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Why did Zenair drop the CH300?

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RC Jordan

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Feb 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/13/00
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I think now would be an ideal time to bring back the CH300 and offer it in a
complete kit with fast-build options. I mean, this aircraft is very
capable, very low cost to operate, easy to fly and forgiving for new pilots.
It strikes a needed compromise between 2 place and 4 place homebuilts. I
have been in contact with Zenair and this has only further convinced me of
the CH300's capabilities. Although it's regular gross weight is 1850lbs, it
can haul greater loads and 2000lbs is not unheard of and she maintains g
ratings above what would be the normal category for a production aircraft
even loaded past the 1850lbs gross on up to 2000lbs and more (although
takeoff/climb drops off as expected). With an O-320 + a bolt-on tuned
exhaust (about a 165 - 175hp output configuration) the CH300 can be a true
three person aircraft. I heard of a flight where a CH300 went cost to coast
in Canada with enough extra fuel to go non-stop, it was loaded beyond
2500lbs gross or so I have been told! combine all this with a cruise of
130 - 140 mph on average, Zenair's legendary ease of construction and kit
quality, and the simplicity, low cost of the CH300 and you have an
attractive combination that would appeal to the 1st time builder and new
pilot that wants a little more capability than most 2 place homebuilts in
the price range offer.

The CH300 was plans-built, except I think the spars were pre-made for you.
I would wager that Zenair could sell a lot of CH300's if offered in the type
of complete kit packages as the CH 601 series.

Just my $0.02

RC


Ric Lee

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Feb 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/14/00
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They had to drop it. They heard Tommy Cooper was building one! ;^)

Ric Lee

Dion Marshall

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Feb 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/14/00
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In article <38A7AD3F...@earthlink.net>,
Ric Lee <ric...@earthlink.net> wrote:
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>
> They had to drop it. They heard Tommy Cooper was building one! ;^)
>
> Ric Lee
>

Boy, there's a guy just looking for an accident!

Dion


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tom c

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Feb 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/14/00
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RC Jordan wrote in message ...
snip lots of good stuff...

>) the CH300 can be a true >three person aircraft.

Unless the people are built like St. Jennyne and I - then it's two plus St.
Jennyne's lugage :)

I heard of a flight where a CH300 went cost to coast
>in Canada with enough extra fuel to go non-stop,

That particular plane is in an air museum in Canada.


combine all this with a cruise of>130 - 140 mph on average, Zenair's
legendary ease of construction and kit
>quality, and the simplicity,

You haven't seen the fuel tanks


low cost of the CH300 and you have an
>attractive combination that would appeal to the 1st time builder and new
>pilot that wants a little more capability than most 2 place homebuilts in
>the price range offer.
>
>The CH300 was plans-built, except I think the spars were pre-made for you.

Nope, you get to do the spars, but they are not that difficult.

>I would wager that Zenair could sell a lot of CH300's if offered in the
type
>of complete kit packages as the CH 601 series.
>
>Just my $0.02
>
>RC

Especially if they made it a true four seater.
Wanna start a petition?
Tom "Bring back the venerable Tri Z" Cooper

Gary Mulready

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Mar 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/16/00
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Just reading through the newsgroup when I spotted your letter about
the CH300. The article about the CH300 flight across Canada appears in a
1978 issue of "Canadian Homebuilt Aircraft". The pilot was Red Morris. The
CH300 had a Lycoming 0-360 (180 hp), gross weight of 2500 lbs this was
due to the amount of fuel on board (170 gals). The normal gross weight of a
CH300 is about 1850lbs (empty weight between 1050 to 1150 lbs) and carries
about 34 gals of fuel.
I agree that the aircraft would make a nice kit, but can also be
plans build (which I'm trying to now). It is very similar to all of Chris
Heintz designs in the materials used and the construction techniques used.
On two occasions I have been up in a CH300. It feels a great deal
like a C172 in the way its handles. The one thing that was noticeable was
how must the nose is down in level flight compare to a C172.
Gary


tom c

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Mar 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/17/00
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> On two occasions I have been up in a CH300. It feels a great deal
>like a C172 in the way its handles. The one thing that was noticeable was
>how must the nose is down in level flight compare to a C172.
> Gary

Does that effect the stall characteristics? I'm building one too.
Tom Cooper

Ron Hansen

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Mar 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/17/00
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Why does any company drop a product? It wasn't making the bottom line. Too
bad, it is a nice plane.


tom c

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Mar 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/18/00
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Ron Hansen wrote in message <8au30...@enews4.newsguy.com>...

>Why does any company drop a product? It wasn't making the bottom line. Too
>bad, it is a nice plane.
>
>
Anyone for a petition to bring back the 300?
Tom Cooper

Ron Hansen

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Mar 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/18/00
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I wouldn't sign it unless I planned on buying one, and I've already decided
on the CH-601 HD with a Soob motor.

Ron
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tom c

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Mar 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/19/00
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Stop in here Ron.
Matronics sponsors a builders list for several different planes including
the Zenair. Lots of good stuff on soob power
Tom Cooper
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Gary Mulready

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Mar 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/20/00
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Tom I can't say for sure because we didn't do any stalls. It landed normally
as far as I could tell. There use to be a website called "The Unofficial
CH300 Page", put up by Craig Cousins I believe. He talked about the building
of his CH300 and also included pictures of his project. I have been unable
to find the site anymore so I don't know if it's still up and running. He
did finish his CH300 and was flying off the test time.
Gary
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