Explanation Please: Rules of "Crud"
Paul Michael Brown
Reading various books about naval aviation and some of the posts here,
I've seen reference to a game called "crud." From what little I've read, I
gather it's played on a pool table, by teams of two players each who use
their hands to roll (hurl?) the balls around. But beyond that, I'm
clueless. This ignorance is inconsistent with my ambition to the be the
most knowledgeable armchair naval aviator in the wannabe fleet. So I
appeal to those of you who have been there, done that, and bought the
t-shirt. Anybody care to explain how "crud" is played?
Mike Yukish
Paul Michael Brown wrote:
The hurling comes afterward, depending on how well you can hold your beer...
You probably won't get many replies here, because crud is an Air Force
game. Best thing about the Air Force, along with their BOQs, O Clubs, and
golf courses. I learned it from a Naval Aviator who did an exchange tour
with them. He will probably read this post, since he lurks on the
newsgroup, but probably won't reply since he's afraid he might say
something stupid and people will laugh. If he does, he can tell you how we
hustled some retired Air Force General and his cronies at crud while at the
Andrews AFB O'Club recently.
--
Mike Yukish
may...@psu.edu
ARL/Penn State U
http://elvis.arl.psu.edu/~may106
The Jam
Thought that crud was another name for 'rolling the dice'. I believe that
this is popular game in the Navy and the USMC ready rooms and alert
shacks. Are they different things? It might have been a language
misunderstanding...
The Jam
the...@usa.net
Mike Yukish
In article <01bda5a0$6ac3a900$f1096ac2@x003k100>, "The Jam"
<the...@usa.net> wrote:
Two totally different games. Crud is played on a pooltable, Dice is played
with .... dice.
dcb
On 29 Jun 98 03:56:45 GMT, pa...@mirror.his.com (Paul Michael Brown)
wrote:
>
>Reading various books about naval aviation and some of the posts here,
>I've seen reference to a game called "crud." From what little I've read, I
>gather it's played on a pool table, by teams of two players each who use
>their hands to roll (hurl?) the balls around. But beyond that, I'm
>clueless. This ignorance is inconsistent with my ambition to the be the
>most knowledgeable armchair naval aviator in the wannabe fleet. So I
>appeal to those of you who have been there, done that, and bought the
>t-shirt. Anybody care to explain how "crud" is played?
Alright, as a NFO trained at Mather AFB, I guess I'll step up to the
plate. I forget the details, but here's the jist.
This is a Air Force game, rather than a Navy one.
Crud is indeed played at a pool table, without pool cues. The side
pockets are blocked. You can only play from the end of the table.
You have to use the cue ball to hit opponent's balls into the pockets.
Constant movement is required and key to the speed and riotousness of
the game. If the balls stop moving, you lose.
The rules are quite flexible though, as the night and beer tabs get
older.
Stand back and allow a lot of room if you ever see this game played.
By no means should you ever lean against the table (a good friend did
this and was lamed for the rest of the night).
"You despise me, don't you, Rick?"
"If I gave you any thought, I probably would."
Ogden Johnson III
Mike Yukish (may...@email.psu.edu) wrote:
: In article <01bda5a0$6ac3a900$f1096ac2@x003k100>, "The Jam"
: <the...@usa.net> wrote:
: > Thought that crud was another name for 'rolling the dice'. I believe that
: > this is popular game in the Navy and the USMC ready rooms and alert
: > shacks. Are they different things? It might have been a language
: > misunderstanding...
: Two totally different games. Crud is played on a pooltable, Dice is played
: with .... dice.
And Acey-Deucey [for Jam, the Navy/MC version of backgammon] is a so much
more civilized game.
OJ III
Pechs1
>>>This is a Air Force game, rather than a Navy one.
NOT TRUE we played CRUD all the time in VF-151-often against USAF guys in the
PI and Korea.
PChis
Marshall Smith
Couple of corrections.
Crud is really a Canadian Aviators Game. Since it entails consumption of
mass Quantities of Labatts Blue (High Alcohol content) Bear to maintain ones
strenght. The USAF just borrowed it. Every Canadian/NATO!! O'Club (where
Canadians are present) has a Crud Table. Yes its played from the ends of
the pool table. One can move around the table to grab the "contact ball"
(ball used to hit the "object ball"), but it must be rolled/tossed when the
teammate is located at either end of the table. If you toss the contact
ball before you are at teh end of the table a penalty called "Balls around
the corner" (for men, for women its "Holes around the corner".. this may be
a pre-tail hook term, but dont discount any of the canadian Military women,
they are not your dainty tea sippers, Hmm Sweet Sue Bahariol was one tough
Canadian Major and I hope she forgives me for the elephant joke I told (and
displayed my "trunk" and asked if she would feed it some peanuts) and your
team loses that point. The losing team must buy the winning team a dring of
the winning teams choice. the object of the game is to sink the "object"
ball into any of the pool table pockets (to include side pockets) using the
contact ball to impart velocity (speed & direction) to the object ball. The
object ball must not come to a rest on the table. if so your team loses.
(BTW teams are normally about 5-6 people).
Stategy. 1) sink the ball in the pocket, but normally once you let go of
the contact ball and it hits the object ball , your opponent has grabbed the
contact ball and is moving to the end of the table and usually knocking you
on your ass if you are in their way. They then use the contact ball to
thwart the object ball from going into the pocket to which it is heading.
2) tap the object ball so lightly (so that it stops on your opponent) with
the contact ball going in a off direction where he has to go a long ways to
retrieve it and get back to one of the ends of the table (of course you take
your sweet ass time getting out of his way) and if you are in his way, you
will soon be picking your ass off of the deck.
3) Drink more beer and be less drunk than your opponent.
I hope this explains it. There are some finer rules like the losing team
MUST have the winning teams beer on hand before the next game starts or you
will be washing your flight suit before the next morning because stale beer
draws a lot of attention (let alone the blood shot eyes) at the morning
brief. Normally you are eating popcorn and or peanuts and throwing the
shells on the floor too.
Lets see.. I think that may wrap it up... but we spent one hell of a week at
Maple Flag...with two Marine Reserve EA-6A Electric intruders. I remember
landing once with 500 gallons of fuel.... and the FB-111 that forgot to turn
off his chaff and strewwed about 50 lbs of boxed aluminum foil accross the
road into the base... oh yeh this was about Halloween time and the Canadians
call a big bunch of aircraft a "Gorilla" vs USN/USMC "gaggle" and USAF
"precision flying team (Sorry boys in blue). So we went out in town and got
two big gorrilla masks and put them on when we taxied the aircraft in.. the
look on the Canadian ground crews eyes when he saw two Gorillas taxiing in
an EA-6A... and of course a ribalious and very truthful debried=f (enhanced
by our aviation and sexual prowess) by the two air crew with the gorilla
masks on and a handful of bananas was the highlight of that
afternoons...flight events.
Sorry to digress.. I was on a roll...BTW I WAS SOBER most of the time since
I was the HMFWIC for that extremely well planned, safely executed detachment
to Maple Flag.
BTW ran into one of the Canadian F/A-18 pilots later in a Nato EW school.
They didn't buy the DECM upgrades with the monupulse jamming capability and
was looking for some smart EWO to help them....
TRON
dcb wrote in message <359b8f32....@news.newsguy.com>...
>On 29 Jun 98 03:56:45 GMT, pa...@mirror.his.com (Paul Michael Brown)
>wrote:
>>
>>Reading various books about naval aviation and some of the posts here,
>>I've seen reference to a game called "crud." From what little I've read, I
>>gather it's played on a pool table, by teams of two players each who use
>>their hands to roll (hurl?) the balls around. But beyond that, I'm
>>clueless. This ignorance is inconsistent with my ambition to the be the
>>most knowledgeable armchair naval aviator in the wannabe fleet. So I
>>appeal to those of you who have been there, done that, and bought the
>>t-shirt. Anybody care to explain how "crud" is played?
>
>Alright, as a NFO trained at Mather AFB, I guess I'll step up to the
>plate. I forget the details, but here's the jist.
>
>This is a Air Force game, rather than a Navy one.
>
Paul Michael Brown
Marshall Smith (MR_A...@email.msn.com) wrote:
: Crud is really a Canadian Aviators Game. Since it entails consumption of
: mass Quantities of Labatts Blue (High Alcohol content) Bear to maintain ones
: strength. The USAF just borrowed it. [Remainder of treatise snipped.]
Thanks very much for your informative explanation of the finer points of
"Crud." I now have a pretty good idea of how the game is played.
Kevin "Zip" Martin
Some of the best fun I've had was at the "Mess" in Baggotville and Cold
Lake with our friends from the North. They truly had the game down to
an art form.
Zip
3000+ hours in A-4's (A-4E, A-4F, A-4M, TA-4F, TA-4J)
"The quality of the box matters little. Success depends upon the man
who sits in it."
- Baron Manfred von Richthofen -