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Divot49911

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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What are RAIL lights? I believe it stands for runway alignment
indicator
lights, but what exactly are they? I see them refered to on Jepp approach
plates with higher minimums for the approach if they are inop. They aren't
just the runway edge lights themselves are they?
On NOS charts I don't see that acronym used in the inoperatvie
components table, although perhaps its used on individual charts as
notes, but none that I can find. Granted my NOS chart book is 8 years old
so maybe things have changed.
Anyway, I feel like this must be a stupid question but what are they?
Can't find it in the AIM under lighting, or anywhere else although surely
its there somewhere! Thanks for any help.


Terry Jamison

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Jun 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/23/97
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Divot49911 wrote:

RAIL: Runway Alignmnet Indicator Lights (Sequenced Flashing Lights
which
are installed only in combination with other light systems)

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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>&nbsp; What are RAIL lights?&nbsp; I believe it stands
for runway alignment
<BR>indicator
<BR>lights, but what exactly are they?&nbsp; I see them refered to on Jepp
approach
<BR>plates with higher minimums for the approach if they are inop. They
aren't
<BR>just the runway edge lights themselves are they?
<BR>&nbsp; On NOS charts I don't see that acronym used in the inoperatvie
<BR>components table,&nbsp; although perhaps its used on individual charts
as
<BR>notes, but none that I can find. Granted my NOS chart book is 8 years
old
<BR>so maybe things have changed.
<BR>Anyway,&nbsp; I feel like this must be a stupid question but what are
they?
<BR>Can't find it in the AIM under lighting, or anywhere else although
surely
<BR>its there somewhere!&nbsp; Thanks for any help.</BLOCKQUOTE>
&nbsp; RAIL: Runway Alignmnet Indicator Lights (Sequenced Flashing Lights
which
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Trevor Fenn

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Jun 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/24/97
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Divot49911 wrote:
>
> What are RAIL lights? I believe it stands for runway alignment
> indicator
> lights, but what exactly are they? I see them refered to on Jepp approach
> plates with higher minimums for the approach if they are inop. They aren't
> just the runway edge lights themselves are they?
> On NOS charts I don't see that acronym used in the inoperatvie
> components table, although perhaps its used on individual charts as
> notes, but none that I can find. Granted my NOS chart book is 8 years old
> so maybe things have changed.
> Anyway, I feel like this must be a stupid question but what are they?
> Can't find it in the AIM under lighting, or anywhere else although surely
> its there somewhere! Thanks for any help.

FAR 1.2

RAIL Runway Alignment Indicator Light System

The lights leading up to the end of the runway

see also

REIL Runway End Identification Lights

TrevorFenn

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Jim Spradley

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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divot...@aol.com (Divot49911) writes: >
> What are RAIL lights? I believe it stands for runway alignment
> indicator
> lights, but what exactly are they? I see them refered to on Jepp approach
> plates with higher minimums for the approach if they are inop. They aren't
> just the runway edge lights themselves are they?
> On NOS charts I don't see that acronym used in the inoperatvie
> components table, although perhaps its used on individual charts as
> notes, but none that I can find. Granted my NOS chart book is 8 years old
> so maybe things have changed.
> Anyway, I feel like this must be a stupid question but what are they?
> Can't find it in the AIM under lighting, or anywhere else although surely
> its there somewhere! Thanks for any help.
>

Look in the AIM--pilot controller glossary under AIRPORT LIGHTING.
You're correct, it stands for Runway Alignment Indicator Lights.
They are the sequenced flashing lights installed as part of the
approach lights. More commonly referred to as the "rabbit".


Jim Spradley

Garner Miller

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Jun 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/25/97
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In article <33AFCD...@erols.com>, Trevor Fenn
<trevfen...@erols.com> wrote:

> > What are RAIL lights? I believe it stands for runway alignment
> > indicator lights, but what exactly are they?

> FAR 1.2


> RAIL Runway Alignment Indicator Light System
> The lights leading up to the end of the runway

True, but still probably doesn't answer much. :-)


RAILs, when they extend outside the remainder of the approach lighting
system, are a sequence of flashing strobe lights commonly known as the
"Rabbit." If they're located withing the approach lighting sytsem,
they're known as Sequenced Flashing Lights (SFL) rather than RAILs.

Hope that helps.

--
Garner R. Miller, Flight Instructor
FAA Aviation Safety Counselor
Hawthorne Aviation - Ocala, Florida
http://www.netstreet.net/hawthorne/


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Ray W. Stratton

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Jun 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/26/97
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Jim Spradley wrote:

>
> divot...@aol.com (Divot49911) writes: >
> > What are RAIL lights? I believe it stands for runway alignment
> > indicator
> > lights, but what exactly are they? I see them refered to on Jepp approach
> > plates with higher minimums for the approach if they are inop. They aren't
> > just the runway edge lights themselves are they?
> > On NOS charts I don't see that acronym used in the inoperatvie
> > components table, although perhaps its used on individual charts as
> > notes, but none that I can find. Granted my NOS chart book is 8 years old
> > so maybe things have changed.
> > Anyway, I feel like this must be a stupid question but what are they?
> > Can't find it in the AIM under lighting, or anywhere else although surely
> > its there somewhere! Thanks for any help.
> >
>
> Look in the AIM--pilot controller glossary under AIRPORT LIGHTING.
> You're correct, it stands for Runway Alignment Indicator Lights.
> They are the sequenced flashing lights installed as part of the
> approach lights. More commonly referred to as the "rabbit".
>
> Jim Spradley
However if you have pax on board who are animal rights folks, and you
want to have the tower turn off the RAIL, which they will do, do not use
the 'pilot' phrase, "strangle the rabbit". You can of course still
"squawk the parrot".

Divot49911

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Jun 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM6/29/97
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<<<<RAILs, when they extend outside the remainder of the approach lighting
system, are a sequence of flashing strobe lights commonly known as the
"Rabbit." If they're located withing the approach lighting sytsem,
they're known as Sequenced Flashing Lights (SFL) rather than RAILs.<<<<<


Hope that helps.<<<<..--

Garner R. Miller, Flight Instructor
FAA Aviation Safety Counselor
Hawthorne Aviation - Ocala, Florida
http://www.netstreet.net/hawthorne/
<<<<<<<<<


AHA! ok thanks :-)....i knew it was acronym for "runway alingment
indicator lights" but that didn't explain to me exaclty which lights
those were.... You did though, thanks a million :).


Skydive763

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Jul 1, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/1/97
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I believe when Runway Alignment Indenfication Lights are inop. the
visibility requirements go higher due to the fact that the runway
enviroment will not be seen as soon as if they were operative.
The RAILs precede the runway by some distance to give a visual cue of
approaching runway.
The NOS plates have inop tables now.

Valentinus Brinkmann

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Jul 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/7/97
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Terry Jamison wrote:

>
> Divot49911 wrote:
>
> > What are RAIL lights? I believe it stands for runway alignment
> > indicator
> > lights, but what exactly are they? I see them refered to on Jepp
> > approach
> > plates with higher minimums for the approach if they are inop. They
> > aren't
> > just the runway edge lights themselves are they?
> > On NOS charts I don't see that acronym used in the inoperatvie
> > components table, although perhaps its used on individual charts as
> > notes, but none that I can find. Granted my NOS chart book is 8 years
> > old
> > so maybe things have changed.
> > Anyway, I feel like this must be a stupid question but what are they?
> >
> > Can't find it in the AIM under lighting, or anywhere else although
> > surely
> > its there somewhere! Thanks for any help.
>
> RAIL: Runway Alignmnet Indicator Lights (Sequenced Flashing Lights
> which
> are installed only in combination with other light systems)
>
> [Image]
It's basically a pair of strobed white lights, one on each side of teh
approach end of a runway(not sequenced like a rabbit). Main functionis
to seperate the runway from other lighting in developed areas that have
alot of lights at night. Ever try to pick out a runway in a very
developed areas with lots of high pressure sodium lighting can be
tough..

Ray Andraka

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Jul 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/7/97
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No, that is the REIL or runway end identifier lights. RAIL is as stated
above in the previous message.

Al Secen

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Jul 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/7/97
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In article <33C06A...@earthlink.net>,

>It's basically a pair of strobed white lights, one on each side of teh
>approach end of a runway(not sequenced like a rabbit). Main functionis
>to seperate the runway from other lighting in developed areas that have
>alot of lights at night. Ever try to pick out a runway in a very
>developed areas with lots of high pressure sodium lighting can be
>tough..

I think what you're referring to is REIL, Runway End Identifier Lights.
RAIL is Runway alignment identifier lights...the sequenced strobes
used to ALIGN yourself with the runway. I certainly wouldn't
try aligning to the runway with a pair of strobes...


Al Secen

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Ron Natalie

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Jul 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/7/97
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> It's basically a pair of strobed white lights, one on each side of teh
> approach end of a runway(not sequenced like a rabbit). Main functionis
> to seperate the runway from other lighting in developed areas that have
> alot of lights at night. Ever try to pick out a runway in a very
> developed areas with lots of high pressure sodium lighting

Nope, that's a REIL - Runway End Identifier Light.

Scott Kohne

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Jul 7, 1997, 3:00:00 AM7/7/97
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Valentinus Brinkmann wrote:
>
> Terry Jamison wrote:
> >
> > Divot49911 wrote:
> >
> > > What are RAIL lights? I believe it stands for runway alignment
> > > indicator
> > > lights, but what exactly are they? I see them refered to on Jepp
> > > approach
> > > plates with higher minimums for the approach if they are inop. They
> > > aren't
> > > just the runway edge lights themselves are they?
> > > On NOS charts I don't see that acronym used in the inoperatvie
> > > components table, although perhaps its used on individual charts as
> > > notes, but none that I can find. Granted my NOS chart book is 8 years
> > > old
> > > so maybe things have changed.
> > > Anyway, I feel like this must be a stupid question but what are they?
> > >
> > > Can't find it in the AIM under lighting, or anywhere else although
> > > surely
> > > its there somewhere! Thanks for any help.
> >
> > RAIL: Runway Alignmnet Indicator Lights (Sequenced Flashing Lights
> > which
> > are installed only in combination with other light systems)
> >
> > [Image]
> It's basically a pair of strobed white lights, one on each side of teh
> approach end of a runway(not sequenced like a rabbit). Main functionis
> to seperate the runway from other lighting in developed areas that have
> alot of lights at night. Ever try to pick out a runway in a very
> developed areas with lots of high pressure sodium lighting can be
> tough..

I believe what you are talking about are REIL (Runway End Identifier
Lights)

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