"Nude Warriors" Military Tradition?
J. Nelson
Air National Guard Unit....Does anyone know if "Nude Warriors" is really a
military tradition or not? Know of any resources that may have the answer?
Justine
Krztalizer
We used to try and convince people in the process of recieving their wings that
it was tradition to disrobe during their first flight after getting their
wings. No names here, but a young woman in VRC-30 fell for it.
Gordon
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USN SAR Aircrew
"Senso? Got anything on radar?"
"Just my forehead, sir."
George M. Gumbert III
>>
>>Regarding the recent incident of "Nude Warriors" flying the KC-135 at the
>>Air National Guard Unit....Does anyone know if "Nude Warriors" is really a
>>military tradition or not? Know of any resources that may have the answer?
>
>We used to try and convince people in the process of recieving their wings that
>it was tradition to disrobe during their first flight after getting their
>wings. No names here, but a young woman in VRC-30 fell for it.
Although not strictly military stations, many bases on Antarctica have
developed nude traditions as well as casual and nonsensational
attitudes towards nudity. Visiting air force military personal on
resupply flights often participate.
Lake Vanda Scientific Station is located near the ice-free McMurdo
Sound. Membership in the "Royal Vanda Swimming Club" requires
skinny-dipping in the still frigid lake waters.
The South Pole Station has the "300 Club" inwhich members [briefly] go
in the buff in the outside 100 below temperatures, run literally
around the South Pole and back inside [don't know if that's Celcius or
Fahrenheit but at such low temperatures this seems moot point!]
New Zealand's Scott Base claims the coldest skinny-dip record when in
1986 a chainsaw was used to cut a hole in the meter-thick ice for 44
New Zealanders, Canadians and Americans to take a dip.
On a less sensational note, the Antartic stations generally only had
men until the 1970s. Due to the limited space to build seperate
female facilities, things have developed inwhich males and females
showering and dressing in the nude together is taken for granted.
I'd be curious how the military air forces of European nations handle
co-ed nudity considering that clothing optional beaches, parks,
resorts, and other casual nude situations are such an extremely common
part of their societies compared to North America.
George
Maury Markowitz
> Regarding the recent incident of "Nude Warriors" flying the KC-135 at the
> Air National Guard Unit....Does anyone know if "Nude Warriors" is really a
> military tradition or not? Know of any resources that may have the answer?
Well I can't say for them, but it's definitely a skydiving tradition. It's
kinda like virginity, you can only do it the first time once, and when it's
over you've got scratches in weird places, your groin hurts, and you're
wondering what the big deal was.
:-)
Maury
C.D. Damron
pilots have continued the tradition.
C.D. Damron
Will Chabun
spectacular arrival at the annual CFB Moose Jaw airshow, one CF Sea King
arrived, hovered over the infield and deposited, via winch, a crewman
wearing boots, helmet and nothing else.
wjc
Maury Markowitz <maury@remove_this.istar.ca> wrote in article
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John W. Alger
>We used to try and convince people in the process of recieving their wings that
>it was tradition to disrobe during their first flight after getting their
>wings. No names here, but a young woman in VRC-30 fell for it.
Obviously, "pre-Tailhook"!!! No one would dare to even try that
nowdays!!
John
Tex Bennett
wrote:
>Back in the late 1970s, when there was a prize offered for the most
>spectacular arrival at the annual CFB Moose Jaw airshow, one CF Sea King
>arrived, hovered over the infield and deposited, via winch, a crewman
>wearing boots, helmet and nothing else.
Whilst we are talking about playing silly buggers in airplanes, there
was a case of a RAF Phantom Sqn who whilst on detatchment in Europe,
flew a jet to the UK to fetch the Haggis for the Burns Night Supper.
They then flew it back at Mach 2 , complete with Nav "pipeing it in"
with a set of bagpipes!
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José Herculano
that
>>it was tradition to disrobe during their first flight after getting their
>>wings. No names here, but a young woman in VRC-30 fell for it.
Imagine that in a T-45. Girl has inflight emergency, ejects... downstairs a
biker convention, all of a sudden nude girl parachutes on top... applause.
José Herculano
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BlackBeard
Markowitz) wrote:
>
> Well I can't say for them, but it's definitely a skydiving tradition. It's
>kinda like virginity, you can only do it the first time once, and when it's
>over you've got scratches in weird places, your groin hurts, and you're
>wondering what the big deal was.
>
> :-)
>
>Maury
One of the test jumpers here told this one.
He was on a tour with one of the SEAL teams and to celebrate his 500th
jump he got to choose the parameters. They were out at the Federal
training center in Southern Arizona on a nice summers morning, so he
proclaimed they would all jump naked. He, acting as jumpmaster got them
in the door and soon they were all freefalling to the Az desert, except
for him. He sent them out a bit early (5 or 6 miles). After they had
hiked back to the compound they greeted him by returning the favor... Zip
tying him to the cyclone fence, nekkid as a jaybird.
I guess he said they came out after an hour or two and released
him... Long enough to turn him around and grill the other side. He says
he had an interesting pattern on his burn.
BlackBeard
Submarines once, Submarines twice...
Trying to reason with hurricane season, in the Mojave desert.
José Herculano
>him... Long enough to turn him around and grill the other side. He says
>he had an interesting pattern on his burn.
ROTFLMOL!
Hugh Dickson
never went out nekkid but they were otherwise totally crazy. The Aussie SAS
blokes were the most weird.
Regards, Hugh, LM/129th SOG, CANG, HANGB
BlackBeard wrote:
> In article <EyAzr...@T-FCN.Net>, maury@remove_this.istar.ca (Maury
> Markowitz) wrote:
>
> >
> > Well I can't say for them, but it's definitely a skydiving tradition. It's
> >kinda like virginity, you can only do it the first time once, and when it's
> >over you've got scratches in weird places, your groin hurts, and you're
> >wondering what the big deal was.
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >Maury
>
> One of the test jumpers here told this one.
>
> He was on a tour with one of the SEAL teams and to celebrate his 500th
> jump he got to choose the parameters. They were out at the Federal
> training center in Southern Arizona on a nice summers morning, so he
> proclaimed they would all jump naked. He, acting as jumpmaster got them
> in the door and soon they were all freefalling to the Az desert, except
> for him. He sent them out a bit early (5 or 6 miles). After they had
> hiked back to the compound they greeted him by returning the favor... Zip
> tying him to the cyclone fence, nekkid as a jaybird.
> I guess he said they came out after an hour or two and released
> him... Long enough to turn him around and grill the other side. He says
> he had an interesting pattern on his burn.
>
Bill
This is nothing new. Alexander the Great, when he set out to conquer the world,
would frequently wade ashore completely nude, throw his spear at the nearest land
and claim the whole area for himself and Macedonia. The Macedonians fought with
really long pikes and sometimes went nude to distract the enemy line. The sight of
nude Macedonians running at you with pikes quite a bit longer than yours usually
scattered the enemy line.
Bill
Matthew Hamer
be familiar with the photo of Lt. Kevin Vaillant, in the back seat of CF104
dual, mooning his wingman.
The photo was taken in the early 1980s during operation Starleap, during which
a batch of the 417 Squadron F104s were deployed to Europe. The photo was
taken at FL "Nosebleed", somewhere over the North Atlantic, and is captioned
"My what an unusual helmet" or words to that effect.
Regards, Matt
In article <35E4BA...@lex.infi.net>,
Richard B Wright
Please supply your reference material on these tactics. I have read that
this was very isolated by the time of Alex and that only the Hoplites
(older generation) did the nude thing...albeit infrequently. The Pike
formations were not in the nude mode and were made-up of the newer
generation of soldiers.
Would appreciate your notes so I can represent Alex's troops as they were.
I am painting a 15mm army.
Richard Wright
STL
Bill <ali...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in article
<35E9AA7B...@ix.netcom.com>...
Jeff Noakes
>
> Anyone in RAM who has read David Bashow's excellent book about the CF104 will
> be familiar with the photo of Lt. Kevin Vaillant, in the back seat of CF104
> dual, mooning his wingman.
>
> The photo was taken in the early 1980s during operation Starleap, during which
> a batch of the 417 Squadron F104s were deployed to Europe. The photo was
> taken at FL "Nosebleed", somewhere over the North Atlantic, and is captioned
> "My what an unusual helmet" or words to that effect.
>
> Regards, Matt
"My, what an unusual helmet... 104 642, piloted by Dan Bouchard closes
up for John Laidler's camera during Operation Starleap. The bum in the
back is Kevin Vaillant."
Bashow's book also has Laidler's explanation of the shot:
"We were happy to doff our immersion suits for this leg after having
worn them since Goose. Before the flight, Kevin Vaillant had asked me
if he could borrow my small Nikon AF to take some pictures on the last
leg, but I said no, if he wanted any taken to give a shout, and I would
oblige him. I thought no more of it until somewhere over the North Sea
I felt this 'presence' beside me, looked left, and was presented with
this humungous moon from the back seat of Dan Bouchard's airplane (I
knew hed had the front seat on that hop). I was laughing so hard, I
could hardly say 'close it up' to take the shots. My autopilot made it
easy for me, however.
Kevin later said it took him five minutes to get everything down, while
retaining only his boots, helmet, and oxygen mask."
The picture is on p. 128; the description on p.126. I agree with you
about this book; the text and the pictures are excellent.
Hope this helps.
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