EAA Biplane
Ed
Anyone have figures or a guess on the +G design load limit for the EAA
biplane?
Stumbled across a nice little one for a great price. Is it suitable for
Sunday afternoon looping, and is it capable of completing the Sportsman
known with 85hp?
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Kurt Haukohl
Anything is possible of course but completion of a
sportsman sequence with
this engine / airplane is questionable if your flying
within box limits.
(3500-1500) While it is conceivable you can make it, I
doubt the
presentation would be competitive to the typical US
judges panel. My guess
is the price is right because of this motor. If you
thinking about
competition seriously try to give yourself a better
start.
There was a nice set of specs in the front of older
www.aircraft-spruce.com
catalogs. Those specs will not apply to this
airplane. The target motor
was at least the O-290. Most of the EAA biplanes we
have seen have the
O-360 and hopefully an IO-360 installed and these are
what most would
describe as "almost pretty good" in intermediate.
Good luck in your search. I do recommend paying a
couple more bucks at the
outset if your interested in competition so you can be
competitive. How
about an S1S ?
Ed
My situation is a bit odd: I'm in the service, and will be moving to
Germany next summer for a few years. So, whatever plane I buy, I'll
probably have to sell in 9 months. In the meantime, I'd like to build some
tailwheel and aerobatic time so I can compete when I return.
I'm looking very hard at an S-1C at my home airfield, also at a great price
and in great shape. Problem is, the upfront costs are more than I'm willing
to spend by myself, and I can't find a partner. Also, the insurance costs
are steep for someone of my low hours, and the insurance co. training
requirement (10 hours dual in an S-2) is fairly expensive too.
So I stumbled across this EAA biplane on the web. Sure, it's no performance
monster, but it's an awfully cheap way to build tailwheel time. No
additional training required, low insurance, etc. I recall reading that the
EAA Biplane was safe for aerobatics; if it is capable of a certain minimum
level, say the sportsman sequence without being "competitive", it would meet
my purposes.
Problem is, there isn't much info on the EAA biplane on the web. Seems to
be a defunct design, replaced by the Acrosport. If anyone out there has
personal experience in one, I'd like to hear about it.
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"Kurt Haukohl" <BlackE...@musclebiplane.org> wrote in message
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Kurt Haukohl
of ownership you should rent. Another large factor is that you
too, would not be able to re-sell this plane. You might get
stuck. But if for instance you got an S2A, S2B, or S2C
will at least have a reasonable resale market.
In this case you might be buying the "Edsel".
From experience too you will be board and frustrated in
10 hours or less.
Another idea might be to buy a large block from an owner or
set up a lease back arrangement. Your insurance goal is sound
and you should shoot for 50 hours minimum. More is better.
Most owners today would be very receptive to a pilot walking
up to them and saying, "...how bout I give you 5k-8k and you let
me fly your plane for 100 hours". Some schools would listen too.
The only thing you would be missing is the pride and responsibility
of ownership. The luxury of skipping the repairs, maintenance,
and fixed cost would be smart.
Ed
block of time, but so far he is still intending to sell outright.
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"Kurt Haukohl" <BlackE...@musclebiplane.org> wrote in message
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Kurt Haukohl
Just one other thing to remember that if your goal is
"insurance", a zillion hours of Decathlon time
will not get you Pitts / Eagle coverage and you will
still need the dual.
Peter Ashwood-Smith
>block of time, but so far he is still intending to sell outright.
He is probably worried that you will wreck the plane. You will
need to prove somehow that you can handle it before anybody will let
you rent a single seat Pitts and that means a checkout in a 2 seater
and more money.
What I would do is find a citabria / decathalon near by, or
if necessary drive/fly to where one is and build up your tail
dragger hours. These can be rented far more easily than a single
seat Pitts. Actually I've never seen anywhere a single hole
Pitts for rent and two seater rentals are mighty scarce too.
Cheers,
Peter Ashwood-Smith
Pitts S-1T C-GZRO
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B. Jensen
I used to own an EAA Biplane. IMO, it was very marginal for aerobatics.
Mine had a 125 hp engine, so I imagine a 85 hp is even worse. It was a fun
airplane, but in your situation, I feel you'd be better off renting a
Citabria or Decathlon.
If you just want tailwheel time, a Cub or Champ is a cheap way to go.
Bryan