Tu-160 names (for Ken Duffey)
terebov
the Blackjacks come. I'm almost sure Ken does know but...
The most recent issue of 'Aviatsi_ia i kosmonavtika' runs
an article on Lt. Gen. (ret.), twice Hero of the Soviet Union
Aleksandr Ignatievich Molodchii, who is now alive, and
after whom a Blackjack was (is?) named. The article is
signed by Col.-Gen. Vasilii Reshetnikov after whom another
big bird is named. Oleg
Michel
wrote:
are you talking about the "sovjet"name for the Blackjack??
because when you talk about "Blackjack" this name is/was assigned by
NATO
Like all Bombers etc... NATO assigned names starting with B for
Bombers
F for fighters (Fishbed,Fencer etc....)
Walter Bjorneby
terebov wrote:
> Ken Dhiuffey once asked where from the 'personal' names of
> the Blackjacks come. I'm almost sure Ken does know but...
>
> The most recent issue of 'Aviatsi_ia i kosmonavtika' runs
> an article on Lt. Gen. (ret.), twice Hero of the Soviet Union
> Aleksandr Ignatievich Molodchii, who is now alive, and
> after whom a Blackjack was (is?) named. The article is
> signed by Col.-Gen. Vasilii Reshetnikov after whom another
> big bird is named. Oleg
So, is that the generic name for the planes as in "there goes a
Moldchii!" or does one of them carry the man's name up front?
Walt BJ
Simon H. Lee
line of high-kicking electrons to spell out:
>So, is that the generic name for the planes as in "there goes a
>Moldchii!" or does one of them carry the man's name up front?
> Walt BJ
Just read something about this in AFM... each plane's been
given a famous person's name.
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Michel wrote:
> are you talking about the "sovjet"name for the Blackjack??
No it is a personal name for particular aircraft.
Alsmost all Tu-160s have it. The common russian
nickname for Tu-160 is "Lebed" (a swan).
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Vladimir Malukh Novosibirsk, Russia
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Ken Duffey
The names we are talking about are similar to the US practice of naming
B-2's after US cities - I forget the exact names - but such things as
'Spirit of Boston' etc - a name assigned to each individual a/c.
The Russian AF has now started to do the same.
They are naming their Tu-95 'Bear' bombers after Russian cities -
examples are 'Ryazan', 'Engels' etc.
The Tu-160 (NATO Reporting name 'Blackjack') has been given names of
Russian heroes.
I am collecting a list - but I can't find it just now !!!
From memory, they have used :-
Illya Mouromets
Ivan Yarigin
Mikhail Gromov
Vasilii Reshetnikov
And now - thanks to Oleg - we have another called Ignatievich Molodchii
I will try and type up a definitive list of the names - and who they
are.
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Ken Duffey wrote:
>
>
> And now - thanks to Oleg - we have another called Ignatievich Molodchii
ken, liitle correction, it's named Aleksandr (its first name)
Molodchii (surname).
Ignatievich - is middle name, reference to name of father (Ignat).
Andrey....@get-lost-spammer.uni-ulm.de
> Ken Duffey wrote:
>>
>>
>> And now - thanks to Oleg - we have another called Ignatievich Molodchii
> ken, liitle correction, it's named Aleksandr (its first name)
> Molodchii (surname).
> Ignatievich - is middle name, reference to name of father (Ignat).
Ti znajesh, a ono zvuchalo tozhe neploho:
Tu-160 Ignatievich. :) Ya b ostavil.
Ej, Ignatyich, dolbani razok po belomu domiku a to uzh ochen' on belij. :)
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> Vladimir Malukh Novosibirsk, Russia
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Ken Duffey
> Ken Duffey wrote:
> >
> >
> > And now - thanks to Oleg - we have another called Ignatievich Molodchii
>
> ken, liitle correction, it's named Aleksandr (its first name)
> Molodchii (surname).
>
> Ignatievich - is middle name, reference to name of father (Ignat).
>
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> Vladimir Malukh Novosibirsk, Russia
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Thanks Vladimir !!
I must learn to read the original post before replying !!!!
Ken Duffey
> The names we are talking about are similar to the US practice of naming
> B-2's after US cities - I forget the exact names - but such things as
> 'Spirit of Boston' etc - a name assigned to each individual a/c.
>
> The Russian AF has now started to do the same.
>
> They are naming their Tu-95 'Bear' bombers after Russian cities -
> examples are 'Ryazan', 'Engels' etc.
>
> The Tu-160 (NATO Reporting name 'Blackjack') has been given names of
> Russian heroes.
>
> I am collecting a list - but I can't find it just now !!!
>
> From memory, they have used :-
>
> Illya Mouromets
> Ivan Yarigin
> Mikhail Gromov
> Vasilii Reshetnikov
>
> And now - thanks to Oleg - we have another called Ignatievich Molodchii
>
> I will try and type up a definitive list of the names - and who they
> are.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast
> Flankers - http://www.flankers.co.uk/
> S-37 Model - http://www.samolet.co.uk/s37model.html
> Genuine E-mailers - remove the x after uk
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I knew I had a list !!! Here goes ......
A/c number Name
01 Mikhail Gromov
02 Vassily Reshetnikov
04 Ivan Yarigin
06 Illya Mouromets
Aleksandr Molodchiy
Apparently 'Illya Mouromets' was painted on a/c numbers 05 AND 06 !!
Vassily Reshetnikov was a former Long-range Aviation Commander-in-Chief
Ivan Yarygin was a famous Rusian wrestler of the early 20th century.
Mikhail Gromov is a legenday Soviet test pilot after whom the Gromov Flight
Test Centre is also named.
Aleksandr Molodchy is a famous veteran of Long-range aviation who flew 311
sorties during the GPW.
If anyone can add more - or fill in any blanks, let us all know !
As for Tu-95 names - I have seen pics of Ryazan and Saratov and there are
others named after Blagoveshchensk & Kaluga with Moscow, Tambov & Mozdok
waiting their turn.
Thanks to Air Fleet number 13 for the information.
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terebov
DID contain the full name -- Alexandr Ignatievich Molodchii.
Please see, I don't want to be famous in the way that a
French encyclopedia became when it stated that Czar
Ivan the Terrible was for his cruelty known as Vasilievich.
Best regards,
Oleg Vladimirovich
>> And now - thanks to Oleg - we have another called Ignatievich Molodchii