Alpha Mike Foxtrot
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I just heard a pilot use the phrase "Alpha Mike Foxtrot" (on Wings). What
does that phrase mean? Thanks.
ttfn & 73,
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Stephen St.Clair
>Howdy:
> I just heard a pilot use the phrase "Alpha Mike Foxtrot" (on Wings). What
>does that phrase mean? Thanks.
>ttfn & 73,
Adios Motherfucker
Steve
David P Benjamin
: Howdy:
: I just heard a pilot use the phrase "Alpha Mike Foxtrot" (on Wings).
: What does that phrase mean? Thanks.
It's an acronym using the military phonetic alphabet, like so:
A-- Spanish good-bye
M-- maternal parent
F-- active coitus
Hope this helps. You can also hear the phrase on the computer games
F-16 Fighting Falcon, and F-18 Hornet by Spectrum Holobyte when
your wingmen get a kill.
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David Benjamin--Auburn University GTA
Political Science/International Relations
"War is politics by other means"--Clausewitz
GeoBlack
Code" for it?
Buzzard 01
Daniel C. Wroe, VAX Operations
>does that phrase mean? Thanks.
Adios Mother F__ker
Wiskey Charlie = Who Cares
Charlie Foxtrot = Clucter F__k
There are more, but I draw a blank on the right now.
-"Skid" Wroe
Bill Huber
>Adios Mother F__ker
>-"Skid" Wroe
Fox 1 - Semi-Active Radar Shot.
Fox 2 - IR Shot.
Fox 3 - Active Radar Shot. (Phoenix, AIM 120?)
FOX 4 - F-15 just got shot in the face by a B-52 Gunner.
(Sadly Extinct)
Bill Huber
Brian varine
On 5 Apr 1995 sys...@atscv1.atsc.allied.com wrote:
> >I just heard a pilot use the phrase "Alpha Mike Foxtrot" (on Wings). What
> >does that phrase mean? Thanks.
>
> Adios Mother F__ker
>
> Wiskey Charlie = Who Cares
> Charlie Foxtrot = Clucter F__k
>
> There are more, but I draw a blank on the right now.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot= What The F***
Brian varine
On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, Paul L. Suh wrote:
> In article <bebrrwh.35...@business.utah.edu>,
> beb...@business.utah.edu (Bill Huber) wrote:
>
> I believe that more correctly it's:
>
> >Fox 1 - Semi-Active Radar Shot.
>
> Any radar-guided shot, incl. Phoenix & AMRAAM.
>
> >Fox 2 - IR Shot.
> >Fox 3 - Active Radar Shot. (Phoenix, AIM 120?)
>
> Guns shot. (Seems kind of rare. If you're that close, you probably
> have many more things to worry about than tell friendlies that you're
> taking a guns shot.)
Fox 3 is has always been a Phoenix as long as I can remember, the
previous post was correct.
Paul L. Suh
I believe that more correctly it's:
>Fox 1 - Semi-Active Radar Shot.
Any radar-guided shot, incl. Phoenix & AMRAAM.
>Fox 2 - IR Shot.
>Fox 3 - Active Radar Shot. (Phoenix, AIM 120?)
Guns shot. (Seems kind of rare. If you're that close, you probably
have many more things to worry about than tell friendlies that you're
taking a guns shot.)
>FOX 4 - F-15 just got shot in the face by a B-52 Gunner.
> (Sadly Extinct)
Not a tail gunner, but a mid-air collision. This can ruin your whole
day! ;-)
--Paul
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Jennings Heilig
from a B-52H! In fact, you can get more of a face full than from a G!
Cheers,
Jennings Heilig
Henry Big Hank Liang
> >Fox 3 - Active Radar Shot. (Phoenix, AIM 120?)
> Guns shot. (Seems kind of rare. If you're that close, you probably
> have many more things to worry about than tell friendlies that you're
> taking a guns shot.)
"Fox-3" has been standard for a Phoenix shot for a long, long time. With
the US inventory:
Fox-1 = AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-120 AMRAAM
Fox-2 = AIM-9 Sidewinder
Fox-2 Mike = AIM-9M All-Aspect Sidewinder (this from the computer game
Falcon 3.0, so dunno exact authenticity)
Fox-3 = AIM-54 Phoenix
Guns = Guns :)
... I *think*.
Flamers can Kilo Mike Alpha. ;)
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>Paul L. Suh (pl...@econ.sas.upenn.edu) wrote:
>
>> >Fox 3 - Active Radar Shot. (Phoenix, AIM 120?)
>
>> Guns shot. (Seems kind of rare. If you're that close, you probably
>> have many more things to worry about than tell friendlies that you're
>> taking a guns shot.)
>
>"Fox-3" has been standard for a Phoenix shot for a long, long time. With
>the US inventory:
>
> Fox-1 = AIM-7 Sparrow, AIM-120 AMRAAM
> Fox-2 = AIM-9 Sidewinder
> Fox-2 Mike = AIM-9M All-Aspect Sidewinder (this from the computer game
> Falcon 3.0, so dunno exact authenticity)
> Fox-3 = AIM-54 Phoenix
> Guns = Guns :)
>
>... I *think*.
>
>Flamers can Kilo Mike Alpha. ;)
>
Don't forget Fox-4. Fox-4 = Ramming.
Not pretty, but sometimes you just gotta make sure the target is destroyed...
RM
Ken Koller
Some may laugh, but that is standard procedure for ADF. If all else
fails, ram 'em.
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Bill Huber
>From: Jennings Heilig <jhe...@gate.net>
>Subject: Re: Alpha Mike Foxtrot
>Date: Thu, 6 Apr 1995 13:18:51 -0400
>Cheers,
>Jennings Heilig
Sadly, In late 1991, SAC removed the gunners from the B-52 crews and
deactivated the gun. Its still on board for weight and balance concerns
but its now about as useful as a broom stick. It seems they decided
that a B-52 would never operate within range of hostile fighters without
its own escort.
Bill Huber
Brian varine
On Thu, 6 Apr 1995, Rick Jansky wrote:
> : > >I just heard a pilot use the phrase "Alpha Mike Foxtrot" (on Wings). What
> : > >does that phrase mean? Thanks.
> : >
> : > Adios Mother F__ker
> : >
> : > Wiskey Charlie = Who Cares
> : > Charlie Foxtrot = Clucter F__k
> : >
> : > There are more, but I draw a blank on the right now.
>
> : Whiskey Tango Foxtrot= What The F***
>
> Foxtrot Tango Whiskey == F--- The World
and of course FTN. Self explanitory
Jacob M Mcguire
Foxtrot by Bill Hu...@business.utah
I thought that Fox 4 was the semi-humorous term for a mid-air.
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Prowler633
>deactivated the gun. Its still on board for weight and balance concerns
>but its now about as useful as a broom stick. It seems they decided
>that a B-52 would never operate within range of hostile fighters without
>its own escort.
>
>Bill Huber
Gunner is gone, and now so is the gun. I talked with a B-52H crew out of
Barksdale AFB; they told me the gun is being removed so it may be put to
better use than ballast.
Regards,
Bart
Prowl...@aol.com
Matthew Saroff
On Fri, 7 Apr 1995, Jacob M Mcguire wrote:
> Excerpts from netnews.rec.aviation.military: 5-Apr-95 Re: Alpha Mike
> Foxtrot by Bill Hu...@business.utah
> > FOX 4 - F-15 just got shot in the face by a B-52 Gunner.
>
I recall reading that during Viet Nam, BUFF tail gunners actually
bagged some MiGs. Can anyone out there confirm this?
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Ed De Reyes
(Bill Huber) writes:
>
>In article <5APR1995...@atscv1.atsc.allied.com>
sys...@atscv1.atsc.allied.com (Daniel C. Wroe, VAX Operations) writes:
>
>>>I just heard a pilot use the phrase "Alpha Mike Foxtrot" (on Wings).
What
>>>does that phrase mean? Thanks.
>
>>Adios Mother F__ker
>
>>Wiskey Charlie = Who Cares
>>Charlie Foxtrot = Clucter F__k
>
>>There are more, but I draw a blank on the right now.
>
>>-"Skid" Wroe
>
>Fox 1 - Semi-Active Radar Shot.
>Fox 2 - IR Shot.
>Fox 3 - Active Radar Shot. (Phoenix, AIM 120?)
>FOX 4 - F-15 just got shot in the face by a B-52 Gunner.
> (Sadly Extinct)
>
>Bill Huber
>
Actually, Fox 4 was the aircraft itself (when you were out of things to
drop, shoot, fire, etc, your last was a "Fox-4"....ram them with your
aircraft!) It was meant as a joke, actually, there really wasn't a
Fox-4.
More acronyms:
BUFF: "Big Ugly Fat Fucker" (a B-52)
Tango Uniform (TU): "Tits Up" as in "My IFF is TITS UP"
Sierra Hotel (SH): "Shit Hot" as in "He's SHIT HOT"
HTMD: "Human Tactical Munitions Dispenser", a rather flatulent person
(My old squadron's favorite, for which you were awarded
a Burger King Crown for the title of most olefactory
offensive HTMD)
GIB: "Guy in Back", as in F-4 WSO's, F-15E WSO's, etc.
FUF: "Fucker Up Front", as in the stick actuator in the F-4 or F-15E
There's a ton of these! I could write a book on all the acronyms!
Guido the GIB
BUFFIRN
in the B-52(IAW 55-79). I can't vouch for any other meaning.
Jim Williams
Crusty old BUFF guy
"I speak for no one!"
Ian M. Hall-Beyer
>Howdy:
> I just heard a pilot use the phrase "Alpha Mike Foxtrot" (on Wings). What
>does that phrase mean? Thanks.
It's also used in "Flight of The Intruder". I am told it means "Adios
My Friend" or something to that effect...
-Ian
Andrew Muir
Matthew Saroff <msa...@moose.erie.net> says:
>>
> I recall reading that during Viet Nam, BUFF tail gunners actually
>bagged some MiGs. Can anyone out there confirm this?
Yes, a couple of migs were knocked down by B-52s, but I don't have any
specifics.
Comanche
Andy Muir
Tsaen Y Wang
: Nope! There really was a Fox-4 call and it was associated with the guns
Throw my hat into this, I always thought Fox-4 means when a pilot
chases a bogey into mother earth in a close quarter dogfight.
Whoever can pull off stunt like this gets my vote for daredevil
of the year. Come to think of it, this neat trick means you can
save a sidewider as a bonus. ;-)
Cheer.
Mutual Improvement
> I recall reading that during Viet Nam, BUFF tail gunners actually
>bagged some MiGs. Can anyone out there confirm this?
i have heard this too as i recall a picture in robert dorr's book
"air war hanoi", with one of the said gunners being presented with a medal.
t.
stub...@cris.com
> I recall reading that during Viet Nam, BUFF tail gunners actually
>bagged some MiGs. Can anyone out there confirm this?
Yes. The B-52 on static display at the USAF Academy had a kill or two.
- Stuart Butts
JON K. TINSLEY
>In article <3m7s5r$g...@bigfoot.ecl.wustl.edu> ty...@cec.wustl.edu (Tsaen Y Wang) writes:
>>Throw my hat into this, I always thought Fox-4 means when a pilot
>>chases a bogey into mother earth in a close quarter dogfight.
>>Whoever can pull off stunt like this gets my vote for daredevil
>>of the year. Come to think of it, this neat trick means you can
>>save a sidewider as a bonus. ;-)
>>Cheer.
>Actually, didn't that happen several times during the Gulf War? I seem to
>remember tales of at least one F-111 (and/or possibly an EF-111) which saw
>a pursuing MiG-29 fireball in the rearview mirror while the allied
>plane was trying to outmaneuver it at low level. I seem to think an F-15C had
>a similar experience, too (it might have been Caesar Rodriguez flying the
>Eagle?).
>--Chris Douglas
Fox-4 = Guns!
JT
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Robert Huber
>From: t...@coventry.ac.uk (Mutual Improvement)
>Subject: Re: Alpha Mike Foxtrot
>[deleted]
>
>> I recall reading that during Viet Nam, BUFF tail gunners actually
>>bagged some MiGs. Can anyone out there confirm this?
>i have heard this too as i recall a picture in robert dorr's book
>"air war hanoi", with one of the said gunners being presented with a medal.
>t.
Two B-52Ds are officially credited with Mig Kills. One is on static
display at the Air Force Academy and the other is at Fairchild AFB
near Spokane, Washington. There may have been several uncomfirmed
others. They may have also shot an F-4 or two that got too close to
a tense gunner (no IFF).
Bill Huber
Bill Huber
>Nope! There really was a Fox-4 call and it was associated with the guns
>in the B-52(IAW 55-79). I can't vouch for any other meaning.
>Jim Williams
>Crusty old BUFF guy
>"I speak for no one!"
But typical for any fighter jock not to know it. Right Jim?
Bill Huber
Daniel C. Wroe, VAX Operations
>> : > Adios Mother F__ker
>> : > Wiskey Charlie = Who Cares
>> : > Charlie Foxtrot = Clucter F__k
>> Foxtrot Tango Whiskey == F--- The World
>and of course FTN. Self explanitory
A friend mentioned Sierra Tango Papa, or more likely simply STP...
Screw The Pooch.
I don't know if it was ever used on the air.
-"Skid" Wroe
"When all else fails, fly Martin-Bakker"
Chris Douglas
Johnny Barfield
PLS> Not a tail gunner, but a mid-air collision. This can ruin your
PLS>whole day! ;-)
PLS>--Paul
Fox 4 is the call made to indicate firing of guns. I know... I was the
one shooting the F-15 in the face, and sit as an example of the
sadly-extinct B-52 tailgunner.
Johnny
Ian M. Hall-Beyer
>> Adios Mother F__ker
>>
>> Wiskey Charlie = Who Cares
>> Charlie Foxtrot = Clucter F__k
>>
>> There are more, but I draw a blank on the right now.
>Whiskey Tango Foxtrot= What The F***
Tango Uniform... Tits Up
Ian M. Hall-Beyer
>Extinct? When did the BUFFs go away? You can still get it in the face
>from a B-52H! In fact, you can get more of a face full than from a G!
The BUFFs are still here, the tailgunners are no longer...
-Ian
Daniel C. Wroe, VAX Operations
>Sadly, In late 1991, SAC removed the gunners from the B-52 crews and
>deactivated the gun. Its still on board for weight and balance concerns
>but its now about as useful as a broom stick. It seems they decided
>that a B-52 would never operate within range of hostile fighters without
>its own escort.
Why does this reasoning sound tragicly familiar. Take the guns off, they'll
never need them in the new age of combat?
Put the f__king accountants in a BUFF and fly them into harms way and -then-
ask them if it should carry a gunner!
-"Skid" Wroe
Ed Rasimus
>>>Throw my hat into this, I always thought Fox-4 means when a pilot
>>>chases a bogey into mother earth in a close quarter dogfight.
>>>Whoever can pull off stunt like this gets my vote for daredevil
>>>of the year. Come to think of it, this neat trick means you can
>>>save a sidewider as a bonus. ;-)
>
>
>
>
>What? A sig? No need! These are my views, and only my views. But you
>should believe them too! UPT: VANCE 96-07! "You can call me Jon"
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was during the time period when most of the USAF fighters were Phantoms
(or fox fours). The whole group was, Fox One for radar missile, Fox Two
for heater, Fox three for guns and four for ramming.
And I wouldn't be too proud yet of "UPT: Vance 96-07" you've got quite
a ways to go.
Ed, AKA Thunder,
UPT Williams 66-A
Ed Rasimus
>
>Two B-52Ds are officially credited with Mig Kills. One is on static
>display at the Air Force Academy and the other is at Fairchild AFB
>near Spokane, Washington. There may have been several uncomfirmed
>others. They may have also shot an F-4 or two that got too close to
>a tense gunner (no IFF).
>
LineBacker II, the "twelve days of Christmas" 1972.
Unfortunately that was the only time the BUFFS ever got into
Pack 6. It is extremely unlikely that any F-4s were threatened,
since the buffs only flew at night and at such god-awful high
altitudes that no F-4 would ever have been anywhere near within
range.
As for my credentials to comment on this area--I've got more
than 150 North Viet Nam missions to my credit, including 100
in the F-105 in '66 and the remainder in the F-4E during
Linebacker I and II--I was there for eleven of the twelve days
of the LB II campaign.
Bill Huber
>-"Skid" Wroe
YES!
Bill Huber
BUFFIRN
that!
JON K. TINSLEY
course was during the time period when most of the USAF fighters were
>And I wouldn't be too proud yet of "UPT: Vance 96-07" you've got quite
>a ways to go.
> Ed, AKA Thunder,
> UPT Williams 66-A
Yes, but that was before the introduction of AMRAAM, which is now Fox-3.
Pushing guns to a "Fox-4" This is from both Eagle/Viper drivers.
Come on now, I'm just happy that I am going to get the chance to go to UPT,
I know I have a long way to go, once I get there. Slots are few and far
between now-a-days. Its just nice to have the orders, and a report date!
The FIGMO factor is high.
JT
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Ross McInnes
sometimes don't know American slang. I know what Charlie Foxtrot stands for
but I don't know what Cluster F__k refers to. Can anyone enlighten me
(gently please) :-)
Ross
William O'Neill
Ross McInnes (r.mc...@bbcnc.org.uk) wrote:
: I've been following this thread with interest. However, as a Brit, I
: but I don't know what Cluster F__k refers to. Can anyone enlighten me
: (gently please) :-)
It usually means everything is going wrong at once.
deacon bill
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M-- maternal parent
F-- active coitus >> coitus interuptus in the best case