poles off side of aircraft carrier?
Ken Rose
In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
-- Ken
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Bob Keeter
ke...@yarmouth.engr.sgi.com (Ken Rose) wrote:
>In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
>are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
>level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
>are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
>see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
>
AFAIK, these are fold-down HF radio antennas. Fold down for
flight ops, fold up for long range radio communications.
Regards
bk
Bryan Nylander
Ken Rose wrote:
>
> In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
> are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
> level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
> are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
> see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
>
>
> --
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Ken Rose (ke...@engr.sgi.com)
> The Usual Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed above are mine alone,
they are (UHF, HF).
Bryan
Brian Varine
On 28 Dec 1996, Bob Keeter wrote:
> ke...@yarmouth.engr.sgi.com (Ken Rose) wrote:
> >In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
> >are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
> >level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
> >are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
> >see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
>
> AFAIK, these are fold-down HF radio antennas. Fold down for
> flight ops, fold up for long range radio communications.
Which should be eliminated soon when each CV enters the yards and
recieves the new Harris HFRG (HF Radio Group) system. It plugs a bunch of
HF antenna's into one or two and manages the radio's on board. We had it
on Saipan and it worked great.
Scott T. Hards
Ken Rose wrote:
>
> In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
> are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
> level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
> are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
> see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
Those are antennas for various purposes (I'll let the more enlightened
in the group come up with all the different functions). They fold to
the vertical when the ship is in port, as they would obviously hinder
docking.
BlackBeard
In article <5a48pg$d...@murrow.corp.sgi.com>, ke...@yarmouth.engr.sgi.com
(Ken Rose) wrote:
> In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
> are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
> level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
> are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
> see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
>
hehehe... curb feelers.. ;)
BlackBeard
-. .- -..- --.-
De Profundis
Submarines once, Submarines twice...
W.E. Nichols
th...@reader.makes.me.doThis (BlackBeard) wrote:
+In article <5a48pg$d...@murrow.corp.sgi.com>, ke...@yarmouth.engr.sgi.com
+(Ken Rose) wrote:
+
+> In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
+> are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
+> level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
+> are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
+> see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
+hehehe... curb feelers.. ;)
Maybe. But we ain't got no furry dice hanging from the fish eyes.
Nick
W.E. Nichols "This is an era when nonsense has become acceptable
w...@infi.net and sanity is controversial." Thomas Sowell
BlackBeard
In article <32c7925...@news.norfolk.infi.net>, w...@infi.net wrote:
> th...@reader.makes.me.doThis (BlackBeard) wrote:
>
>
> +hehehe... curb feelers.. ;)
>
> Maybe. But we ain't got no furry dice hanging from the fish eyes.
Hey Nick. Where you at Fentris or Oceana in '72? My drinking buddy, a
former metalsmith Chief and whaler, was in a crash at Oceana in that
time. He was backseat in a TA-4 rolling for takeoff when an F-4 crossed
in front of them on the runway. He said it took the crash crew several
hours to cut him out of the AC. Just one of his 3 crashes... (and he
kept going back up...sheesh ;)
David K. Bryant
th...@reader.makes.me.doThis (BlackBeard) writes:
> Hey Nick. Where you at Fentris or Oceana in '72? My drinking buddy, a
>former metalsmith Chief and whaler, was in a crash at Oceana in that
>time. He was backseat in a TA-4 rolling for takeoff when an F-4 crossed
>in front of them on the runway. He said it took the crash crew several
>hours to cut him out of the AC. Just one of his 3 crashes... (and he
>kept going back up...sheesh ;)
I can top that: I had a buddy (AZ1 Bob Lakomski) who has
been in almost twenty crashes. Most were in helos and were
no big deal. The worst crash was in a S-2 during a rocket
run. Either the rocket hung on the rail or expolded (I don't
remember -- too long ago) but the S-2 went into the mountains
around China Lake. He said it took a couple of days for the
rescue. His left arm was all screwed up.
I can't document any of that. I can document the fact that
he's been in a P-3 crash. And lived.
W.E. Nichols
th...@reader.makes.me.doThis (BlackBeard) wrote:
+ Hey Nick. Where you at Fentris or Oceana in '72? My drinking buddy, a
+former metalsmith Chief and whaler, was in a crash at Oceana in that
+time. He was backseat in a TA-4 rolling for takeoff when an F-4 crossed
+in front of them on the runway. He said it took the crash crew several
+hours to cut him out of the AC. Just one of his 3 crashes... (and he
+kept going back up...sheesh ;)
I had Fentress from 79-82. In 72 I was the flight deck chief on the Tico
steaming somewhere in WestPac. Visiting Tom Popo's each time in Yoko.:)
Dan and Michele Miller
Ken Rose <ke...@yarmouth.engr.sgi.com> wrote in article
<5a48pg$d...@murrow.corp.sgi.com>...
> In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
> are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
> level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
> are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
> see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
>
> -- Ken
>
Those poles are the HF radio receiving antennas (there should be a blue
base on them); the transmit antennas are located on the island (red base),
where one would be less likely to receive RF burns. It may interest you to
note that these antennas are vertical while inport, a young seaman has to
climb out to the mounting platform while the ship enters or leaves port.
AW1 Dan Miller, CVN-65 class of 94-96
James Kohan
they're comm antenna's of some sort, not sure whether they're voice or
data.
BlackBeard
In article <dbryantE...@netcom.com>, dbr...@netcom.com (David K.
Bryant) wrote:
>
The worst crash was in a S-2 during a rocket
> run. Either the rocket hung on the rail or expolded (I don't
> remember -- too long ago) but the S-2 went into the mountains
> around China Lake. He said it took a couple of days for the
> rescue. His left arm was all screwed up.
If you can find an approximate date I can look it up for you here...
BlackBeard
>
> I had Fentress from 79-82. In 72 I was the flight deck chief on the Tico
> steaming somewhere in WestPac. Visiting Tom Popo's each time in Yoko.:)
>
DON'T drink anything with the ice... ;) Trust me on this one ...
Steven M. Davenport
BlackBeard wrote:
>
> In article <5a48pg$d...@murrow.corp.sgi.com>, ke...@yarmouth.engr.sgi.com
> (Ken Rose) wrote:
>
> > are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
> > are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
> > see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
> >
>
>
> BlackBeard
> -. .- -..- --.-
> De Profundis
>
> Submarines once, Submarines twice...
feelers to park there "boats"........
Steve Davenport
ATCS (AW) Ret.
Tim Tyler
HF antennae, methinks.
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Tim Tyler
BlackBeard wrote:
>
> In article <5a48pg$d...@murrow.corp.sgi.com>, ke...@yarmouth.engr.sgi.com
> (Ken Rose) wrote:
>
> > In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
> > are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
> > level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
> > are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
> > see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
> >
>
> hehehe... curb feelers.. ;)
Used to be inconspicuous while steaming in or near the Black Sea?
> BlackBeard
Jerome O'Neil
Tim Tyler wrote:
> > > In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
> > > are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
> > > level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
> > > are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
> > > see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
> > hehehe... curb feelers.. ;)
ROFL. The straight guy says "They are antennas."
Jerome
Eric Gross
>Just what one would expect from a Bubblehead.....maybe THEY need curb
>feelers to park there "boats"........
At least Bubbleheads know how to spell "their." :)
Bob Keeter
Tim Tyler <tty...@mich.com> wrote:
>Steven M. Davenport wrote:
>>
>> BlackBeard wrote:
>> >
>> > In article <5a48pg$d...@murrow.corp.sgi.com>, ke...@yarmouth.engr.sgi.com
>> >
>> > > In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
>> > > are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
>> > > level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
>> > > are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
>> > > see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
>> > >
>> >
>> > hehehe... curb feelers.. ;)
>> >
>> > -. .- -..- --.-
>> > De Profundis
>> >
>> > Submarines once, Submarines twice...
>> feelers to park there "boats"........
>>
>> ATCS (AW) Ret.
>
> HF antennae, methinks.
>
Nah, the curb feelers match the carpet on the overhead and the
fuzzy dice on the bridge! Its a matched set for effect!
Sorry. . . . . .
bk
Tim McFeely
"Steven M. Davenport" <ev...@cnw.com> wrote:
>BlackBeard wrote:
>>
>> In article <5a48pg$d...@murrow.corp.sgi.com>, ke...@yarmouth.engr.sgi.com
>> (Ken Rose) wrote:
>>
>> > In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
>> > are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
>> > level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
>> > are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
>> > see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
>> >
>>
>> hehehe... curb feelers.. ;)
>>
>> BlackBeard
>> -. .- -..- --.-
>> De Profundis
>>
>> Submarines once, Submarines twice...
>Just what one would expect from a Bubblehead.....maybe THEY need curb
>feelers to park there "boats"........
After numerous discussions about the difficulty in parking the only
vessel in the USN worth a shit, maybe 'curb feelers' would be a
worthwhile investment.
My concern is that a Senior Chief with obvious carrier experience did
not kno^H^H^H^H, err...refused to answer the question. Must be the
'new' Navy. I can't remember a time were a Senior Chief did not have
an answer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Steve Davenport
>ATCS (AW) Ret.
Scope's under...
Tim McFeely
An honest to goodness TM (SS)
...not one of them pedigreed MMs
fla...@wsii.com (new e-mail address)
ad...@osfn.rhilinet.gov (still works, too)
P.J. Josh Rovero
>>> In article <5a48pg$d...@murrow.corp.sgi.com>, ke...@yarmouth.engr.sgi.com
>>> (Ken Rose) wrote:
>>>
>>> > In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
>>> > are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
>>> > level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
>>> > are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
>>> > see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
These are standard 10 meter vertical whip antennas. On real ships
they are mounted vertically, on CVs they have a tilt mount -- put them
vertical when there are no flight ops, put 'em horizontal for flight ops.
Some helicopter carriers have the same feature.
P.J. "Josh" Rovero email: pro...@connix.com
Oceanographer work: rov...@sonalysts.com
Meteorologist radio: KK1D
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Andrew and Melissa Anne Creed
Close but no cigar. They are receiving antennae for HF frequencies. All
ships have them, the carriers just have more of them. The normal operating
position is in the lowered position. They are raised when going into port
and for some underway replenishment operations.
The transmitting antennae are much smaller and are usually located high up
on the superstructure. They are permanently fixed at about a 45 degree
angle.
P.J. "Josh" Rovero <pro...@connix.com> wrote in article
<5b43gj$n...@beast.connix.com>...
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> In a number of pictures I've seen of aircraft carriers, there
> are a number of relatively long poles near the flight-deck
> level aimed out from the ship. I was wondering what these
> are; they seem too long to be some type of gun, and I don't
> see any netting or anything to make them look like cranes.
>
>
>
>
> --
> ____________________________________________________________________
> Ken Rose (ke...@engr.sgi.com)
> The Usual Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed above are mine alone,
> not those of Silicon Graphics