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Dave Hyde

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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Robert Smith wrote:

> Are (midtime) used engines easily available. If so, why?

Other people are better qualified to tell you the pros and cons, but in
my recent search for a Lyc. O-320, I found quite a few possibilities for
mid- to high-time engines in model numbers I was considering (D, E). A
few people here helped me out, referring to Trade-a-Plane and
Barnstormers led me to a few, and just plain old legwork got me a few.
Deciding what's worth a look and what's a good price is another
matter...and I'll probably post more when I make my decision (notice I
didn't say when I find an engine).

Dave 'AD infinitum' Hyde
na...@brick.net

Kemo

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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Oh great....this is what I get to look forward to when I decide to build a
plane also?! I never thought that this would be an issue. :-(

Which are the easier ones to find? I may consider a different model if
there is an easier option available. I would LIKE to build a XL Velocity
but if IO-540 are hard to find and the IO-360 is easier, I may go for the
Standard instead. I imagine the smaller ones are more prosperous.

Thanks.

KBoatri144

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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>I would LIKE to build a XL Velocity
>but if IO-540 are hard to find and the IO-360 is easier, I may go for the
>Standard instead. I imagine the smaller ones are more prosperous.
>
>Thanks.
>

Because of the popularity of the RV series, and various other designs that use
the 150 - 200 hp lycoming 4 cylinder engines, <good> four cylinder engines are
becoming harder to find (especially the 180 and 200 hp models). You will
probably be able to find a 6 cylinder Lycoming just as easily, and maybe at the
same price or better.

KB

Kemo

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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> Because of the popularity of the RV series, and various other designs that
use
> the 150 - 200 hp lycoming 4 cylinder engines, <good> four cylinder engines
are
> becoming harder to find (especially the 180 and 200 hp models). You will
> probably be able to find a 6 cylinder Lycoming just as easily, and maybe
at the
> same price or better.
>
> KB


Are these 6 cylinder engines approved in the Velocity's? I know they list a
Franklin engine as "approved."
Thanks for the help / post KB.

RobertR237

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Jun 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/13/00
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In article <A3k15.1536$hv1....@news1.frmt1.sfba.home.com>, "Kemo"
<kmo...@yahoo.com> writes:

Don't forget the six cylinder Continental engine as well. The Franklin was use
with good success and is a substantially less cost option.


Bob Reed
http://robertr237.virtualave.net/ (KIS Project)
KIS Cruiser in progress...2001 Oshkosh Odessy ;-) (I can hope!)

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and Slide on the
Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freidman)


CW9371

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Jun 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/14/00
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>
>Don't forget the six cylinder Continental engine as well. The Franklin was
>use
>with good success and is a substantially less cost option.
>

i didnt think that the franklin was a 6 cyclinder or if it was, its only like
200 hp. I am sure I am wrong as I am told so often on this list, but I would
be interested in a different and cheaper options for my rocket since I dont
feel like paying 34,000 for a rebuild I0 540 if I dont have to.

Chris Wilcox
F1 rocket #000

Omar Filipovic

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Jun 14, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/14/00
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> i didnt think that the franklin was a 6 cyclinder ...

http://www.ezlink.com/~franklin/
http://www.newaviation.com/engines6.html
http://www.geocities.com/joshairplane/franklin2.html
http://www.wskpzlrz.com.pl/www-wsk/products.htm
http://www.wskpzlrz.com.pl/www-wsk/PZL-F6a.JPG

I just happen to be eying the Franklin for my project, so I have these links
handy...
Omar Filipovic
Tulsa OK
Cozy Mk4

RobertR237

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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In article <20000614021244...@ng-cg1.aol.com>, cw9...@aol.com
(CW9371) writes:

The Franklin is a six cylinder and is rated at 205 by some ratings and 220 by
others. I would say the 205 hp is probably accurate. The equilivent
Continental is the IO-360 and is rated at 210hp. It is also a 6 cylinder
engine. The next step up the line is the IO-470 which is slightly more
powerful but adds considerable to the weight as well. From there you move upto
the 540 and many more bucks as well. There are some real bargains to be had
with the IO-470 if that would satisfy you needs.

O-ring Seals

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Jun 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/15/00
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On 15 Jun 2000 00:12:37 GMT, rober...@aol.compost (RobertR237)
wrote:

The Continental IO-360 is a nice, and good looking, little engine. I
fly behind a couple IO-470's and love them. The only problem with the
Continentals, if you want to do aerobatics, is that they are not
readily converted to an inverted oil system.

O-ring Seals

Philip

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Jun 20, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/20/00
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I want to build a BD-4. I am in the Tampabay area. I want to find someone
who also want to build a BD-4 who would want to rent a shop where two BD-4's
could be built. That way we could share cost of equipment.


David Pincus

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Jun 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/21/00
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Have you ever bothered to READ R.A.H??? Someone has been posting
regularly try to SELL a BD-4 project who lives in Tampa! How much easier
does it get?:

FLF...@tampabay.rr.com

BD-4 Project for sale in FLA - details attached

Philip

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Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
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I didn't ask to buy one. I know about the one in FL. Go back to the second
grade and learn to read. Then reread my post. Is there anything in my
post about buying a BD-4? NO.

BTW for all you know I just might be thinking about buying the BD-4 in FL.
I still want to find someone willing to build another beside mine. Two
minds are better than one.

David Pincus <dpi...@XXXerols.com> wrote in message
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BOb

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Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 02:02:49 GMT, "Philip" <ples...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

>I didn't ask to buy one. I know about the one in FL. Go back to the second
>grade and learn to read. Then reread my post. Is there anything in my
>post about buying a BD-4? NO.
>
>BTW for all you know I just might be thinking about buying the BD-4 in FL.
>I still want to find someone willing to build another beside mine. Two
>minds are better than one.
>

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Ah, yes.
With the clarity of your post above, builders will surely come flocking.

BOb - irresistible - U.

David Pincus

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Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
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Thank you Bob (I can't believe I'm saying that).

As for the comment "I didn't ask to buy one"....

>>Philip wrote:
>>
>> I want to build a BD-4....

That sounds like future tense to me, as though you didn't own a kit or
plans, so I thought I'd steer you towards someone nearby who had one.
Excuuuuse Me!

'Pastor' Dave

John Schneitman

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Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
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Man, I can't believe this, I live right down the street from you Philip. I
have a 80 X 80 shop in my backyard with 2 BD-4 kits inside just waiting for
someone to come over and help me open the crates. Boy what luck running
into you on the internet. We're gonna have a blast. Give me a call!!!


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Philip

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Jun 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM6/22/00
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This doesn't involve anyone who has posted to my reply yet! But to
someone who wants to build their own BD-4, but need to rent a place to do
it.

I happen to live in a subdivision that requires your cars to be parked in
the garage every night. Most of the homes in our subdivision have three car
garages, I made the mistake of gettting a two car garage house. I need to
move, or rent a plave to build. I figured that there may be someone in the
Tampa area that would like to share the expense of renting a place to build
and the cost of common tools. We each pay for our own planes. I don't want
to share my plane with another person. Just the building process. Kinda
like a minature build center.

I build my BD-4 (still one of, if not the best, kit planes ever produced)
The other person build theirs BD-4. With two people build the same plane,
maybe mistakes will be held to minimuim. It would also seem that sharing of
labor could lower build time. If you need more information I would be will
to e-mail my phone number so we can talk in person.

I am sorry that I have confussed so many, hopefully I have made my point
more clearly.

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