Porsche Info Wanted......

[c882...@wombat.newcastle.edu.au]

hi , all

i would like to know how much a Porsche 928's 1985 model that
has done 70,000-90,000 miles and is
in good condition , sell for in the United States.
could somebody , please E-mail to me or post.

thanks
Bone' Petrovski
University of Newcastle , Australia.
c882...@wombat.newcastle.edu.au

[Chandra Bajpai]

I have noticed that 1984-1986 Maserati BiTurbos are only $5000-$8000. Low
Mileage. Why so cheap? It's a beautiful car, good performance.
I do know that this was Maserati's volume car (1000 units+/year).

Is this car reliable? (Are any Italian cars reliable?) Parts expensive?
Any knowledge about this car would be helpful.

Any Maserati owners care to elaborate?

I'm also looking at a 1986-88 Lotus Turbo Esprit. Any comments on this car?

Thanks,

Chandra Bajpai
top...@brandeis.cs.edu

[Philip Katz]

From article <1991Oct6...@wombat.newcastle.edu.au>, by
c882...@wombat.newcastle.edu.au:

> i would like to know how much a Porsche 928's 1985 model that
> has done 70,000-90,000 miles and is
> in good condition , sell for in the United States.
> could somebody , please E-mail to me or post.

Why don't you join the porschephiles mailing list ... there are lots
of knowledgeable Porsche people there who should be able to answer your
question. The address to subscribe is :

porschephi...@karazm.math.uh.edu

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[David Munroe]

Chandra Bajpai writes:

>I have noticed that 1984-1986 Maserati BiTurbos are only $5000-$8000. Low
>Mileage. Why so cheap?

I can't comment on reliability, but one owner told me that when work does need
to be done on it, it is expensive. One reason he gave me was that it's hard
to get access to the engine -- it involves a lot of labor. He considered a
$500 valve adjustment as "cheap".

>I'm also looking at a 1986-88 Lotus Turbo Esprit. Any comments on this car?

I have an '84 Turbo Esprit; it has the older body style (more angular and
rakish) and it's got carbs. Fuel injection was introduced on the 1987 models;
I happen to the like the carbs because they sound better :-) The newer body
styles are more rounded, if that's what you like. I've also driven an '88
model (it's got an intercooler & 260 bhp). With both cars you don't get much
boost below 3500 rpm, so it's not much of a thrill to drive in city traffic;
long winding country roads is where you'll have the most fun.

Lotus quality has been getting better; generally the later the car, the better
the quality. More important than mileage, look for a one-owner car where the
owner has taken care of it. See if there's a Lotus or British Car club in
your area.

-Dave

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[Mike Coonrod]

I owned a 1986 Maserati Bi-turbo and have the following comments:

1. The once a year tune up costs $1500.00(read that fifteen hundred dollars).

2. The Turbochargers wear out right at 60k mi and cost $4000.00 to replace.

3. The paint is bad on these cars and most have been repainted.

4. The seats are half plastic and its cheap, thin plastic.

5. When you go to sell it you cant give one of these cars away.

6. I dented the right fender in mine and the repairs cost $7400.00.

7. I waited for three months for the parts to come from Italy.

I put an add in the paper to sell my car and after several weeks I got 2 calls.
One was from a Bi-Turbo owner. The other guy bought my car because he was a
jet aircraft mechanic and was going to do his own tuneups. Dont buy this car.

[Mike Seningen]

In article <665...@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com> mcoo...@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Mike Coonrod) writes:
>I owned a 1986 Maserati Bi-turbo and have the following comments:
>
>1. The once a year tune up costs $1500.00(read that fifteen hundred dollars).
>

Valve adjustment which take @40 hours in the shop to do.

>2. The Turbochargers wear out right at 60k mi and cost $4000.00 to replace.
>

They can be had from MIE (Maserati Information Exchange) for about $750 each,
they are relatively easy to replace 6-8 labor.

>3. The paint is bad on these cars and most have been repainted.
>

agreed, they did not have a clear coat.

>4. The seats are half plastic and its cheap, thin plastic.

Not sure what he means here, mine are great looking and supportive Leather
seats

>
>5. When you go to sell it you cant give one of these cars away.

Proving to be true -- Mine is for sale and have had very little interest

>
>6. I dented the right fender in mine and the repairs cost $7400.00.

call 911 I think you got robbed

>
>7. I waited for three months for the parts to come from Italy.

Lots of places to get parts in the states

>
>
>I put an add in the paper to sell my car and after several weeks I got 2 calls.
>One was from a Bi-Turbo owner. The other guy bought my car because he was a
>jet aircraft mechanic and was going to do his own tuneups. Dont buy this car.

Depends on the car and condition, I guess.

cheers,

mike seningen

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[Al Bowers]

In article <665...@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com> mcoo...@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Mike Coonrod) writes:

>I owned a 1986 Maserati Bi-turbo and have the following comments:

[list of complaints deleted]

>Dont buy this car.

Let's see. A new Ferrari Daytona cost between $20,000 and $24,000
while they were still being produced. By 1976 these cars were only
worth about $6,000 to $8,000. They were real dogs to maintain and an
engine rebuild would exceed the cost of the car by a factor of 2.
Jump forward to 1990, with its depressed ecomonmy and all. Daytonas
in any sort of running condition are now in the $250,000 range, if its
a clean one its worth quite a bit more, or a Spyder and you've got a
1.3 million dollar car.

Too bad for those guys with blown engines in 1976 who slapped in mouse
motor Chevy's. Those cars (without their original motors) are worth
only $100,000 or so.

The car of the early '80s was the Maserati Ghibli, again good clean
ones are hovering in the $100,000 area, Spyders are about $300,000
currently.

The Biturbo is a Maserati. It is meant to be an _exotic_ car. It was
not rpiced like one, so many folks who had only had BMWs or Hanodas
before didn't take proper care of the car. True there were some folks
who had blown engines who didn't deserve it, but that was true of
Daytonas and Ghiblis as well.

If you know what to expect, you won't be dissappointed with the
Biturbo. But if you expected a Honda Accord type appliance, forget
it.

Sorry this was so late, but I'd been away a while.

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[Gaylord]

Can any one post a contact for some lotus clubs? Especially any located in the
east (NY preferably) Thanks much
- Mark

[Dave Munroe]

In article <1991Oct18.1...@rodan.acs.syr.edu> mgay...@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gaylord) writes:

>Can any one post a contact for some lotus clubs? Especially any located in the
>east (NY preferably) Thanks much

I don't know of any in NY, but I do know of:

New England Lotus Lovers Inc.
38 Charlton Rd.
Dudley, MA 01570
Info: Juliet Perdichizzi (617) 272-5942
Publication: Monthly Newsletter

Lotus Limited
PO BOX L
College Park, MD 20740
Info: Mark Winston (301) 441-1955
Publication: Lotus ReMarque

(this info is from the 1990 Lotus Convention publication)

-Dave