Hyndai Excel
Snake-Eyes
I am thinking about purchasing an '88 Hyndai excel. can anyone who owns one
tell me what they think about it...thanks
-Joel
SEGAL, DAVID JAY
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{I am thinking about purchasing an '88 Hyndai excel. can anyone who owns one
{-Joel
Well, I don't own an '88, but I just bought an '89, and actually I was
scanning the news to see if anyone else had anything to say about them.
I love it. The Consumer Reports Guide to Used Cars rates it very
highly, about the same or maybe slightly less overall than a Honda
Civic of that year, but you can't touch a same year Honda for the
price of a Hyundai. The phrase which sticks in my mind the best from
Consumer Reports was "Sirloin features at hamberger prices."
Stay away from the automatic transmission; it accelerates sluggishly
and shifts abruptly. The basic 3dr hatchback of '88 shouldn't sell
for more than about $2600. Mind you, the "low-book" loan value of
the car will probably be much (like $1000) less than that.
Otherwise, they are great on gas, cheap to buy, and cheap to insure.
Good luck!
- Dave Segal (dave....@m.cc.utah.edu)
Paul Simundza
In a previous article, djs...@cc.utah.edu (SEGAL, DAVID JAY) says:
>In article <Bu4tH...@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v069...@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snake-Eyes) writes...
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>{I am thinking about purchasing an '88 Hyndai excel. can anyone who owns one
>{tell me what they think about it...thanks
>{-Joel
>
one of my friends has an 88' Excel, I think it is a pretty nice car, if you
could get it for a good price..his is a 4 speed....
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John F Nielsen
>In article <Bu4tH...@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v069...@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snake-Eyes) writes...
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>{I am thinking about purchasing an '88 Hyndai excel. can anyone who owns one
>{tell me what they think about it...thanks
>{-Joel
>
>
>Well, I don't own an '88, but I just bought an '89, and actually I was
>scanning the news to see if anyone else had anything to say about them.
>I love it. The Consumer Reports Guide to Used Cars rates it very
>highly, about the same or maybe slightly less overall than a Honda
>Civic of that year, but you can't touch a same year Honda for the
>price of a Hyundai. The phrase which sticks in my mind the best from
>Consumer Reports was "Sirloin features at hamberger prices."
Are you sure you are talking about the Hyundai Exel, maybe you are
thinking about the Sonata. The phrase that sticks to mind for me is
something along the lines, "The car is cheap, and driving it you know
it".
In THEIR opinion the car is unreliable and in general much less
qualityhan a Honda Civic. Are you sure you read Consumer Reports????
john
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SEGAL, DAVID JAY
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{>In article <Bu4tH...@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v069...@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snake-Eyes) writes...
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{>{I am thinking about purchasing an '88 Hyndai excel. can anyone who owns one
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{>Well, I don't own an '88, but I just bought an '89, and actually I was
{>scanning the news to see if anyone else had anything to say about them.
{>I love it. The Consumer Reports Guide to Used Cars rates it very
{>highly, about the same or maybe slightly less overall than a Honda
{>Civic of that year, but you can't touch a same year Honda for the
{>price of a Hyundai. The phrase which sticks in my mind the best from
{>Consumer Reports was "Sirloin features at hamberger prices."
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{thinking about the Sonata. The phrase that sticks to mind for me is
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{john
Actually, I read that phrase too, but it was for the Yugo. Perhaps you
should check to see that the pages in your "Consumer Reports" book doesn't
jump from "H" to "Y". I don't have the book in front of me or else I
could quote you more. In some catagories, the Excel of that year was rated
higher than the Civic, but overall Honda came out ahead.
But just in case these hearsay arguments are unconvincing, I should point
out that the Excel was either the third or fifth largest selling import
in that class in the late 80s. Now it's not a Rolls Royce I'll grant you,
bet generally an "unreliable" car doesn't do so well in sales.
- Dave Segal
PS: If it makes you feel better, I can find the book again and cite it.
Joseph_So
After I moved to Edmonton (with the car) a year later, the engine
lost a lot of power and it turns out to be 4 blown values. The car
never started too well in Edmonton (it was OK in Atlanta) probably
because of altitude. That X'mas, when I got back from Toronto the
battery was frozen solid. Well, the battery which comes with the
car is not large enough for Edmonton winters. In fact, a friend of
mine in Toronto also had to change the battery in his 89 Excel
recently. I had a few more problems with the car like: the
speedometer wire frozen solid, leaky radiater hose,
heater knob broke and costed $100 to replace (the guy from a local
dealer cut the cable to the antenna by mistake while relacing
the heater panel), catalytic converter completely stucked up: $600,
fuel pump need replace etc. None of these things was under warranty
except for the value change (extended warranty). Another friend
of mine also has a 89 Excel and complains about the heater not
adequate for -20 C (side windows all frozen up).
It seems to me that the Excel (all years) was on the used car
to avoid list in the 91 Consumer Report buying's guide. But
I don't have the book with me right now.
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Joseph So
Mathematics, U of Alberta, Edmonton
jos...@hyper.math.ualberta.ca
John F Nielsen
>In article <1992Sep14.1...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jnie...@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes...
>{In article <11SEP199...@cc.utah.edu> djs...@cc.utah.edu (SEGAL, DAVID JAY) writes:
>{>In article <Bu4tH...@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v069...@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snake-Eyes) writes...
>{Are you sure you are talking about the Hyundai Exel, maybe you are
>{thinking about the Sonata. The phrase that sticks to mind for me is
>{something along the lines, "The car is cheap, and driving it you know
>{it".
>{
>{In THEIR opinion the car is unreliable and in general much less
>{qualityhan a Honda Civic. Are you sure you read Consumer Reports????
>{
>out that the Excel was either the third or fifth largest selling import
>in that class in the late 80s. Now it's not a Rolls Royce I'll grant you,
>bet generally an "unreliable" car doesn't do so well in sales.
Actually, I was talking about the magazine article from which they
had originally reviewed the car not the book which is a summary.
I'll go over to the library right now and look up BOTH to quote.
I remember this because my in laws recently were in the car market so
I looked at the Excel, since it was cheaper than the rest of the
competetion and may have some virtues..
Also, just because something is well selling it doesn't mean that it
is a good car. The Ford Escort wasd the #1 selling car for a while
and I'd say they were other comptewtive cars that were much better.
Also, a car will sell more just because it is cheap and more
people can afford it in general. A Mercedes is not a high volume
car, but it is a good quality car.
And another note, Hyundai sales are down 50% compared to last year.
They are having a tough time keeping their market share.
John F Nielsen
>should check to see that the pages in your "Consumer Reports" book doesn't
>jump from "H" to "Y". I don't have the book in front of me or else I
>could quote you more. In some catagories, the Excel of that year was rated
>higher than the Civic, but overall Honda came out ahead.
>But just in case these hearsay arguments are unconvincing, I should point
>out that the Excel was either the third or fifth largest selling import
>in that class in the late 80s. Now it's not a Rolls Royce I'll grant you,
>bet generally an "unreliable" car doesn't do so well in sales.
Just got back from the library, here is what I found:
May 1990 CU, pg. 365
"If you drive this car without knowing how inexpensive it is, you'd
still say it was cheap." <-- that was the quote I was refering to.
More quotes:
"The Excel is still years behind the state of the art for small cars.
Ride and acceleration needs to improve , as does bumper protection.
Reliability remains a far cry from that of the best Japanese."
In case you think they changed their minds recently:
1992 CU buying guide:
"Hyundai technology is still lagging and reliability is still a
problem." Looking at the trouble index -- it gets a nice big black
mark(worst possible).
Now, go ahead find those quotes, I am *really* interested in reading
them. Are you still sure you read the correct car?
Also, check to make sure you had in fact read Consumer Reports, there
are other companies that do ratings, but none of them have the same
non-attribution policy CU has.
Oh and in case you still think I read about the Yugo, from the 1988
issue of CU this is what they said:
"The Yugo is the cheapest car on the market. Unfortunately, it is one
of the worst cars CU has ever tested."
And, for those of you who seem to think CU downplays the value of
German cars browsing through the magazines, they seemed to like them
a lot(BWM 535i had impressive handeling and braking, and in general
was a good a car as a Lexus with different virtues.)
Snake-Eyes
>
>It seems to me that the Excel (all years) was on the used car
>to avoid list in the 91 Consumer Report buying's guide. But
>I don't have the book with me right now.
I looked at the 1990 consuper reports list of used cars to avoid and saw the
excel, although the honda civic was not there...
-joel