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Roar Meier

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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Does anyone now aboat the Molt Taylor`s paper and glass Micro-IMP

Matt Vogel

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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Roar,
Richard Steeves is the official distributor of the Mini-IMP plans, and I
assume he would have info about the Micro-IMP as well. He can be contacted
at:
rste...@facstaff.wisc.edu
6958 Applewood Dr.
Madison, WI, USA 53719
Tel.: (608)833-5586

There is also a bimonthly Mini-IMP newsletter available (US$15/year). For
more information about that, contact:
George Papich, Editor Mini-IMP Newsletter
c/o Franklin Optical
411-30th St., Oakland, CA, USA 94609

Also try this website:
http://www.tgka.com/lee/aircraft/miniimp.htm

Hope this helps.
Regards,
Matt
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Steven L Estergreen

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Aug 28, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/28/98
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In case you missed it, there was a post in r.a.h. the same day as yours,
saying Gary James of Weatherford, TX, will be offering Mini-IMP parts,
and possibly Micro-IMP as well. Contact him at (clipped from his post):

Curved Air Technologies GSJa...@CompuServe.com
Gary S. James GSJ...@ix.netcom.com
PO Box 1474
Weatherford, TX. 76086-1474 tel: (817) 596-3278
(800) 377-3618
Aircraft Design, Analysis and Consulting

Shawn Elliot Switenky

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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Roar Meier (roam...@online.no) wrote:
: Does anyone now aboat the Molt Taylor`s paper and glass Micro-IMP

I think I've seen what you're looking for. There was a article in a magazine
back in the early 80's (Homebuilt?) that had Molt talking about a smaller,
almost ultralight version of the mini-imp. The article talked more about
the construction method (cut cardboard in the shape of the structural member,
then use it to support a wet fiberglass layup.)

I have the magazine in my collection... I could look it up for you if that
is the one you are looking for.


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Dave Musgrave

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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>Roar Meier (roam...@online.no) wrote:
>: Does anyone now aboat the Molt Taylor`s paper and glass Micro-IMP
>

There's a pretty good writeup in Jack Lambie's book on Composite
Aircraft.

Neat idea, but doesn't really wash. The strength of composites is almost
totally from the fibers. The matrix material keeps the fibers in
place. So we want maximum fibers and minimum matrix material for the
strongest, lightest, (stiffest!) parts. Glass, carbon fiber, and exotics
like kevlar have the best strength/modulus to weight ratio. Glass has the
best strength to cost ratio, by far (of the composite fibers.)

You can build parts with adequate strength and stiffness using the paper
method, but they'll weigh way to much compared to the "traditional" aircraft
materials.

BTW, the best material from a strength-to-weight ratio, stiffness, and cost
standpoint is WOOD! Mother nature wins again! Easy to work with too. Sure
do like that Falco............

We now return you to the Zoom wars.

Dave


dave_501

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Aug 31, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/31/98
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I remember this one - from way back in the early 80's if I'm right.

My understanding was that the paper was used as an easy to work with
form material; after the paper was in shape, you simply glassed over it.
Thus, the paper didn't have any real structural purpose, just something
to hold the fiberglass in the right shape while it dried.

If, however, he actually used the paper as the fiber material, then I'm
both mistaken and surprised, because I'd agree that it ain't really
strong as noted below.

Dave Musgrave wrote:
>
> >Roar Meier (roam...@online.no) wrote:
> >: Does anyone now aboat the Molt Taylor`s paper and glass Micro-IMP
> >
>
> There's a pretty good writeup in Jack Lambie's book on Composite
> Aircraft.
>
> Neat idea, but doesn't really wash. The strength of composites is almost
> totally from the fibers. The matrix material keeps the fibers in
> place. So we want maximum fibers and minimum matrix material for the
> strongest, lightest, (stiffest!) parts. Glass, carbon fiber, and exotics
> like kevlar have the best strength/modulus to weight ratio. Glass has the
> best strength to cost ratio, by far (of the composite fibers.)
>
>
>

> Dave

Johnny

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Sep 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/2/98
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All it does is give you a surface shape to hang a regular layup onto.
It's not supposed to take the place of the glass. It's supposed to take
the place of the mold.

-j-

Dave Musgrave wrote:
>
> >Roar Meier (roam...@online.no) wrote:
> >: Does anyone now aboat the Molt Taylor`s paper and glass Micro-IMP
> >
>
> There's a pretty good writeup in Jack Lambie's book on Composite
> Aircraft.
>
> Neat idea, but doesn't really wash. The strength of composites is almost
> totally from the fibers. The matrix material keeps the fibers in
> place. So we want maximum fibers and minimum matrix material for the
> strongest, lightest, (stiffest!) parts. Glass, carbon fiber, and exotics
> like kevlar have the best strength/modulus to weight ratio. Glass has the
> best strength to cost ratio, by far (of the composite fibers.)
>

Dave Musgrave

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Sep 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM9/3/98
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Johnny wrote in message <35ED7F3E...@northwest-aero.com>...

>All it does is give you a surface shape to hang a regular layup onto.
>It's not supposed to take the place of the glass. It's supposed to take
>the place of the mold.


Yep, I went back and re-read the article in Lambie's book, and sure
enough, it's the "TPG" method, for "Taylor Paper GLASS". Takes
lightweight cardboard, and laminates fiberglass on one or both sides to
create a plywood-type material. Then cut out the parts and glue together
with more glass and resin. Pretty neat way to quickly make
some complex parts. Maybe a little heavier than foam cores, but a
whole bunch cheaper too. Might be a clever way to make molds for
lighter construction too.

Anyhoo, I stand corrected.

Dave

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