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Anybody got a 12v turn&bank they can part with??

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Jim Weir

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Aug 11, 2002, 1:38:10 PM8/11/02
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The "overhauled" T&B that I swapped for last year caught fire on the way home
from Oshkosh. Well, "fire" may be a little strong, but the inside of the case
is badly smoke damaged and we had to pull the breaker to keep it from really
flaming.

This in succession to the one the year previous that froze a bearing and popped
the breaker on its own. That was interesting, as the oil pressure and both fuel
gauges are run from the instruments breaker that the T&B popped. Sigh.

At any rate, anybody got a 12 volt working T&B they wanna swap for pictures of
old dead men? Working is necessary, yellow tag is not. As any fool can plainly
see from the above, the yellow tag only adds paper to the fuel load for the
fire.

Email or newsgroup, your choice.

Jim

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
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Jim Weir

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Aug 11, 2002, 1:45:08 PM8/11/02
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Or, I can make you a HELL of a deal on a new audio panel kit.

{;-)

jw


Jim Weir <j...@rst-engr.com>
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:


->At any rate, anybody got a 12 volt working T&B they wanna swap for pictures of
->old dead men?

Roger Halstead

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Aug 11, 2002, 1:56:56 PM8/11/02
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I have one, but it comes installed in an exorbinately priced Debonair which
you'd have to purchase to get the TC.


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Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73)
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N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

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jerry wass

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Aug 11, 2002, 2:06:32 PM8/11/02
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Why doncha git one of them 28V military jobs cheep & hook it up to a
12X24 Volt converter, thas what I wound up with, when you git thru,
tell me how you 'liminated the squeal. Jerry

jerry wass

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Aug 11, 2002, 2:09:17 PM8/11/02
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NO! WAIT-- on that one , I went inside & rewound the
transformer/transistor power supply to work on 12.34 volts.

Fred Mahan

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Aug 11, 2002, 5:27:57 PM8/11/02
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Jim --

>snip<

> At any rate, anybody got a 12 volt working T&B they wanna swap for
pictures of
> old dead men? Working is necessary, yellow tag is not. As any fool can
plainly
> see from the above, the yellow tag only adds paper to the fuel load for
the
> fire.

Are you looking for a T&B or a TC? I overbought on TC's for my homebuilt
project and have two. Both are from Electric Gyro Corporation, Wichita,
Model 1394T100-7Z, with off flags. Bought them both rebuilt from Century
Instruments at SNF, different years, I guess. Interested? Offer?

Fred


jerry wass

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Aug 11, 2002, 9:17:44 PM8/11/02
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I think my brain locked up-what's a TC??

Mark Smith

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Aug 11, 2002, 10:19:06 PM8/11/02
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Jim Weir wrote:
>
> The "overhauled" T&B that I swapped for last year caught fire on the way home
> from Oshkosh. Well, "fire" may be a little strong, but the inside of the case
> is badly smoke damaged and we had to pull the breaker to keep it from really
> flaming.
>
> This in succession to the one the year previous that froze a bearing and popped
> the breaker on its own. That was interesting, as the oil pressure and both fuel
> gauges are run from the instruments breaker that the T&B popped. Sigh.
>
> At any rate, anybody got a 12 volt working T&B they wanna swap for pictures of
> old dead men? Working is necessary, yellow tag is not. As any fool can plainly
> see from the above, the yellow tag only adds paper to the fuel load for the
> fire.
>
> Email or newsgroup, your choice.
>
> Jim


Jim, I had an electric TnB on my ultralight many years ago.

I thought it might make me a better pilot !!

NOT !

I found that the standard turn took two minutes,,, and most of my
patterns complete took less than two minutes,

It created some really boring flying so I sold it to a friend with a 182
who operated a drop zone.

He didn't use it either, but maybe needed it for something, maybe to be
legal possibly.
--


Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620 mailto:ma...@trikite.com
1-812-838-6351

Jim Fisher

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Aug 11, 2002, 10:29:52 PM8/11/02
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"jerry wass" <wassb...@tds.net> wrote in message

> I think my brain locked up-what's a TC??

Turn Coordinator. You know, you got that instrument with an up/down needle
that, if you fly like me, swings back and forth like one of those piano
rhythm timers. Then you have the one with a little plastic low wing (even
in high wings!). I forget which one's a turn coordinator and which one's a
T&B but . . . there you go.

--
Jim Fisher
Cherokee 180
www.EAAChapter615.org

Neal

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Aug 11, 2002, 11:10:06 PM8/11/02
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The needle-equipped units are Turn & Bank indicators, the units with
the little airplane are Turn Coordinators.

Interestingly, all the T&Bs I've ever seen personally (in older
Cessnas) were all calibrated for 4 minute turns... not the standard 2
minute turns like TCs. I presume there must also be 2 minute
calibrated T&Bs out there too?

Dave Stadt

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Aug 12, 2002, 8:48:43 AM8/12/02
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"Neal" <T...@CheckerBird.PA28.140> wrote in message
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> The needle-equipped units are Turn & Bank indicators, the units with
> the little airplane are Turn Coordinators.
>
> Interestingly, all the T&Bs I've ever seen personally (in older
> Cessnas) were all calibrated for 4 minute turns... not the standard 2
> minute turns like TCs. I presume there must also be 2 minute
> calibrated T&Bs out there too?

Mine is calibrated for two minute turns. That or my clock is running half
speed or is it double speed.

Ron Natalie

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Aug 12, 2002, 10:04:57 AM8/12/02
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Neal wrote:
> The needle-equipped units are Turn & Bank indicators, the units with
> the little airplane are Turn Coordinators.
>
> Interestingly, all the T&Bs I've ever seen personally (in older
> Cessnas) were all calibrated for 4 minute turns... not the standard 2
> minute turns like TCs. I presume there must also be 2 minute
> calibrated T&Bs out there too?
>
That's a bizarre experience. All the needle-balls I've come accross
(including the one in my plane) have been 2 minute turns.

cahoontc

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Aug 12, 2002, 2:55:58 PM8/12/02
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Cleaning the garage found Cessna P/N C661003-0201
Gyroscopic Rate of Turn Indicator
Mfg Part No 1683
serial 702257 B wt 2# on bathroom scale
Date of Manufacture Jan 9 1968
rating 13.75 vdc .8 amps
conforms to faa tso c3a
mfd by
Brittain Industries inc
Torrance, Clif
calibrated for installation in vertical panel only.
appears complete, condition unknown
Hell the glass is good and all the old men aint dead yet.
Want it? send shipping address.

Tom Cahoon EAA 331289 was 54xx Chapter 81 Tucson, AZ
Did I meet you at Rockford in 1956?
A & P Northrop Aero Institute 1947
retired from everything except my computer.

http://www.copperstate.org/

http://www.phoenixregionalairport.com


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David Magaw

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Aug 13, 2002, 9:26:34 PM8/13/02
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Two or three usually come up on e-bay weekly. Prices tend to be about
$100.00. I have been trying to buy a Turn Coordinator to replace my slowing
T&B, but I just don't bid high enough--too cheap. Another alternative is
Kenny Faeth. But his prices are going up or my negotiating skills are going
down.

Dave

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