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A-3 Skywarrior. Huh?

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Brett Jaffee

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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On the way home from work this evening in the San Fernando Valley (CA.), I saw
a Douglas A-3 Skywarrior fly by at about 200 feet, obviously heading for the
pattern at Van Nuys airport. Does the navy actually still use this thing?
Are any privately owned?

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MarcReid

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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At least two are in private hands. Both were at an airshow at Hanscom AFB
in
Massachusetts in 1995. I believe the company is based in VA. Both A-3s
were
still in faded USN markings, but one had some Norwegian writing and a
picture of
a whale on the nose. I was told the plane was being used for
environmental
research and whale-tracking in the N. Atlantic.

Martin Sagara

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Apr 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/23/97
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MarcReid (marc...@aol.com) wrote:
: At least two are in private hands.

Bob Stanley, founder of Stanley Aviation in Aurora (Denver)
Colorado, used an A-3 as a corporate aircraft. The plane
went down in the Atlantic on a trip to Europe (early '70s?)
and no trace of it, the passengers, or Mr. Stanley were
ever found. I can't really vouch for the details of this
story because I heard it third hand. Any more information
would be appreciated.

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seats for the Convair B-58 Hustler. They now build
aircraft ground support equipment.

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Bunelou

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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Hughes Aircraft has about 5 flyable A-3 that fly out of Van Nuys. There
are 2 or 3 other A-3s at Mojave Airport that use to fly for Thunderbird
Aviation.

A-3s Forever !

L. Franco

Brian Elliott

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Apr 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/24/97
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On Wed, 23 Apr 1997 07:06:47 GMT, jaf...@earthlink.net (Brett Jaffee) wrote: >>>On the way home from work this evening in the San Fernando Valley (CA.), I saw >>>a Douglas A-3 Skywarrior fly by at about 200 feet, obviously heading for the >>>pattern at Van Nuys airport. Does the navy actually still use this thing? >>>Are any privately owned? No, they are not privately owned and the Navy doesn't operate them anymore. However, a number have been bailed to hughes who fly them on assorted radar trials and a bunch of them are based at Van Nuys. Pity they never fly when I'm there (which is once every other blue moon). However, on my biennial trip to Tucson at the weekend I saw N161TB which used to be operated by Thunderbird Aviation at Deer Valley, Phoenix. I'd quite like to know more about who operates this one... brgds brian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The name of the composition is Hare Pie. No. It's Neon Meate Dream of an Octafish. http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~samolet/index.html -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dennis Buley

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Apr 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/25/97
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> Brian:

According to the FAA data base which can be reached at:

http://www.landings.com

N161TB is a Douglas ERA-3B, BuNo 146446 and is still owned by the Navy,
but is operated by Thunderbird Aviation of Phoenix, AZ. The aircraft has
an "experimental" certificate and is used for R&D.

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Dennis Buley

J.McEachen

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Apr 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/26/97
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Brett Jaffee wrote:
>
> On the way home from work this evening in the San Fernando Valley (CA.), I saw
> a Douglas A-3 Skywarrior fly by at about 200 feet, obviously heading for the
> pattern at Van Nuys airport. Does the navy actually still use this thing?
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Thunderbird Aviation out there in arizona or Van Nuys had at least two
A-3's, one was TA-3B 144856. It was modified with a tail boom and a
"saucer" radome, two a/c were used for stealth testing in-flight with a
B-2. Last report was that Thunderbird closed up, but their a/c (also an
F-8 if I remember correctly) may still be around those territories.
These are different from the ones seen at Hanscom, and a photo in
"Aviation Week" of the stealth testing showed clean a/c with fresh NAVY
markings, Buno and all. Actually, I prefer to call the TA-3B an A3D-2T,
and 144856 was the a/c I made my first bomb run in (on Charlotte RBS)
when it was practically new in VAH-3. It is still a pretty sleek
looking a/c.

Bill Waskowitz

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Apr 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/26/97
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> > Brian:
>
> According to the FAA data base which can be reached at:
>
> http://www.landings.com
>
> N161TB is a Douglas ERA-3B, BuNo 146446 and is still owned by the Navy,
> but is operated by Thunderbird Aviation of Phoenix, AZ. The aircraft has
> an "experimental" certificate and is used for R&D.
>
> Remove * from reply to address
>
> Dennis Buley

Hi,

Hughes Aircraft has their flight test group located at Van Nuys airport
unless they have moved in the past few months. Hughes had bailed to them
an A3 that had an AWG-9 radar planted in the nose with a F-111B or F-14
radaome and all. This might be the airplane that was spotted over the
San Fernando valley. I used to see this airplane frequently at Point
Mugu. I never recorded to Buo Number.

Bill Waskowitz bwask...@pacificnet.net

Brian Elliott

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Apr 27, 1997, 3:00:00 AM4/27/97
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On Fri, 25 Apr 1997 10:06:58 -0400, Dennis Buley <dbu...@jnpcs.com> wrote: >>>According to the FAA data base which can be reached at: >>>http://www.landings.com >>>N161TB is a Douglas ERA-3B, BuNo 146446 and is still owned by the Navy, >>>but is operated by Thunderbird Aviation of Phoenix, AZ. The aircraft has >>>an "experimental" certificate and is used for R&D. >>>Remove * from reply to address >>>Dennis Buley Thanks for that but I fear that information is out of date as Thunderbird have gone into liquidation and most of their aircraft have been dispersed. The two TA-7s have gone to DM and the rest of the A-3s to Mojave leaving just the two F-8s, the C123 and two T-33s at Deer Valley. brgds Brian ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The name of the composition is Hare Pie. No. It's Neon Meate Dream of an Octafish. http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~samolet/index.html -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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