Canada IFR: What is VOR A ?
flyboy
In CAP "NDB A" and "VOR B" are described as fixes to be
used in Circling ONLY! However there is no Description on
"VOR A". What does it mean? I have looked at Arnprior, Ontario
that has only one approach and is "VOR/DME A".
Are there any other types of special fixes?
Any input is appreciated as I am preparing for my written soon.
I appreciate if you reply by e-mail to az...@nortel.ca.
Regards, Mehdi Azali
phil cohen
approach.
In fact, any nonprecision approach can have a letter after it,
indicating that it is not a straight in approach. In other words, the
final approach course is not lined up (within 30 degrees?) with the
runway. Hence these are circling approaches. (although you don't
necessarily have to perform a circling maneuver if 1) you see the runway
early enough and are continuously in a position to make a landing using
normal maneuvers, and 2) you are cleared to land straight-in.
Obviously these approaches have no straight in minima. They also do not
use a HAT (height above touchdown - measured above the highest point in
the first 2000 feet of the runway) but rather a HAA (height above
airport - measured above the highest point on the airport, since the
approach is not for a specific runway)
For different approach categories, there are also different radii of
protected airspace for the circling maneuver. See the AIM for details.
On the radio, you will be cleared for the "Vor Alpha" or "Vor/Dme Alpha"
or "NDB Alpha."
All this information is from a US pilot. There may be some things that
are different in Canada that I am not aware of.
Good Luck
phil cohen
phi...@worldnet.att.net
Hilton Goldstein
>I'm not sure why you are referring to "Vor A" as a fix - it is a type of
>approach.
>
>In fact, any nonprecision approach can have a letter after it,
>indicating that it is not a straight in approach. In other words, the
>final approach course is not lined up (within 30 degrees?) with the
>runway.
...OR one in which a normal rate of descent will not allow you to land on
the runway. For example, a VOR approach may be perfectly aligned with the
runway, but the MAP might be at the VOR on the field and the MDA could be
2000' AGL. That would be a circling approach too.
Hilton
Stan Gosnell
If an approach is a straight-in to a runway, it will have the runway
number, as in 'VOR 26'. If it has a letter (any letter) it does not
lead straight-in to a runway. In general, the first approach (of a
type) designed is called A, the second B, etc. There is no other
difference between them.
--
Regards,
Stan
John T. Lowry
that the proper spelling is "VOR, eh?"
--
John T. Lowry, PhD
Flight Physics; Box 20919; Billings MT 59104
Voice: 406-248-2606
Hilton Goldstein wrote in message <74hojj$m2a$1...@newshost.ihighway.net>...
Tim the Tower Man
flyboy wrote in message <366C5083...@nortel.ca>...
>Hello all:
> In CAP "NDB A" and "VOR B" are described as fixes to be
> used in Circling ONLY! However there is no Description on
> "VOR A". What does it mean? I have looked at Arnprior, Ontario
> that has only one approach and is "VOR/DME A".
I'm not sure if this is the answer to your question, but here in NZ, an
approach which is not straight in to a runway (final approach track at an
angle to runway centreline) is called an ALFA approach. Presumably if there
are several approaches of this type at one location, they get different
letters of the Alphabet.
There are also categories A, B, C & D when you look at the minima which
refer to the speed categories of the aircraft.
Tim Marett
Aka Tim the Tower Man
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Pierre Vachon
John T. Lowry wrote in message <74i1cc$cde$1...@news.mcn.net>...
>You guys are too much! As a former Canadian, landed immigrant, I can attest
>that the proper spelling is "VOR, eh?"
>
I live in Canada and thought that was very very funny. Good one.
lbrousso
flyboy a écrit dans le message <366C5083...@nortel.ca>...
>Hello all:
> In CAP "NDB A" and "VOR B" are described as fixes to be
> used in Circling ONLY! However there is no Description on
> "VOR A". What does it mean? I have looked at Arnprior, Ontario
> that has only one approach and is "VOR/DME A".
>
> Any input is appreciated as I am preparing for my written soon.
>
> I appreciate if you reply by e-mail to az...@nortel.ca.
>
>Regards, Mehdi Azali
>
For the VOR A or in this example VOR/DME A is the same thing that NDB A or
VOR B. On the CAP, NDB A and VOR B is only an example. But you can retrieve
VOR A, NDB B etc..... If you see a type of approach (VOR; NDB;
VOR/DME;.....) following by a letter (A; B; C) for an airport, this approach
are an indirect approach (circling) for many reason; terrain, too much
angle with the runway on final or other reason.
On CAP it's write in this instrument approach you're clear to use the
minimum altitude of circling (Sorry if it's not the same word in the CAP
because is a translation of the french version).
Luc Brousseau
Canadian commercial licence-aeroplane, multi-IFR
lbro...@cooptel.qc.ca
P@Pilot
only brings you down to a "Circlimg minima" if you look at the minima box of
the procedure, you will see that there is only circling.
You can fly the approach & circle to any runway you wish.
This is mostly due to the angle at which the aircraft is approaching the
runway. There can be circling minima only for other reasons but usually the
angle to the runways is the most common one...
Have a look at Kenora ontario that's another excellent example why it is
circling only...
Cheers!
-Peanut