress is holding him up, or there�s these laws, or it�s
> complicated. As far as I can tell, it�s not complicated. That�s a
> military prison down there, and President Obama is the
> commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
> pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
> shitcan him, i say
> ;-)
Why weren't you saying to "shitcan" him from Feb 2012 to Nov. 2012?
> 100th day. Outside the White House, demonstrators wearing orange
> jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
> the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
> rally in Times Square.
> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
> that Congress is holding him up, or there�s these laws, or it�s
> complicated. As far as I can tell, it�s not complicated. That�s a
> military prison down there, and President Obama is the
> commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
> pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
> shitcan him, i say
> ;-)
Frank Galikanokus
May 21, 2013, 10:48:08 AM5/21/13
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"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Protests were held on Friday to mark the Guantánamo hunger strike’s
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> 100th day. Outside the White House, demonstrators wearing orange
> jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
> the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
> rally in Times Square.
>
> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
> that Congress is holding him up, or there’s these laws, or it’s
> jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
> the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
> rally in Times Square.
>
> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
> complicated. As far as I can tell, it’s not complicated. That’s a
> military prison down there, and President Obama is the
> commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
> pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
>
> shitcan him, i say
> ;-)
>
> --
> Each person has an individual responsibility to
> determine if his actions are moral, and no government
> or army may ever take that responsibility away.
>
> definition:
> murder - the immoral killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
Ya don't think the republican degenerates in Washington had anything to do with it do ya
> commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
> pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
>
> shitcan him, i say
> ;-)
>
> --
> Each person has an individual responsibility to
> determine if his actions are moral, and no government
> or army may ever take that responsibility away.
>
> definition:
> murder - the immoral killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
dumb ass?
JAM
Frank Galikanokus
May 21, 2013, 10:58:04 AM5/21/13
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"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Protests were held on Friday to mark the Guantánamo hunger strike’s
> 100th day. Outside the White House, demonstrators wearing orange
> jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
> the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
> rally in Times Square.
>
> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
> jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
> the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
> rally in Times Square.
>
> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
> that Congress is holding him up, or there’s these laws, or it’s
> complicated. As far as I can tell, it’s not complicated. That’s a
> military prison down there, and President Obama is the
> commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
> pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
>
> shitcan him, i say
> ;-)
>
> --
> Each person has an individual responsibility to
> determine if his actions are moral, and no government
> or army may ever take that responsibility away.
>
> definition:
> murder - the immoral killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
It is the republican degenerates in Washington that passed laws to prevent the closing.
> commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
> pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
>
> shitcan him, i say
> ;-)
>
> --
> Each person has an individual responsibility to
> determine if his actions are moral, and no government
> or army may ever take that responsibility away.
>
> definition:
> murder - the immoral killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
If you cannot grasp the simplest facts then shut the fuck up!
JAM
Ian B MacLure
May 22, 2013, 12:40:11 AM5/22/13
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I don't see what the problem is.
If the jihadis want to starve themselves to death, by all means
stand back and let nature take its course.
Ian B MacLure
May 22, 2013, 12:44:17 AM5/22/13
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Wrong, wrong, ohhhhh so wrong.
You must mean:
"Hello, this is Obama, throw him in prison."
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
May 22, 2013, 7:35:55 PM5/22/13
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>> Protests were held on Friday to mark the Guantánamo hunger strike’s
Your choice, Mitt, was far worse than Obama...far worse.
;-)
>> 100th day. Outside the White House, demonstrators wearing orange
>> jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
>> the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
>> rally in Times Square.
>> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
>> jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
>> the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
>> rally in Times Square.
>> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
>> that Congress is holding him up, or there’s these laws, or it’s
>> complicated. As far as I can tell, it’s not complicated. That’s a
>> military prison down there, and President Obama is the
>> commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
>> pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
>> shitcan him, i say
>> ;-)
>
>
> Why weren't you saying to "shitcan" him from Feb 2012 to Nov. 2012?
Son, I did post to shitcan him then...and I did not vote for him.
>> commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
>> pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
>> shitcan him, i say
>> ;-)
>
>
> Why weren't you saying to "shitcan" him from Feb 2012 to Nov. 2012?
Your choice, Mitt, was far worse than Obama...far worse.
;-)
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
May 22, 2013, 7:36:23 PM5/22/13
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stand and fight it. You may be too dense to see the options he
has...as President and as CIC.
;-)
Frank Galikanokus
May 23, 2013, 10:54:29 AM5/23/13
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JAM
Frank Galikanokus
May 23, 2013, 10:58:34 AM5/23/13
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one.
But I guess if you are the kind of person that is OK with torture and indefinite detention
then it's not a problem.
JAM
Ian B MacLure
May 24, 2013, 12:26:34 AM5/24/13
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Frank Galikanokus <FrankGal...@nospam.net> wrote in
news:519E2E9A...@nospam.net:
> Ian B MacLure wrote:
>>
>> I don't see what the problem is.
>> If the jihadis want to starve themselves to death, by all
>> means stand back and let nature take its course.
>
> The problem is that they have never been charged with a crime much
> less been convicted of one.
They aren't ordinary criminals subject to the civilian
legal system, they are unlawful combatants who could
be executed out of hand for their temerity.
> But I guess if you are the kind of person that is OK with torture and
> indefinite detention then it's not a problem.
Please define torture. I have noted that the usual suspects
tend to equate mild discomfort with the rack and death of
a thousand cuts.
IBM
news:519E2E9A...@nospam.net:
> Ian B MacLure wrote:
>>
>> I don't see what the problem is.
>> If the jihadis want to starve themselves to death, by all
>> means stand back and let nature take its course.
>
> The problem is that they have never been charged with a crime much
> less been convicted of one.
legal system, they are unlawful combatants who could
be executed out of hand for their temerity.
> But I guess if you are the kind of person that is OK with torture and
> indefinite detention then it's not a problem.
tend to equate mild discomfort with the rack and death of
a thousand cuts.
IBM
Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D.
May 24, 2013, 2:30:51 AM5/24/13
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Frank Galikanokus wrote:
> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
>
>>Frank Galikanokus wrote:
>>
>>>"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>Protests were held on Friday to mark the Guant�namo hunger strike�s
> "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
>
>>Frank Galikanokus wrote:
>>
>>>"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>100th day. Outside the White House, demonstrators wearing orange
>>>>jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
>>>>the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
>>>>rally in Times Square.
>>>>
>>>> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
>>>>jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
>>>>the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
>>>>rally in Times Square.
>>>>
>>>> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
>>>> that Congress is holding him up, or there�s these laws, or it�s
>>>> complicated. As far as I can tell, it�s not complicated. That�s a
>>>> military prison down there, and President Obama is the
>>>> commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
>>>> pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
>>>>
>>>>shitcan him, i say
>>>>;-)
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Each person has an individual responsibility to
>>>>determine if his actions are moral, and no government
>>>>or army may ever take that responsibility away.
>>>>
>>>>definition:
>>>> murder - the immoral killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
>>>
>>>
>>>Ya don't think the republican degenerates in Washington had anything to do with it do ya
>>>dumb ass?
>>>
>>>JAM
>>
>>Makes no difference, son, he can still do something, take a
>>stand and fight it. You may be too dense to see the options he
>>has...as President and as CIC.
>>;-)
>
>
> Unless you can show how these options work we will still think you are full of shit.
>
> JAM
Look dumb ass...try using your brain. Does "take a stand and fight
>>>> commander-in-chief of the military. As far as I can tell, he has to
>>>> pick up his phone and call someone and say, 'Close the prison.'"
>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>Obama has broken his 2008 pre-election promise to close it.
>>>>
>>>>shitcan him, i say
>>>>;-)
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Each person has an individual responsibility to
>>>>determine if his actions are moral, and no government
>>>>or army may ever take that responsibility away.
>>>>
>>>>definition:
>>>> murder - the immoral killing of people, NO EXCEPTIONS.
>>>
>>>
>>>Ya don't think the republican degenerates in Washington had anything to do with it do ya
>>>dumb ass?
>>>
>>>JAM
>>
>>Makes no difference, son, he can still do something, take a
>>stand and fight it. You may be too dense to see the options he
>>has...as President and as CIC.
>>;-)
>
>
> Unless you can show how these options work we will still think you are full of shit.
>
> JAM
it" mean anything to your peabrain? You've advocated just giving up.
For starters, use the bully pulpit...every day. There are many
more options available, but see if you can grasp the bully pulpit idea.
usenet...full of dumb asses and peabrains...<sigh>
;-)
Yeff
May 24, 2013, 10:45:29 AM5/24/13
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On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:26:34 -0500, Ian B MacLure wrote:
> Please define torture. I have noted that the usual suspects
> tend to equate mild discomfort with the rack and death of
> a thousand cuts.
I went through a DOD hostage survival course that was two days of
> Please define torture. I have noted that the usual suspects
> tend to equate mild discomfort with the rack and death of
> a thousand cuts.
classroom instruction and one day of practical.
The instructors were down in San Antonio from the survival school at
Fairchild. One of them had been an interpreter with the USMC before
enlisting in the Air Force. Sergeant Habib, formerly of Lebanon.
In the practical scenario I was a part of our plane had already been
hijacked and five us were sitting at the front of the room. The rest of
the class was sitting at the back of the room and the lights were out.
An overhead projector was used to illuminate us.
Sgt. Habib was telling us five that, as a show of good faith to the
United States, one of us would be released but we had to decide who that
person would be.
As he's talking the light from the overhead is shining directly into my
eyes so I look to the side.
*BLAM!*
From out of the darkness a hand came and slapped me across the face.
"Look at me when I talk to you! LOOK AT ME WHEN I TALK TO YOU!"
After getting my bell rung with no warning I decided looking at him when
he talked to me was sage advice that I would follow immediately. I may
have written it down, too.
So, should I sue the US Air Force and the US Government for torture?
How about all of those special forces personnel from the different
services who have been water boarded?
After the scenario ended Sgt. Habib came over to shake my hand and make
sure my head was out of the scenario and back to reality. I told him I
was happy he hadn't thrown water in my face and slammed me into the
walls like he did the guy in the scenario ahead of me. I also told him
my name was "Jeff", like my mother named me, and not "Blackie", like he
had been calling me based on the color of my skin.
We voted to allow the one girl in our group to be released and Sgt.
Habib objected, wondering why the oppressed "Blackie" wasn't allowed to
go home. Funny, I didn't feel oppressed. I just felt like crying like
a girl because the side of my face was on fire.
--
-Jeff B.
zoo...@fastmail.fm
"Excuse me.
I don't mean to impose,
but I am the Ocean."
~ The Salton Sea
Frank Galikanokus
May 24, 2013, 12:37:49 PM5/24/13
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"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
>
> Frank Galikanokus wrote:
> > "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
> >
> >>Frank Galikanokus wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>Protests were held on Friday to mark the Guant�namo hunger strike�s
>
> Frank Galikanokus wrote:
> > "Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
> >
> >>Frank Galikanokus wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Dr. Vincent Quin, Ph.D." wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>-------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>>100th day. Outside the White House, demonstrators wearing orange
> >>>>jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
> >>>>the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
> >>>>rally in Times Square.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
> >>>> that Congress is holding him up, or there�s these laws, or it�s
> >>>>jumpsuits and carrying signs were arrested after refusing to leave
> >>>>the sidewalk. In New York City, dozens of people gathered for a
> >>>>rally in Times Square.
> >>>>
> >>>> Ben Case: "As far as I can tell, President Obama wants to say
> >>>> complicated. As far as I can tell, it�s not complicated. That�s a
more options available? I'm waiting for you to enumerate them and prove you are not full
of shit.
JAM
Ian B MacLure
May 26, 2013, 10:27:57 AM5/26/13
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Yeff <zoo...@fastmail.fm> wrote in news:dt19wxwhzv4t
$.d...@lemming.militia.com:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:26:34 -0500, Ian B MacLure wrote:
>
>> Please define torture. I have noted that the usual suspects
>> tend to equate mild discomfort with the rack and death of
>> a thousand cuts.
>
> I went through a DOD hostage survival course that was two days of
> classroom instruction and one day of practical.
A few of the clownshoes whining about "torture" should be
subjected to the full SER course experience on an involuntary basis.
Might give them some perspective.
IBM
$.d...@lemming.militia.com:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 23:26:34 -0500, Ian B MacLure wrote:
>
>> Please define torture. I have noted that the usual suspects
>> tend to equate mild discomfort with the rack and death of
>> a thousand cuts.
>
> I went through a DOD hostage survival course that was two days of
> classroom instruction and one day of practical.
subjected to the full SER course experience on an involuntary basis.
Might give them some perspective.
IBM
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